Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[MariaR]

Hey guys, I know things can get a little heated but let us keep everything strictly game related please. No more of these insults consider this a warning.

[springlullaby]

I did approve the team, but you should have approved. If you're town and you're nominating the team, your vote goes on that approve list. It's like not voting yourself for President. Why would you go through all the trouble of a campaign to abstain? Makes no sense.

The fact you didn't do that after saying that scum would gain an advantage is suspect. It's easy to sit back and say what's useful to you now. What would have been useful to me, and maybe others, was you voting for your own quiz team when you had the ability to do so.

The analogy doesn't work. If it hadn't been hammered, I would perhaps have hammered myself, or changed the team. I can't say now because it's done.
How much weight do you put in this argument as being indicative of my alignment?

Also, could you give a list of your read please?

[Pink Ball]

Hey guys, I know things can get a little heated but let us keep everything strictly game related please. No more of these insults consider this a warning.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Spoiler:

Instead of throwing Shade how about you actually provide something to go along with it.
I don’t like you thus far.

OMGUS

How is it OMGUS to legit defend yourself when someone shades you?
In no way is this OMGUS.
The fact you think you can actually throw shade Willy nilly like this is hysterical.

Instead of throwing Shade how about you actually provide something to go along with it.
I don’t like you thus far.

How about this.
Instead of being like “Oh TSE is bad lol look at this guy”
How about you ask me a question or make me explain one of my posts.
Or maybe actually explain why your not liking me.

The reason I won’t choose you and Dunn is because you guys are both playing pretty strong and you are obvious Town targets to pick to keep.
Usually if scum can’t pick their buddy they would pick you or Dunn because your the “easy route”
And they get a higher chance for a mislynch.

I don't think I'm following this line of thought. Bee and Dunn are obvious to keep I agree with. I agree that if scum can't pick their buddy a strong town is a good choice. What I'm not following is why that's a reason to not give Bee or Dunn the chain? Wouldn't it be better to do that and take away that easy option for scum?

I'm easily won over by no-nonsense posts ilke #175 from Albert B. Rampage but in terms of his direction I agree with SirCakez on Dunn that his behavior is mostly NAI

Another thought I had during work is the shade on midwaybear. This is going off the FoS list I've seen but ???? is what I come to when reading his posts. What about them is so concerning from the other lot who are essentially sitting on their hands? When it comes down to how I like to play games it's that I enjoy reading t`h

*Cough*

Hypocrite

*Cough*
You want explanation on someone but don’t give any yourself for yours truly. (TSE)
I’ll say this though.
Midwaybear at least gave his explanation on why he believes me to be scummy, unlike you.
I also feel like you might be trying to attempt to pocket Midwaybear and get him to Town read you because for starters he isn’t a main Town read. He’s a middle man. So town reading Dunn and Bee is casual. Their strong it’s normal. Not exactly going to get you anywhere. Now you think hmm. They definitely aren’t going to be the last to choose on the chain.
So what do you do? Simple.
You pick someone in the middle area AKA Midwaybear and decide “Hey!” “If I can get them on my side they will pick me to stay around”
Typical scum play Tbh.

This early argument with unwnd was where I started disliking him

Spoiler:

I was accurate in this game.
http://duelistgroundz.com/index.php?/to ... nt-4172486

I was “Chrome”

Everything I said he was accurate.
Macer and Fiend were the only possible scum left.
I was reading Macer scum over Fiend because Macer played so bad IMO.

I also disliked that he needed to bring in another game to try to validate himself

Spoiler:

springlullaby>Albert B. Rampage>midwaybear>Dunnstral>NDmath>farside22>Starbuck

Chainless:(6)- SirCakez, Raya36, Pink Ball, unwnd, TrueSoulEnergy, beeboy

Ideal Outcome

springlullaby>Albert B. Rampage>midwaybear>Dunnstral>NDmath>farside22>Starbuck

>Raya>TrueSoulEnergy/XXXXX>Beeboy>XXXXX/XXXXX

XXXXX = PB, Sircakez, Unwnd

Raya: Can't be lynched so should be cleared sooner.
TSE: Apparently people have issue with him and having a non globally town read player here forever puts a ??? on the other player who wasn't killed. So I'd like to go after TSE as the big murder boi.
TSE's tunnel/ engagement on unwnd felt legit, I thought they had real conviction and frustration behind that push and it's not a spot when scum would feel the need or have that genuine kind of emotion over something. Reminds me of my old gameplay and I know as scum this is much harder to fake before lylo/near lylo where losing out on the push is essentially a loss. The emotional attachment he has to "being listened to" is different then a "staying alive" emotion that either town or scum can experience.


I am not sure which of those 3 are worth killing. I'd have to think it out a bit more, my issue with not putting PB higher then Sircakez despite my reads list implying that is the case is when I tried to word my justification for it I couldn't actually do a very good job of it which is the signs of a bad read. I am not a player who will force onto people something I feel "more comfortable" with, I only shove my ideas when I strongly stand by it.

I think flipping TSE is best because they are such a contentious slot

I think lying one of you or Unwnd is best.
What was/is your read on Unwnd currently?

And then here he's trying to get two of his attackers in unwnd and myself killed

Do you Town read Unwnd from our interactions?
If so, why?
I only brought up the game to show that Town in General (FM Overall) need to play better. It was never to validate myself.
In the last thing you quoted I was asking you a question to see your reaction and if you would slip scum buddies with Unwnd. Your reaction however wasn’t alignment indicative so I couldn’t get a good determination towards it.

[farside22]

Albert B. Rampage town
Dunnstral scum
SirCakez town
Raya36 null
Starbuck town
farside22 scum
unwnd scum
NDmath town
TrueSoulEnergy town
midwaybear null
beeboy town
springlullaby town

Pretty good reads I'd say

'Why is Abr a town read.

He would be playing for the long run instead of what he's doing right now

So you will allow him to contradict himself the whole game and continue to town read him???

Can i please be scum in a game your in next time? That would be really awesome.

Why is contradicting himself inherently scummy?

You're already scum this game, is it awesome?

He is using it because he can not because he is really changing reads. Any time he gets called out on changing a read he throws out that he is allowed to change it and never explain why.

And no I'm not scum this game. I would be a lot more happy and less bitchy.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Most Likely Town to Least Likely Town in Order.

Midwaybear
Beeboy
NDMath
Pink Ball
Albert B. Rampage
Dunnstral
Raya
Springlullaby
Starbuck
Farside22
SirCakez
Unwnd

Should I bother mentioning the OMGUS this post is.
I really thought it was ego for awhile but you have to be scum.
There is no way a person brags as much as you do and produce OMGUS reads.
It's like a guy who says he has 9 inches and comes up very much short.

How’s this have anything to do with “Ego”
I’m giving a list of reads.
If you want to complain about it, make your own fuckin readslist.

I did. You read it because you noted you were on my scum list.

I knew I was on your scum list before you made one (if you did because I must have missed it)
Just by an Interaction I could tell you were going to scum read me.
Couldn’t tell your alignment.
However, from Midwaybear and Unwnd I could tell that Midwaybears thoughts about me were actual pure thoughts.
Unwnd’s however were not pure thoughts. They didn’t bother explaining Shit before throwing doubt on me.
Midwaybear in the other hand gave an actual solid reasoning towards me which was genuine.

I said your reads and actions on unwnd read over the top. SC just gave a long read with reasoning on a scum read for you with reasons (that you ignored)
And you said yourself there was scum among the players scum reading you because 'they are scared of me".
That's ego.
That's BS
And I have explained my issues with you, not as indepth but pointedly throughout the game.
So no I don't see you explaining your scum reads other then OMGUS.

LOL
Well if you are the scum team are you saying you won’t be scared of me right now? XD

I explained my read on Unwnd pretty clearly.
Maybe go back and ISO me if you missed it.

You

have not

explained your other scum reads with reasons.

No.
Your right.
I’ve only explained My Unwnd Read.

[Pink Ball]

farside, no matter what my answer to your question was, you would answer "you will allow him to contradict himself yaddah yaddah". Do you feel engaging me right now about ABR is useful in any sense?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I’ve explained my NDMath, Midwaybear and Unwnd read.
I believe that’s it.

[farside22]

Oh and anytime scum ABR wants to be on a players good side all he has to say is I scum read that player too!!!

[unwnd]

Ok I claim one-shot wiretapper

Once per game i can choose a player before phase end, that players vote on the quiz will be proxy'd by my own instead

I don't receive what the person originally chose and the person affected will not be notified

Formatting on phone hard

[Pink Ball]

yes farside, we are all stupid and falling into ABR's pocket with the oldest pocket tactic of all

[farside22]

farside, no matter what my answer to your question was, you would answer "you will allow him to contradict himself yaddah yaddah". Do you feel engaging me right now about ABR is useful in any sense?

No I was hoping you would explain why I shouldn't scum read him. Apparently you and I disagree with what is scummy.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Albert B. Rampage town
Dunnstral scum
SirCakez town
Raya36 null
Starbuck town
farside22 scum
unwnd scum
NDmath town
TrueSoulEnergy town
midwaybear null
beeboy town
springlullaby town

Pretty good reads I'd say

'Why is Abr a town read.

He would be playing for the long run instead of what he's doing right now

So you will allow him to contradict himself the whole game and continue to town read him???

Can i please be scum in a game your in next time? That would be really awesome.

Why is contradicting himself inherently scummy?

You're already scum this game, is it awesome?

He is using it because he can not because he is really changing reads. Any time he gets called out on changing a read he throws out that he is allowed to change it and never explain why.

And no I'm not scum this game.

I would be a lot more happy and less bitchy.

Pretty sure you’d still be bitchy regardless of alignment.

[midwaybear]

Ok I claim one-shot wiretapper

Once per game i can choose a player before phase end, that players vote on the quiz will be proxy'd by my own instead

I don't receive what the person originally chose and the person affected will not be notified

Formatting on phone hard

that could be a scum PR lol

[Pink Ball]

Third line sounds added from you to make it sound like a town role

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Ok I claim one-shot wiretapper

Once per game i can choose a player before phase end, that players vote on the quiz will be proxy'd by my own instead

I don't receive what the person originally chose and the person affected will not be notified

Formatting on phone hard

That doesn’t confirm your alignment.
It’s also a role that benefits you.

[Starbuck]

Also, could you give a list of your read please?

Missed this before. Wrapping up some stuff at work, but quoting so I answer it when I come back.

[unwnd]

Then id be wasting my utility telling you wouldn't I?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ok I claim one-shot wiretapper

Once per game i can choose a player before phase end, that players vote on the quiz will be proxy'd by my own instead

I don't receive what the person originally chose and the person affected will not be notified

Formatting on phone hard

Lynch this with fire

[Pink Ball]

farside, no matter what my answer to your question was, you would answer "you will allow him to contradict himself yaddah yaddah". Do you feel engaging me right now about ABR is useful in any sense?

No I was hoping you would explain why I shouldn't scum read him. Apparently you and I disagree with what is scummy.

Why should I explain you that? Scumread him all you like and let me townread him all I want too. ABR is not a viable lynch today, so it's a moot point

[unwnd]

Third line sounds added from you to make it sound like a town role

Hmm or maybe it's balance? Complain after the game

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Ok I claim one-shot wiretapper

Once per game i can choose a player before phase end, that players vote on the quiz will be proxy'd by my own instead

I don't receive what the person originally chose and the person affected will not be notified

Formatting on phone hard

that could be a scum PR lol

Well MidWayBear, This is why you rolled town.

[Pink Ball]

Balance from what

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Like just by Tone it’s obvious MidWayBear. Beeboy and Math are Town.

[springlullaby]

...I have trouble thinking how that is a town aligned role.
But then it's such a bad claim too.

Could you confirm whether you wiretap the fail/pass vote or the chainleader vote or both?