Newbie 2007: Air [game over!]

[LuckyLuciano]

For the record, I updated my reads as I went along. [...] indicates that what was written before and after it was written at different points in my catch-up.

[LuckyLuciano]

VOTE: George. Come play with us George. Come exist. Thank you.

[Quick]

Thanks for not reading my posts. If you're not reading QQ's as well, I take that as a compliment.

[LuckyLuciano]

What are your thoughts on George?

[LuckyLuciano]

Also, do you have thoughts about any of the conclusions I reached in my readslist?

[LuckyLuciano]

Luciano we left RVS like 400 posts ago

Okay then. I'll give my initial reads.

GeorgeBailey
Marashu
Quick
QuantumQuasar
Poyzin
72offsuit

teacher
NotAJumbleOfNumbers

Ngl, random.org failed me pretty fucking hard. I have never been so disappointed in a computer program.

[Quick]

@LL, I've determined that your vocabulary is very mediocre to low.

[Quick]

What are your thoughts on George?

One of 72 and GB is Scum, but not both.

[LuckyLuciano]

Why can't they both be scum?

What about their interactions is specifically TvS?

Would you be okay with a {72o, Marashu} scumteam? How about {George, Marashu}?

[Quick]

Why can't they both be scum?

What about their interactions is specifically TvS?

Would you be okay with a {72o, Marashu} scumteam? How about {George, Marashu}?

Marashu can be Scum with anyone *shurg*

[LuckyLuciano]

Can you answer the first two questions?

Why can't {72o, George} be the solve?

What about 72o v George indicates that one must be scum?

[Quick]

Can you answer the first two questions?

Why can't {72o, George} be the solve?

What about 72o v George indicates that one must be scum?

Because they have more Non-Associatives between them then any other two people in the game IIRC. Let me check that for sure...

Okay, not really because there are also 3 between NAJM/Poyzin. You COULD make the argument that this just means there is Scum in NAJM/Poyzin + GB/72, but I digress. GB doesn't really have much saving them besides their Non-Associatives with 72. Poyzin is still my preferred lynch because if they flip read they clear NAJM and to a lesser extent, teacher. 72 is a higher info lynch given their red flip clears GB and NAJM to higher degrees, but based on play I have a stronger SR on Poyzin.

GB red flip only clears 72 so that is pretty low info lynch there. That said, on a BG green flip, 72 looks worse for wear, but not to actual damning levels I would say, but this is not true for the reverse.

[LuckyLuciano]

You seem to value associatives very highly. I usually try to limit my use of associatives prior to having flips. Can you help me see where you are at when you put associatives aside? Aside from Poyzin, what is your strongest non-associative read?

[Quick]

@72offsuit, join me to put Jumble at L-1

Just quoting this as a point of reference that it could very well be that 72/Poyzin felt threatened by NAJM for opposing them - both of them as NAJM has multiple Non-Associatives with BOTH and no one else.

[LuckyLuciano]

Don't you think that the read you are making here is reliant both on a {Poyzin, 72o} scumteam valuing associatives to a degree similar to how you do,

and

on them interpreting those associatives exactly as you do?

[Quick]

You seem to value associatives very highly. I usually try to limit my use of associatives prior to having flips. Can you help me see where you are at when you put associatives aside? Aside from Poyzin, what is your strongest non-associative read?

How exactly do I put them aside?

teacher looks to be pretty damn Town outside of Non-Associatives and based solely on play, but he's also pretty damn Town for having the spread of Non-Associatives that he has. That said, I am only calculating notes from page 17 and prior.

[Quick]

Don't you think that the read you are making here is reliant both on a {Poyzin, 72o} scumteam valuing associatives to a degree similar to how you do,

and

on them interpreting those associatives exactly as you do?

No.

[Quick]

It probably says more about NAJM being right than those other two feeling threatened actually.

[LuckyLuciano]

If NAJM, Teacher, and Poyzin are all town, and the mod confirmed this to you, where do you go next?

[Quick]

You COULD make the argument that this just means there is Scum in NAJM/Poyzin + GB/72, but I digress.

So just based off this, GB can only be scum with NAJM since NAJM can't be Scum with 72.

[Quick]

If NAJM, Teacher, and Poyzin are all town, and the mod confirmed this to you, where do you go next?

What exactly is the point of this question?

[LuckyLuciano]

You and I disagree on some of our reads. I still think your opinion is valuable even if I think your method is flawed. I'm asking you to accept some of my assumptions and go from there. I'm not saying to dismiss your beliefs, I'm just trying to better understand your view of other players in a way that is more comprehensible to me.

[Quick]

You and I disagree on some of our reads. I still think your opinion is valuable even if I think your method is flawed. I'm asking you to accept some of my assumptions and go from there. I'm not saying to dismiss your beliefs, I'm just trying to better understand your view of other players in a way that is more comprehensible to me.

I've already concluded as much in what you can read what I have said. So it's a pointless question.

[LuckyLuciano]

I am telling you, explicitly, that this would be helpful to me. Could you just assume that I have some degree of competence and amuse me?

[Datisi]

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