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[Sakura Hana]

how is drew town again? I don't remember u stating why u townread him

I mentioned earlier I thought his questioning me was in good faith and willing to reconsider after said questions.

[Firebringer]

real talk, fredrick u might never want to be in a life or death situation because it sounds like u would freeze and be unable to react. Which usually isn't good.

[Sakura Hana]

The one time I considered voting him was before I noticed that and also partially OMGUS.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Super Town:

Firebringer
Mohab500

Towny:

Fredrick A Campbell
Drew-Sta
Quick
CooLDoG
popopopopopopo
NorwegianboyEE
NoPowerOverMe

Leftovers:

Farkran
Persivul
Porkens

You know, it's kinda funny how everything falls into place.
VOTE: Farkran

How can you even be this certain about Firebringer and Mohab500?

[Firebringer]

how is drew town again? I don't remember u stating why u townread him

I mentioned earlier I thought his questioning me was in good faith and willing to reconsider after said questions.

really...i should read ur two interactions. He seemed like he was just here to defend his positions at all costs and he seemed to form theories and then back them up later instead of re-access them.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

real talk, fredrick u might never want to be in a life or death situation because it sounds like u would freeze and be unable to react. Which usually isn't good.

At the end of one's life is death. Not too much of a problem to me.

[Sakura Hana]

How can you even be this certain about Firebringer and Mohab500?

I've mentioning my reasoning for both previously already.
I felt FB's read progression on me matched his play and it makes sense from a town FB.
I felt Mohad's confused post felt like a lost townie (well probably not exactly with those words, but you can see the respective post).

No one else has done anything i dont consider fakeable but their posting seems town motivated (Towny tier).

[Fredrick A Campbell]

What you read as town I read as null because I could imagine scum doing these exact things.

[Sakura Hana]

What you read as town I read as null because I could imagine scum doing these exact things.

I've yet to see a post like what Mohad did made by scum, much less with such emotion, I know scum COULD do those things, but is that what's happening here? In theory a perfect scum player is capable of faking anything, I can tell that at the very least the emotion isnt faked, and considering Mohab's drop in activity and then his complaints about how confusing the game seems looks more like a towny that's struggling to scumhunt than scum that's trying to pretend being confused. Probably because i've had moments like those way back when i was a beginner I can imagine how Mohab's confusion came to be.

As for Firebringer is more of the fact that we know each other well, and while i usually have a hard time getting a definite read on FB, he's perfectly capable of abusing my weaknesses in order to pocket me, if he was scum, he'd have resorted to that much sooner than when he did.

[Quick]

real talk, fredrick u might never want to be in a life or death situation because it sounds like u would freeze and be unable to react. Which usually isn't good.

At the end of one's life is death. Not too much of a problem to me.

That will change when you are 80 yo...

[CooLDoG]

I am honestly starting to get really lost, any idea which page I should start from to catch up to the current wagons?

Just scroll and look for the vote tags. Also, ISO homie.

Sakura - strong metaread

Be careful, the

boomers

or whatever firebringer's been calling them are gonna come eat you alive xD
Now on a more serious note imma check what you mean about Quick.

GD boomer =/= mafia boomer.

I just read the last 8 or so pages and my brain completely died. So can someone actually summarize the whole Drew-Sta VS Norwegian or Sakura or CoolDoG or whatever is going on here? What's with the wagon on Porkens, can I find actual reasons here?

read my 730 and my 731 to correct for my reading disability (as fire might call it if he were itching for a ban)

Porkens - this wagon had no reason to exist except pressure and i think the verdict is town

What?

What is your read on prokins.

He thinks, therefore he exists.

Descartes, Meditations, I think second meditation. Maybe the first.

You're all fucking weird.

confirmed.

i was planning on night killing quick so sure

Fire has basically cliamed vig at this point. Multiple times he has said shit like this. Fucking clown.

VOTE: Drew-sta
Does anyone townread him?

I do not.

Quick's 979 979. Agree. Don't like drew there. Vote from quick is natural. Farken's vote doesn't strike me as odd either.

You kept using the word "chainsaw" like it would absolve you from any responsibility. But your main argument against me didn't even make sense. Yet you kept pushing. Just makes me believe your entire case was made in bad faith and you never intended to solve or attempt to do anything other than scumread me.

agree. Weak ass vote.

I'm tempted to vote Porkens just to form 2 dueling wagons, but I wanna vote drew more and that's mainly coz i dont TR him and he SRs me and seems to not understand anything of what im doing at all.

fince sitting scum, lynch whoever mentality.

1007 Not convinced by popopopo's meta vote.

Actually?

VOTE: Farkran

very quick unvote by quick after people expressed reservations.

I am against drew claiming.

he should claim at l-1 like he said, agree.

I like you too hug.

why over dre-sta? I mean, farkin has reads...

[CooLDoG]

can i please just have one morsel of read sir

BUT HE DID HAVE A READ THOUGH. NOW HE AIN'T TELLING US

Fred do u have conflicting thoughts on any players that make it hard to form reads....I have a hard time with this "I have 0 reads". Is there some posts that make u go town and others that go scum so ur not ready to make decisions. What is it?

It is exactly that.

I scum-read Quick in the first days then I see some posts other players make that present and argument suggesting Quick might be town, leaving me uncertain now.
I scum-read you, Sakura Hana, NorwegianboyEE, Mohab500, and NoPowerOverMe simply because you were just doing strange things and spamming the thread. But I also considered that the motivation may not be malicious and again, I am undecided.
CooLDoG and Drew-Sta, I truly never had a read on.
Mohab500, I mentioned earlier, but it was really their readlist that made me reconsider that scum-read.

I could give more details about the history of my fluctuating reads on the other players if you think that helps. I decided not to mention it because I thought it would have added nothing to the game.

AND NOW HE HAS A SHIT TON? WHat?
Yeah, vote stays.

Ok that's much better than just "I have no reads"

yeah, which now makes the point even more.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I thought I didn't.

[Sakura Hana]

Honestly tho, in future games i might take a hint from CD and avoid mentioning my townreads and see how that works out.

[CooLDoG]

Farkran - I'm L-2. Why should I claim?

u shouldn't.

does anybody else want to join me on porkens here?

Why is porkins scum, please tell me

[Sakura Hana]

Seems like something interesting to try out.

[CooLDoG]

You're wrong on porkens

Why is porkins town?

[CooLDoG]

Honestly tho, in future games i might take a hint from CD and avoid mentioning my townreads and see how that works out.

Don't no body tell me I ain't scum hunting ITT.

Also caught up for the night. Will try to check more during the day tomorrow.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

like go through porkens posts on sakura early. He pushes sakura on a few things. It wasn't "ohh i scumread u" but it was enough to warrant like "i am worried about what u are doing". Then when sakura gets defensive he goes "Ohhh I am not even scumreading u though". When it is painfully obvious he is suspicious at least from his posts. Then eventually it just goes to townread. Its like bad.

I read his ISO and I see what you mean now.

[CooLDoG]

I'll be online in exactly 1 hour (0545 GMT) for questioning.

real talk, fredrick u might never want to be in a life or death situation because it sounds like u would freeze and be unable to react. Which usually isn't good.

I also agree with this. Bad reaction is bad.

[CooLDoG]

like go through porkens posts on sakura early. He pushes sakura on a few things. It wasn't "ohh i scumread u" but it was enough to warrant like "i am worried about what u are doing". Then when sakura gets defensive he goes "Ohhh I am not even scumreading u though". When it is painfully obvious he is suspicious at least from his posts. Then eventually it just goes to townread. Its like bad.

I read his ISO and I see what you mean now.

I take back my question to fire. I missed this.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I'll be online in exactly 1 hour (0545 GMT) for questioning.

real talk, fredrick u might never want to be in a life or death situation because it sounds like u would freeze and be unable to react. Which usually isn't good.

I also agree with this. Bad reaction is bad.

I also agree with you. The important part is do you think a player with bad reaction is town or scum?

[Quick]

I'll be online in exactly 1 hour (0545 GMT) for questioning.

real talk, fredrick u might never want to be in a life or death situation because it sounds like u would freeze and be unable to react. Which usually isn't good.

I also agree with this. Bad reaction is bad.

I also agree with you. The important part is do you think a player with bad reaction is town or scum?

Let's lynch FB and find out. I can clear like 4 people based on him flipping Scum. It's a good trade if I don't say so myself.

[CooLDoG]

I'll be online in exactly 1 hour (0545 GMT) for questioning.

scum, obviously. I wouldn't be voting you if I thought you are town. That would make no sense.

[CooLDoG]

@quick, who can you clear, now and why? What the hell dude? That's coming out of nowhere.