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[farside22]

we should still reject the proposal

Hi scum Abr!
To bad its been approved.

Thanks for dropping the ball day 1.

[farside22]

The way ABR spent the early game hanging back and only got passionate about the quiz team bothered me. There is scum motivation in trying to get the team rejected.
I SR TSE because of his defensiveness, nonsensical pushes and his attempts to get people pushing him killed

You do realize that Abr asked mid not to pass to certain players, then doesn't get pissy at mid for defieying his request and when i called him out he called me scum.....or did you ignore all that for reasons??
And you know i don't expect vague. What post was defensive? What was nonsensical? What do you mean by get people pushing him?

[Pink Ball]

You see how now I'm becoming a viable option to be left behind during D1? I called this way back when I scumread Raya when everyone was townreading him. I'm happy with this gamestate 'cause I'm not really motivated, but my reads are clearly on point.

[Pink Ball]

SirCakez has been doing this "falling into the rabbit hole" thing about me very explicitly so everyone can see his progression on me so it makes sense, that's clearly scum motivated.

So I was right at the begining

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Post your lynch pool guys.

-Albert B Rampage
-TSE
-Starbuck

Ok.
So yeah, other then me all his scum Reads are “Safe” this round.
Figured that was the case.

Can you explain how they are safe?

Starbuck has been getting a mix of scum and town reads and ABR wasn't getting scumreads until recently if I recall correctly?

Safe as in, has the chain.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Raya I still highly advice you give the chain to TSE.
ala plan 897

I'm going to need some more convincing on this because right now I'd like to see TSE in the last 2.

Up to you really we have a lot of time to think it through and I have reads I need to figure out as well.
I personally just think his unwnd read comes from very frustrated town along with a lot of his other posts. But his ISO is much like mine becoming increasingly difficult to parse.

I'll read PB, unwnd and Sircakes in more depth so hopefully I can find some good reads elsewhere we can work with.

I want some time to consider this. I honestly trust your townread on him more than my scumread since I'm usually wrong D1 and you're basically conftown to me. If not I'm thinking I'll pass it to Sircakez since we have some similar reads. I definitely don't want Sircakez in the bottom 2.

Can you explain your SirCakez Town read to me?

These are just some quick bullet points I took. I can go into more depth tomorrow but I'm falling asleep

SirCakez:
-Overall I think his content is ok
-We have very similar reads which is a good sign
-Our top townread and top scumread are the same
-I think his reads make sense and I can see a town perspective
-He's also going against a lot of the main town reads which I wouldn't expect from scum

I don’t see the last part.
He Doesn’t scum read a highly Town read player.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Why not me? Why not Raya? Why not Dunn?

Why not unwnd? Why not ND? Why not midway?

You say a lot but you don't give your whys.

I've talked about you, and Raya and Dunn don't feel like they've earned any sort of TR for me.
I'm uncertain about most people this game tbf

That's cool

None of us are getting lynched today though

What do you think about Pink Ball, unwnd, and TSE?

TSE can go
PB doesn't feel at all like my previous town games with him but he says he's not playing as Silver Bullet so maybe that's why?
Unwnd I need to review

I suppose it’s more like they don’t directly think people earned a TR that others believe are earned.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

SirCakez has been doing this "falling into the rabbit hole" thing about me very explicitly so everyone can see his progression on me so it makes sense, that's clearly scum motivated.

So I was right at the begining

I thought you TR’ed SirCakez

[Pink Ball]

He's my Schrodinger's read, I thought you would've already noticed at this point

[TrueSoulEnergy]

He's my Schrodinger's read, I thought you would've already noticed at this point

I don’t know what that means and why exactly would I have noticed it?
Also, I suppose you still SR me?

[Pink Ball]

No

[TrueSoulEnergy]

No

So what’s your full read on me currently?

[Pink Ball]

Null. I thought your first reaction was you trying to replicate your town game, but then I came to the conclusion that it was legit so it was NAI. I don't think you would be able to replicate what your towngame looks like too.

To be more precise, I would say the town side of the null

[springlullaby]

Why doesn't it matter? If spring is scum, they'll fail the quiz and give scum a leg up. They could also pass as scum to gain trust and bus. I'm not sure how I feel on spring because there's been some questionable actions from their direction. I'm not ruling out that they could be overwhelmed from being chainleader, but it is curious by any means.

What do you think is questionable?

[springlullaby]

The way ABR spent the early game hanging back and only got passionate about the quiz team bothered me. There is scum motivation in trying to get the team rejected.
I SR TSE because of his defensiveness, nonsensical pushes and his attempts to get people pushing him killed

Yet you denied the quiz. Why?

[Dunnstral]

Actually he didn't deny it - he danced around the idea of denying it but never voted, and I think that looks worse

[springlullaby]

Ok, I think I have to make clear something at that point.

My role is neighbor: and I'm in a neighborood with Pink Ball. I've confirmed with the mod just to be sure that it's not alignment indicative so I've left it go to the wayside. Because I see no point to the role in this game.
Pink Ball can confirm or deny.

I'm outing it so it doesn't create chaos further down the road.

I'm mostly null on PB.
> From a mechanical standpoint this could go either s/t neighbor or t/t neighbor
> from gameplay i'm leaning null, perhaps null-townish because PB as scum is a lot more popcorny.

I'd advise against lynching PB at this point.

[springlullaby]

Btw, still think ABR is scum: I think he counted on me thinking that his antagonizing me was town.
It dissolved because it didn't work.

[farside22]

@Raya: I would rather you did not pass to cakez.

[Dunnstral]

When is it appropriate for town power roles to claim to avoid being lynched?

[Raya36]

Post your lynch pool guys.

-Albert B Rampage
-TSE
-Starbuck

Ok.
So yeah, other then me all his scum Reads are “Safe” this round.
Figured that was the case.

Can you explain how they are safe?

Starbuck has been getting a mix of scum and town reads and ABR wasn't getting scumreads until recently if I recall correctly?

We are safe because we already have the chain. Save for TSE.

Oh I see what you mean. His post was before those people were safe though.

[Raya36]

@Raya I still highly advice you give the chain to TSE.
ala plan 897

I'm going to need some more convincing on this because right now I'd like to see TSE in the last 2.

Up to you really we have a lot of time to think it through and I have reads I need to figure out as well.
I personally just think his unwnd read comes from very frustrated town along with a lot of his other posts. But his ISO is much like mine becoming increasingly difficult to parse.

I'll read PB, unwnd and Sircakes in more depth so hopefully I can find some good reads elsewhere we can work with.

I want some time to consider this. I honestly trust your townread on him more than my scumread since I'm usually wrong D1 and you're basically conftown to me. If not I'm thinking I'll pass it to Sircakez since we have some similar reads. I definitely don't want Sircakez in the bottom 2.

Can you explain your SirCakez Town read to me?

These are just some quick bullet points I took. I can go into more depth tomorrow but I'm falling asleep

SirCakez:
-Overall I think his content is ok
-We have very similar reads which is a good sign
-Our top townread and top scumread are the same
-I think his reads make sense and I can see a town perspective
-He's also going against a lot of the main town reads which I wouldn't expect from scum

I don’t see the last part.
He Doesn’t scum read a highly Town read player.

Not scumread but be doesnt jump on the bandwagon and call them town. Off the top of my head I can think of myself and Dunn.

[Raya36]

@Raya: I would rather you did not pass to cakez.

Why not. Who would you like to see in the bottom 2?

[farside22]

When is it appropriate for town power roles to claim to avoid being lynched?

I think if you are the bottom 2 it would make sense for claims then.

@Raya: I would rather you did not pass to cakez.

Why not. Who would you like to see in the bottom 2?

I'm scum reading cakez.
I would keep PB and Beeboy out of the bottom 2.
I'm torn about TSE, as I can tell I see a lot of things that read inflated and over the top and he has pissed me off with some of his ego that comes off as unnecessary, but Bee seems to be town reading him. I read unwnd and I liked how he wrote things but then I felt maybe it's because I see things the same way as he does so I'm bias there.
I see you town read cakez (don't agree with that read at all as you can tell). His reads don't make sense and I think he's buddying up once he declared a light scum read on PB after it was voiced by others.
I know I'm not the only player that see's the TSE/unwnd dynamic in one way or another.
On a personal level I would like to see TSE/Cakez bottom 2 as my scum read on cakez is stronger then TSE. On a more thoughtful and interesting dynamic and something that I think would give more voices to this with people giving there 2 cents I would say unwnd/Cakez on the bottom 2.
I'd be curious to see who say's what more since some have found both scummy and Beeboy hasn't pulled one way or another. I think it would make it a voice for all to say who they scum read more and as I said I would still be advocating Cakez as scum either way.

[Raya36]

I'm honestly not super happy with the pool that's left. Beeboy obviously doesn't flip scum but they should be here for that reason. I don't want to see PB or SirCakez lynched. I actually think the Unwnd vs TSE has high potential to be TvS though and I think we're most likely to hit scum between them and I think Beeboy or PB should choose based on what majority have asked for. Then SirCakez who I town read can choose between Beeboy and PB deciding the lynch.

I was thinking something like this:

Raya > SirCakez > PB/Beeboy > PB/Beeboy > TSE/Unwnd