Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

[Auro]

Smart, why can't you just roll town with me sometime dude?

I wish I could! Then I might actually get to play with you for more than a couple days

You should read the dead thread!
I was planning to 180 on you if I made it to lategame because I know scum!Smart keeps me alive when I "obvtown" read him

[Something_Smart]

I did. You are too scary to keep alive even when you're townreading me :X

[lilith2013]

Very enjoyable game and playerlist

^ 100%. would love to play with yall again

[lilith2013]

funny story, about halfway through this game I realized that the basis of my townread on GL was based on literally nothing - I went to go look for games we had played together so I could "meta" him and show why I felt that he sounded town, and there were like 2 games max that we had played together. luckily GL didn't realize

[Auro]

Lol! GL was town simply from his activity I think.
Sorry GL, I genuinely do enjoy arguing and walls

[BBmolla]

I think it was just the playerlist that didn't utilize the neighborhoods

I think keeping them open permanantly couldn't hurt though

[acryon]

Very glad I was right on my instinct of BB and Titus at least! I'm honestly also not sure how skitter kinda skated by. Thinking about my play, I kept meaning to go back and look at them and just didn't. Really well done by both slots!

[acryon]

Also that GOAT mafia PT. Never seen such an interesting/interactive thread.

[skitter30]

Keeping the hoods open would slowly negate the efficacy ofthe traffic analyst, no?

[skitter30]

Also that GOAT mafia PT. Never seen such an interesting/interactive thread.

I tend to talk a lot on scum pts
I have a couple that went to 30+ pages each

[acryon]

Also that GOAT mafia PT. Never seen such an interesting/interactive thread.

I tend to talk a lot on scum pts
I have a couple that went to 30+ pages each

That's great, and you guys were awesome! Really fun to read through that.

[skitter30]

i know, i think that eve's more likely scum here than auro, which is why i'm voting there

also idk why that team would be super threatened by acryon either

Umm, look at the VC - all Eve votes were directly after the Acryon wagon.

Acryon isn't the counterwagon to Eve, Eve is the counterwagon to Acryon.

VOTE: Skitter

auro, it was this vote, it didn't make much sense ^

[Auro]

Oh that. Well, the specific reason in my post was a mistake I made interpreting yours - but there were quite a few other strong reasons I thought I had to want your lynch too.

[skitter30]

i know, but looking at it i was like lolwut becaue that particular reason made little sense

[Auro]

Oh many times I vote due to aggregate reasons, like a tipping point of sorts. In that instance it was that you weren't grokking my reasoning or disingenuously denying my reasoning (yet again, is what I felt).

[skitter30]

Subject: Mini 2136 | Mod Thread

Skitter/GuiltyLion, are you both individually fine with being offwagon? I absolutely am.

sure

this is a pretty dangerous proposition to agree to for skitter, i feel. it's definitely a lose condition.

interested to see if she gets out of following through by hard-pushing a wagon and sort of brushing off any attempted micro-managing of who's on-wagon and who's off.

yeaaaaaaaah about that
i basically felt like i wasn't in a position where i could get away with protesting being on it, i felt like if i did anything more than a token protest it would backfire and cause more harm than good
also iirc at that point we had pinned allo already so it was functionally irrelevant + we had some contingency plans for bussing me if necessary

[skitter30]

Subject: Mini 2136 | Mod Thread

Random thought, but if the TA dies tonight, you should HEAVILY consider lynching people who said they were okay being off wagon, because that would mean scums figured out the TA and that they know there's no risk in being off wagon. Maybe there's a crumb out there. Just a random thought.

Very astute!

also this was also right ... but i was pretty sure if she got lynched it would be functionally irrelevant because people would forget about it

[acryon]

Subject: Mini 2136 | Mod Thread

Random thought, but if the TA dies tonight, you should HEAVILY consider lynching people who said they were okay being off wagon, because that would mean scums figured out the TA and that they know there's no risk in being off wagon. Maybe there's a crumb out there. Just a random thought.

Very astute!

also this was also right ... but i was pretty sure if she got lynched it would be functionally irrelevant because people would forget about it

Yeah and the problem here was that we had multiple townies who agreed to it too like GL/Auro.

[Auro]

I and Eve did put forward a version argument pretty strongly, no? That the people off wagon are suspect, and that you're competent enough to actually go for that kill.

[acryon]

I know I struggled this game with letting playstyle and effort influence my reads to much. I know effort and playstyle are totally NAI, but I still seem to let it influence me.

[skitter30]

I and Eve did put forward a version argument pretty strongly, no? That the people off wagon are suspect, and that you're competent enough to actually go for that kill.

right i forgot that you pushed that lol.
it wasn't quite the same argument that nom made
eve didn't push it, i don't think

the titus thing was kinda impulsive and i just kinda ran with it and strengthened it when i realized it was screwing with the gamestate that much
i mostly just wanted to keep her alive cuz i knew she was the best chance to misvote in lylo (i thought on gl but still)

[Auro]

I saw on/off wagon as NAI then, because once I *know* the TA I wouldn't make any efforts either way and just go with what town tells me to do. Out of curiosity, suppose you and 1/0 were both in the townbloc, would you have killed Allo?

I was betting that Titus would be lynched in LyLo as well.

[skitter30]

i didn't think she would be mislynched, i thought she would cast the lylo vote.

i think if we were both on-wagon we probably weren't and would have like killed you or something
(i felt like i was spewing so much bs cuz you and gl and like everyone else were completely right lol)

[Auro]

I'm very glad that I was correct in that argument! Next time I'll focus on putting my arguments across in better words.

[Auro]

i felt like i was spewing so much bs

EXACTLY - that's part of how I scumread you, I KNEW you understood. And you did this for like basically every argument I was throwing.

Fun stuff