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[unwnd]

Ngl im really confused by PBall right now, not by the read but almost the behavior whiplash

Oh and spring: What policy? Explain. I don't enjoy having people employ their ideals of what is/isn't policy based on join date meanwhile i have an account on here that dates back all the way to 2010. Not a lie either

[midwaybear]

it's such a weird town role though...
and it's not necessarily false guilty because if you pick pool of five, it is likely that at least one will be scum
pedit: policy lynch

[beeboy]

The claim is a fake claim or this game has a framer if you think that's a legit scum role.
Again it's neutral and I don't like Cakez dipping here.
It's really sketchy.


unwnd is here fighting for his life because he has no one guiding him to say he is digging his own grave each time he appears lol.

You need a good role yourself to look at my role and assume that high power scum roles make sense. Since turning an all town group into a group that "must" have one scum is game breaking.

I just think MariaR would give a reasonable fake claim so I am not giving it too much credit esp when I was null on both of them. But if we are playing the argue the role game I will gladly explain the town cases.

[beeboy]

Especially I am willing to explain how that role is town when I want to see unwnd live.

[Pink Ball]

Ngl im really confused by PBall right now, not by the read but almost the behavior whiplash

Oh and spring: What policy? Explain. I don't enjoy having people employ their ideals of what is/isn't policy based on join date meanwhile i have an account on here that dates back all the way to 2010. Not a lie either

I'm pocketing you of course.

[beeboy]

PB do it, end it, give me my flip.

[Raya36]

@spring, unwnd is town if midwaybear is scum. SirCakez is scum if midwaybear is scum. I'm saving unwnd.

I'd be interested to hear the reasoning behind this. I scumread midwaybear and unwnd and I want to see where I'm wrong if I am.

Read midwaybear's ISO, he's clearly following an agenda and trying to get unwnd lynched and protect SirCakez.

If I'm right, I'm pretty sure the scumteam is midwaybear+Dunnstral+SirCakez

Alright, I'll take a look

To follow up on this I also noticed that midway never actually mentioned cakez until the chain started moving and in that first mention he suddenly had a town read on him even though it was never mentioned before.

[beeboy]

Serious question, regardless of alignment do you guys believe unwnds claim?
Because this entire time I've just assumed that's a very reasonable fake claim but I am just curious for takes.


If we believe the claim unwnd is town because framer kinda destroys this game by turning groups of 5 town into groups with "1 scum"

[beeboy]

Serious question, regardless of alignment do you guys believe unwnds claim?
Because this entire time I've just assumed that's a very reasonable fake claim but I am just curious for takes.


If we believe the claim unwnd is town because framer kinda destroys this game by turning groups of 5 town into groups with "1 scum"

On review my role pm is actually specifically worded to interact with unwnds role.
The quiz I am on always fails, it doesn't force me to vote no (which would let my vote switch)
I vote whatever I want but the quiz fails anyway kind of deal.

[farside22]

Serious question, regardless of alignment do you guys believe unwnds claim?
Because this entire time I've just assumed that's a very reasonable fake claim but I am just curious for takes.


If we believe the claim unwnd is town because framer kinda destroys this game by turning groups of 5 town into groups with "1 scum"

I think the claim is true.

Also scum reads stand with Abr/Midway and either TSE/SL

I took cakez out with his comments on TSE but he was added in there originally for his weak push on Abr.
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[Pink Ball]

@spring, unwnd is town if midwaybear is scum. SirCakez is scum if midwaybear is scum. I'm saving unwnd.

I'd be interested to hear the reasoning behind this. I scumread midwaybear and unwnd and I want to see where I'm wrong if I am.

Read midwaybear's ISO, he's clearly following an agenda and trying to get unwnd lynched and protect SirCakez.

If I'm right, I'm pretty sure the scumteam is midwaybear+Dunnstral+SirCakez

Alright, I'll take a look

To follow up on this I also noticed that midway never actually mentioned cakez until the chain started moving and in that first mention he suddenly had a town read on him even though it was never mentioned before.

And he gave the chain to Dunn when he NEVER mentioned Dunn before and was saying he would give Starbuck the chain, like a lot. He jumped on me when I called Dunn scum, he's been softly protecting SirCakez when nobody's asking him too.

[Raya36]

Tbh it's more the way Cakez fell off the grid as he started taking more heat.
While unwnd is staying here and is in fight or flight mode.

One of them is fighting for themselves, the other decided it's best to step away.

i.e I can see an agenda from Cakez POV.

So you think Unwnd's claim is genuine and town? I'm having a hard time seeing it

I said it's NAI at worst, ever so slightly favors them at best.
It's a fake claim or a real claim. It's too powerful in the hands of a wolf as a real role since it's a effectively a role that gives false guilties.

I don't think this game has a framer in it, that's just not good game design????
The role also makes sense compared to my role, the dumb clause is comparable to the dumb clause in my role that implies the pm was given to a scum player. I don't want to divulge too deeply what I mean because I am not getting mod killed quoting my role pm.

Right. I agree that it's very powerful for scum. But it's also such an anti-town role. I'll trust you again on this for now though since you say it makes sense compared to your role.

[beeboy]

Right. I agree that it's very powerful for scum. But it's also such an anti-town role. I'll trust you again on this for now though since you say it makes sense compared to your role.

I appreciate your trust, I am doing my best to not let you down.

[midwaybear]

The quiz I am on always fails, it doesn't force me to vote no

then how does it always fail?

[Raya36]

The claim is a fake claim or this game has a framer if you think that's a legit scum role.
Again it's neutral and I don't like Cakez dipping here.
It's really sketchy.


unwnd is here fighting for his life because he has no one guiding him to say he is digging his own grave each time he appears lol.

Ok that's convincing enough for me lol

[midwaybear]

And he gave the chain to Dunn when he NEVER mentioned Dunn before and was saying he would give Starbuck the chain, like a lot.

I said I was thinking about giving her the chain, but I decided not to because didn't like the defensive nature of her early posts.

[beeboy]

The quiz I am on always fails, it doesn't force me to vote no

then how does it always fail?

Because my role forces it to fail.
I don't think my role pm included flavor to help me elaborate on this smh mod

[beeboy]

Never mind it does include flavor, I am really stupid.

[midwaybear]

I was confused why everybody seemed to be scumreading cakez
his posts seemed fine and not really notable

[farside22]

Thinking of passing the chain to Starbuck ngl

I would rather you just do you and fully justify it then sheep a read

how is that a sheep? I already explained why I TR her before.

farside, unwnd, tse, starbuck all give me doubts. And then I can't give it to PB or Cakez who I think are town(mostly Cakez). NDMath has posted way too little, and not that much substance. I can see myself giving it to Dunn or beeboy then. I like Dunnstral's posts because he seems critical of things others were saying, and veered away from sheeping, so VOTE: Dunnstral

Train of thoughts. Note the last post was 10 minutes later.

[beeboy]

Actually unwnd can force me to pass.
Which makes his role not strictly anti town.
>_>

If unwnd had the ability to force me to pass why wasn't that notable for him >_>
@unwnd send help.

I am regretting the last 2 pages.

[midwaybear]

you confirm this with the mod?

[unwnd]

I don't think two roles exist in tandem to clear the other. Id rather be townread on my merit of being townie over a role i happened to get

[beeboy]

you confirm this with the mod?

Yup, as soon as I stated the opposite I asked the mod to double check.

[Raya36]

@spring, unwnd is town if midwaybear is scum. SirCakez is scum if midwaybear is scum. I'm saving unwnd.

I'd be interested to hear the reasoning behind this. I scumread midwaybear and unwnd and I want to see where I'm wrong if I am.

Read midwaybear's ISO, he's clearly following an agenda and trying to get unwnd lynched and protect SirCakez.

If I'm right, I'm pretty sure the scumteam is midwaybear+Dunnstral+SirCakez

Alright, I'll take a look

To follow up on this I also noticed that midway never actually mentioned cakez until the chain started moving and in that first mention he suddenly had a town read on him even though it was never mentioned before.

And he gave the chain to Dunn when he NEVER mentioned Dunn before and was saying he would give Starbuck the chain, like a lot. He jumped on me when I called Dunn scum, he's been softly protecting SirCakez when nobody's asking him too.

I've scumread midway from the start as well. My only concern with this being the team is that I don't think scum would be so obvious in interactions with their buddies