Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[Pink Ball]

How am I TMI if I'm calling you scum, unwnd? I'm right then?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

If Unwnd is lynched and Mafia Nightkills me.
They might try and setup a ABR mislynch.
Don’t let them.
And the remaining mafia at that time might be SirCakes and Farside

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: PB

[Albert B. Rampage]

How am I TMI if I'm calling you scum, unwnd? I'm right then?

Lets see if this guy is for real or what!!!!! I'm ready for the flip!!!!

[beeboy]

Good luck PB

[midwaybear]

good luck for what

[Pink Ball]

So I have to decide between SirCakez, my Schrodinger read, and unwnd, the claimed one?

[Raya36]

That's correct PB

[beeboy]

[springlullaby]

So, the towniest interpretation of unwnd's role I can get to is a kind of roleblock that can reliably flip one quiz outcome if one, and only one member of a quiz team is mafia, once.

As an unclaimed role, I'd imagine them having to scumhunt quite hard, to try to make it work.
But then there is their interaction with beeboy, whom they designated as "Fine" since the beginning of the game, but they still think he is an unconnected role.
They are quotable in saying that they thought if a team pass the test, scum if any, on the team would receive an advantage too: I don't see how in the context of that misconception he thought his role could work.

The only way I can think of it being reliably useful to town, is in a case he is in fact town, AND if the quiz team's size vary day to day -> being reduced to a 2 player team for example, he could guarantee a positive outcome for town.

I dunno, I think I have to work really hard to get to that conclusion, but at the same time the claim is so unbelievably bad from a scum standpoint, as it doesn't really out any other potential and really useful PR.

Pink Ball, what do you think about that?

[springlullaby]

Also, at the same time I'm totally fine with TSE or unwnd as policy lynches btw.

[farside22]

If Unwnd is lynched and Mafia Nightkills me.
They might try and setup a ABR mislynch.
Don’t let them.
And the remaining mafia at that time might be SirCakes and Farside

Not sure why you would think this after high 5ing each other that you believe you caught scum.

[beeboy]

I don't want to lynch unwnd on the sole basis I scum read ABR a lot.
But that's such a shit reason to tell PB to kill cakez.


But here is me putting the thought in his head
B)

[midwaybear]

why is cakez scum?

[Pink Ball]

@unwnd, @SirCakez,

do you want to play a game?

[farside22]

So, the towniest interpretation of unwnd's role I can get to is a kind of roleblock that can reliably flip one quiz outcome if one, and only one member of a quiz team is mafia, once.

As an unclaimed role, I'd imagine them having to scumhunt quite hard, to try to make it work.
But then there is their interaction with beeboy, whom they designated as "Fine" since the beginning of the game, but they still think he is an unconnected role.
They are quotable in saying that they thought if a team pass the test, scum if any, on the team would receive an advantage too: I don't see how in the context of that misconception he thought his role could work.

The only way I can think of it being reliably useful to town, is in a case he is in fact town, AND if the quiz team's size vary day to day -> being reduced to a 2 player team for example, he could guarantee a positive outcome for town.

I dunno, I think I have to work really hard to get to that conclusion, but at the same time the claim is so unbelievably bad from a scum standpoint, as it doesn't really out any other potential and really useful PR.

Pink Ball, what do you think about that?

Problem is unwnd is being scum read by others. Everyone could claim for example they voted to pass the test, but it failed, then she gets blamed.
If one scum is in the group they can claim they all voted to pass the quiz and blame unwnd but in reality scum in that group failed it.

[farside22]

I don't want to lynch unwnd on the sole basis I scum read ABR a lot.
But that's such a shit reason to tell PB to kill cakez.


But here is me putting the thought in his head
B)

Im with you there. Well at least with the scum read. As i pointed out there is just too much wifom with unwnd agility

[Raya36]

@unwnd, @SirCakez,

do you want to play a game?

I'm intrigued

[Raya36]

but at the same time the claim is so unbelievably bad from a scum standpoint, as it doesn't really out any other potential and really useful PR.

This is the only major concern I have with scumreading his claim. What he claimed seems like a scumrole. So why would he claim that as scum? My only guess is he wanted to be as honest as possible and thought he could make it sound town but failed

[Raya36]

Problem is unwnd is being scum read by others. Everyone could claim for example they voted to pass the test, but it failed, then she gets blamed.
If one scum is in the group they can claim they all voted to pass the quiz and blame unwnd but in reality scum in that group failed it.

I never considered this. But this only works if Unwnd claimed. If he never claimed it could easily cause a mislynch if a quiz fails because of him and the entire team was town. Someone within the group would be put to blame and nobody would know it was him that caused it to fail. Not even those within the team.

[Pink Ball]

You guys gave me a power that's getting me drunk. I have so much control on the gamestate right now...

I want a town case on midwaybear. He's my biggest scumread and I'm making my decision based on that read.

[springlullaby]

Problem is unwnd is being scum read by others. Everyone could claim for example they voted to pass the test, but it failed, then she gets blamed.
If one scum is in the group they can claim they all voted to pass the quiz and blame unwnd but in reality scum in that group failed it.

Yes, that's why I can't really wrap my mind around it, because it's such a terrible claim for scum to make.
I guess Occam's?

[Pink Ball]

@spring, unwnd is town if midwaybear is scum. SirCakez is scum if midwaybear is scum. I'm saving unwnd.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I trust you PB. If both are town then FML.

[springlullaby]

@spring, unwnd is town if midwaybear is scum. SirCakez is scum if midwaybear is scum. I'm saving unwnd.

I don't get the logic but it's up to you.
Maybe you should explain more for your own sake.

Then too be honest, I'll say it again, I'm ok to lynch uwnd or TSE on policy ground alone.