Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[Tuxedo Mask]

Should I claim?

Once someone announces intent to hammer they will ask you to, then claim and provide final thoughts.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: gibus

No need for that, I'm afraid

[Dunnstral]

(Blair is probably scum)

[gibus]

I'm a

Vanilla Townie

[Nauci]

Holy fucking smokes I can not believe you just did that again Dunnstral what the fuck even

[Nauci]

Everyone hurry the hell up and answer my questions before Elmo wakes up and locks the thread

[Tuxedo Mask]

Also, you and Nacui flailing over the last pages didn't look great.

What do you mean by flailing here?

1945 to 1958 feel really off tonally. Like you're both arguing with Blair, but you're realizing Gibus isn't doing well. So you're doing a very nonserious scum read on them. Like it feels really covered in banter to leave things open in case you need to lynch him, and don't need to follow up if you don't. But could be wrong since you haven't announced hammer intent.

P-edit. The heck was that.

[Tuxedo Mask]

Man, do I not know what is going on in this game.

[Nauci]

Also, you and Nacui flailing over the last pages didn't look great.

What do you mean by flailing here?

1945 to 1958 feel really off tonally. Like you're both arguing with Blair, but you're realizing Gibus isn't doing well. So you're doing a very nonserious scum read on them. Like it feels really covered in banter to leave things open in case you need to lynch him, and don't need to follow up if you don't. But could be wrong since you haven't announced hammer intent.

P-edit. The heck was that.

-I was casing Blair, not arguing with her
-I was also asking Gibus serious questions before he pulled that shit
-It sounded jovial because the thing I was calling out in 1938 was literally so ridiculous you can't tell me it's not hilarious

[Nauci]

VOTE: gibus

No need for that, I'm afraid

I challenge you to link me a single game where you lolhammered as town

[Nauci]

Gibus, give us that final twilight reads list before you flip

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Everyone hurry the hell up and answer my questions before Elmo wakes up and locks the thread

Rude. I'm actually at work and have been for a few hours. Why do I come and work OT again?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 2.Final

Blair (Freddie) (2)

- Nauci, gibus,

Dunnstral (1)

- Aloratom (Votato)

Gibus (5)

- Tuxedo Mask, Blair (Freddie), Battle Mage (Formerfish), Dunnstral (Lilith2013), BBmolla (Osuka)

Not Voting (0) -

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-06-02 08:15:00)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Gibus The last OG player was lynched. They were a

Vanilla Townie

Night 2 begins now. Actions due in (expired on 2020-06-03 21:05:00)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Since I'm going to sleep and its been that kind of a day. Im Opening Early.

Flips and PMs incoming. Also Mod note: Ill be asleep when deadline passes.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

BBmolla was shot Night 2. They were a

Vanilla Townie

Day 3a Begins Now.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 3.01

Not Voting (6) -

Nauci, Aloratom (Votato) Tuxedo Mask, Battle Mage (Formerfish), Dunnstral (Lilith2013), Blair (Freddietheladie)

With 6 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-06-11 08:15:00)

Mod Note: I spent 15 Mins trying to figure out who I was missing from a vote count.

[Battle Mage]

Dude honestly it's probably just Dunnstral/Tuxedo, Tuxedo's posts are nonsense

VOTE: Tuxedo

We will avenge you BBMolla! And, uncharacteristically, I'll stand by my promise of yesterday.

[Battle Mage]

although with 6 players left, it's probably massclaim/No-Lynch time?

UNVOTE:

[Battle Mage]

I will suggest the following claim order:

Tuxedo mask
Dunnstral
Nausi
Blair
Aloratom
Battle Mage

[Battle Mage]

I will suggest the following claim order:

Tuxedo mask
Dunnstral
Nausi
Blair
Aloratom
Battle Mage

slight change, we're gonna go:

Tuxedo mask
Blair
Dunnstral
Nausi
Aloratom
Battle Mage

[Dunnstral]

I will suggest the following claim order:

Tuxedo mask
Dunnstral
Nausi
Blair
Aloratom
Battle Mage

slight change, we're gonna go:

Tuxedo mask
Blair
Dunnstral
Nausi
Aloratom
Battle Mage

That's fine with me.

[Aloratom]

Why mass claim exactly? No lynch is the play here. We just give scum a PR target since we're going to no lynch anyway.

[Battle Mage]

It potentially depends on what the claims are. It's pretty likely we'll No Lynch, but not guaranteed. We should definitely mass-claim to get as much info as possible today.

Mith taught me this one!

[Nauci]

I'm defining lolhammering/quickhammering as making the final vote before A: declaring intent to do so and waiting for the claim, and B: not allowing town a reasonable amount of time for discussion when there's more than like 6 hours to deadline. Dug through a buttload of Dunnstral's games from the last year or so. I omitted games with special setups since I don't have the time to figure those out and it would change the dynamic, and micro games. Here's mostly mini and large normals and a few newbie games.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11467331

Dunnstral Town

, survived 5 days,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=81317

Dunnstral Town

, survived 6 days,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81560

Dunnstral Town

, Lynched Day 2,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=80463

Dunnstral Town

, Killed Night 2,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=81655

Dunnstral Town, Lynched Day 1

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11487994

Dunnstral Mafia Goon

, Survived 4 days, basically

lolhammered Day 3

(https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11487994), lolhammered Day 4 but that doesn't count because that's scum victory

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81319

Dunnstral Town

, Survived 3 Days,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1675

Dunnstral Town

, Survived 3 days with Mafia victory,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=80601

Dunnstral Mafia Goon,

Lynched Day 2,

lolhammered Day 1

(https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11204586)

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=80492

Dunnstral Town

, Survived 3 days (Mafia Wins),

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=80162

Dunnstral Town

, Lynched Day 1, obviously

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80296

Dunnstral Mafia

, Won with Mafia,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80455

Dunnstral Town

, Lynched Day 1,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80327

Dunnstral Town

, Lynched Day 2,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=80044

Dunnstral Town

, Survived 3 days (town victory),

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79944

Dunnstral Town

, Killed Night 3,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=78822

Before I get to the Dunnstral analysis, this game looks like it was WILD. Boonskies/Flavor leaf on Mafia, 144 pages for a Mini Normal, fake miller claim that got FL past a friggin investigation guilty. We should all skim this sometime because

Dunnstral town

, replaced in Day 3, killed Night 3,

no lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=78471

Dunnstral Mafia

, Survived 5 days to win,

did not lolhammer

except for final mafia victory vote

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=79079

Dunnstral Town

, Killed Night 3,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=77413

Dunnstral Mafia

, Lynched Day 6? There's some weird mechanics I'm not bothering to read.

Did not lolhammer.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=79344

Dunnstral Town

, Lynched Day 2,

did not lolhammer

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78440

Dunnstral Town

, Died Night 3,

Did not lolhammer

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I stopped looking at that point because there were several non-normal games and I had enough. Didn't find an instance of Dunnstral quickhammering as town, and I'm not sure if I ever even saw an instance of town!Dunnstral hammering as town period.

I swear that I had a few games with him back when I played in 2017 ish but apparently my memory is shit because I only found 1 game of mine where he was scum and he didn't get a chance to quickhammer because scum was lynched day 1 and he was lynched day 2. It's possible that I was mixing him up with Not_Mafia's ridiculous quickhammering? I don't think it matters because the above is sufficient.

VOTE: Dunnstral Who's your partner bruv?

I'm so dead ass confident about this one I think we should lynch even though it's MYLO.