In post 796, Tuxedo Mask wrote: In post 114, feathers wrote:Wow, okay, not lurking. This feels like the landmines I was talking about, I was just putting out guesses. I voted you earlier because you asked me what pbf meant, it's a silly reason since someone explained rvs voting is usually non serious at first. I stuck with it because you're on my sus list, and I heard mafia are more likely to switch votes easily so I didn't want to be seen that way. Seems like in this game people get suspected either way though..
This feels very genuine newbie town. To me, newbie towns seem petrified of two things, being wrong and being lynched. So the fact they are so open about their fear of doing something wrong with their guesses reads genuine to me.
In post 102, gibus wrote: In post 82, feathers wrote:So unless someone gets lynched Day 1, we’d have to wait 10 whole irl days for Day 1 to end? That sounds.. bad for town honestly. Stirs up unnecessary arguments and wagons, probably mislynch someone in the end instead of waiting the time out.
I kind of agree, but I don't have a clear idea. Can someone tell me how D1 lynch is not a purely probabilistic kill?
What qualities can you find in someone's posts that give them a TR? And why can't a good mafia player not replicate said qualities?
If townreads are necessary to find connections between people if they flip scum, how can it not be a case of WIFOM? If it is, won't a lynch always be a purely probabilistic kill?
I don't know if there is a separate thread for this post, so I'm posting it here.
The bolded feels awkward, like going out of their to show they don't know about scum PT.
Didn't like what Gibus was doing here, but that's well-trodded ground. This is not a method for ending RVS.
In post 53, Freddiethelady wrote: In post 12, iamironcat wrote:Hola, also had some mafia history in other places. Have never played a mafia game which lasted this long tho. I don't get the vote for Votato so
VOTE: gibus
In post 45, iamironcat wrote: In post 20, votato wrote:this is known as the RVS, or Random Vote Stage, where people vote for silly reasons to get the game started, and then we gradually progress to more serious posting as we get a few bandwagons going.
Fine,
VOTE: votato
you shouldn't flipflop like that makes you look flaky
VOTE: imironcat
This is pretty misrepresentative. Very clearly they aren't flip-flopping but had a misunderstanding, and corrected themselves when it was explained.
In post 148, iamironcat wrote:It's funny how freddie is saying that filiiping is a mafia move - like that's the last thing they would do.
That being said, if I get killed tonight, investigate Lilith. I have a FOS on them.
It might be possible they would put the blame on Freddie.
The assumption they would NK'd is strange, and ir pinged me as LAMIST.
In post 227, gibus wrote:Regardless of experience, I find ironcat's interest in finding scum in contrast to your disinterest (
#223). You've provided nothing useful to town in your ISO other than a three player scumread (
#212) with no stance on it immediately after criticising my three player scumread.
VOTE: Formerfish
I don't agree with this vote. I'm unsure how FF had not demonstrated scumhunting here.
In post 332, gibus wrote: In post 329, feathers wrote:
I mean I really hope you're a townsperson, and I'm sorry for voting you for so long if you are, but I just want to be sure.
Why are you sorry?!
I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia kept you till LyLo because of your trust.
This is either very astute and forward-thinking or a slip from ideas in scum thread. I know that's not super helpful, but I keep fliping on what way I feel about it.
In post 415, iamironcat wrote:Hola TOWN FOLKS! o/
Who's the biggest suspect if copykat flips out town?
If they're indeed mafia, who would you suspect next?
This seems like a really strange question at the time it was asked, super unprovoked. Something can certainly wait till day 2.
In post 552, Freddiethelady wrote:fish, i had no read on you other than noting how explosive you were. i subconsciously decided i would trying to avoid saying something that might get that reaction out of you because the noise is useless. i joined the game for fun, but your posts and your arrogance makes me wonder if you did the same. i am not sure how to read you and further at the moment - so at the very least its distracting and frustrating to have to read through it.
This reads really scummy to me. FF is definitely the type of player scum would like to avoid, and then to just attack their playstyle as well seems to discredit them more than anything. I really don't like it.
In post 528, iamironcat wrote:Anyhow, this analysis got me sure of my scum reads. Lilith and Fish.
Lilith cheaply jumps on any "leads" she can find. Such as the copykat slip and how I'm "bussing" fishyfriend. It's clear that her playstyle is scum.
Fish has shown themselves as town but thanks Lilith, it's clear that their interaction shows he's in her chat as well.
That being said, copy kat is town and so are the rest apart from these two that I've mentioned.
Too bad I can't question them but, what Lilith is listed as doing is called scum hunting. This accusation seems super basless. I don't know what the thing about Fish means, and the certainness in my slot being town with no explanation seems really sus.
In post 727, Nauci wrote:Okay now that's a level of rudeness which is both totally unwarranted and completely inappropriate for thew Newbie Games section. Inb4 the entire game derails over this kind of thing or we get 4 replacements. The irony of someone saying J"flooding the thread with your vitriol" or "Why the fuck do i want to talk to you if this is how you react to a miscommunication." after accusing them of cunting up a thread is
If you're worried about stuff like this derailing the game why bring it up again? Like lilith didn't seem to pay it any mind and ended things nicely. Then to just drag it up all these pages later seems off. I don't trust the intention behind this.
Overall reads:
Town
Formerfish:Asking questions, advancing the game, and trying to solve. Say what you will about their playstyle, they have made genuine attempts throughout to make things more accommodating and palatable to town. In a few games when a player comes in with a polarizing playstyle, scum seem to be those who harp on it most.
Lilith: They also seems really focused on solving, and their thought process is easy to follow. Very open to the town and trying to progress the game. They seemed to have dropped off the map though.
Votato: Had a strong read at the start, but she's fallen off. She keeps saying she wants more information from my slot, but she's still slaked in other areas of the game. Hopefully, this can help push them forward. (in the first draft of this I kept calling you they, sorry. And Sorry if I slip up and don't catch it.)
Outside Town
Feahters/[line]The Nazi[/line]Nausi: Feathers was painted head to toe in the town colors, and had them as a solid read throughout the game. Nausi has diminished it slightly with moves I don't agree with.
Gibus: Gibus had a scummy start to the day, with the masons and the spam voting. All really derailed and added chaos to the game. Over the course of the day, their posting has improved, and I've gotten some good town pings from them. However, tinfoil hatty, that progression doesn't always feel super genuine and get paranoia they're just being heavily coached in scum PT.
Somewhere Else
IamIronCat/Osuka: Ironcat was a weird slot, scum read them pretty heavily, but Osuka hasn't done anything objectionable. And since I can't question Ironcat about their posts, I'm okay waiting on this one to get more content from. Besides I have better reads for now...
Scum Bums
Brass/Waversac: Started off okay then completely fell off and then seemed pretty frustrated at being questioned. Any number of things could explain it, but them sitting on my slot from daybreak tonight doesn't sit well with me. Neither does their response to Former Fish. The replacement hasn't done anything, hoping to hear from them soon.
Freddiethelady: Has just been active lurking this entire game, letting town just steer itself around and get tied in knots. Something is keeping this slot from playing, and I have a feeling it's because they're scum that doesn't know what to do.
I'd vote Freddie here, but I have a poor grasp of where the vote count is at.
@Gibus and Osuka: I know Gibus said they put me at L-2, but by my count it was L-1. I do agree that progressing the votes on my slot to either of those is very different levels of pressure.
