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[Miss Lane]

UNVOTE: Votato

Not really feeling this lynch. Also I think 830 is a post town makes more than scum do.

I like Cālvin and Hobbes

[Miss Lane]

Page 34. I don't think it's clover.
Dunn has posted three times at this point and none of them have been good. Holden hasn't yet gotten out of the town range enough for me to disregard everything he's said yet.

[Miss Lane]

I will admit that I tried to start reading last night, realized that post number one hadn't been updated and promptly went to sleep. At least I'm kinda trying now, though

[Miss Lane]

mafblack is the official skin of this site

There are other skins?

You should try maftiger. It'll change your world.

Not in a good way

[Miss Lane]

@clover: im played with mastina before, so far she hasn't done anything that she hasn't done as scum as well. If there is something beside the town/scum reads im missing, let me know

Sure, but doesn't that go into the whole scum range theory? I wouldn't be surprised if mastina can post all she can as scum, but obviously scum come in with a certain agenda and ways to play the field. I don't really see that from her yet. I suppose if mastina is some super good scum player that tricks everyone I'd be a bit more reluctant to townread her. Do you think she shouldn't be townread at the moment? If I'm missing anything feel free to @ me. I don't want to be known as clueless and dense

[Miss Lane]

VOTE: Blatant Scum

[Miss Lane]

Spoiler: the extent of dunnstral's remotely content posts

Rvs vote

VOTE: votato

L-1, please claim

UNVOTE: Votato

Not really feeling this lynch. Also I think 830 is a post town makes more than scum do.

I like Cālvin and Hobbes

VOTE: Blatant Scum

^That vote is weirding me out

Why would town have janitor abilities?

no one else thinks that this ISO is worth wagoning? an "RVS vote" trying to get a claim, an unvote immediately following the claim because he suddenly "isnt feeling the lynch," then another vote without reason. 838 is a legit question i guess. then 1028 contradicts his unvote.

[Miss Lane]

Votecount 1.20

Blatant Scum(4)

~ Calvin and Hobbes, votato, Dr Easy Bake, Dunnstral

votato(4)

~ Conspire, PenguinPower, mastina, HoldenGolden

Birds and the Boys(2)

~ jjh927, chemist1422

Dunnstral(2)

~ Bingle, farside22

Conspire(1)

~ Clover Ebi

mastina(1)

~ Creature

Calvin and Hobbes(1)

~ Blatant Scum

Chemist1422(1)

~ Birds and the Boys


Not Voting (1): April Ludgate

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-11 11:45:58)

Joint Mod ISO

MOD REMINDERS

PenguinPower is V/LA until for a bit.

FLAVOR

Does scum double up on scum, or off scum?

[Miss Lane]

Townier side is the left side

Hard town: votato, HoldenGolden, Dr Easy Bake, Clover Ebi, April Ludgate, Creature
Town: mastina, chemist1422, Birds and the Boys, Conspire
Town but with mixed feelings: Calvin and Hobbes
Null: Bingle
Scum: PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Blatant Scum, farside22

I kind of hope it's holden golden now just because that would mean jjh s reads list managed to put all four scum in town or hard town

[Miss Lane]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

[Miss Lane]

Okay, I'm back!
@DEB: "Failed Mason claim"? Did you not think it was obviously fake? What was the fail?

-Calvin

Do you still think we are scum?

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Could everyone give me their top 1-2 townreads?

-turducken

HoldenGolden

Farside is decently high still on my list. Most of the people who get close to the top posts something that pings me which is probably a sign that I need to loosen up from the gameplan I entered with.

Assuming how jj answers he can be promoted to townhood

[Miss Lane]

votato's read on dunn is obviously fake, i just can't tell if it's fake because dunn's scum or fake because pototo's scum

[Miss Lane]

April Ludgate is Nero Cain, I would bet.

- turducken

nope.

i think it's relatively obvious who they are

Or Enter

double quadruple ultra-nope to the power of nope nope nope nope nope.

while the following post sounds a lot like me:

If anything you just slipped that your a vig lol.

I’ve essentially already claimed this, how else would i have the janitor ability.


I’m a JOAT. I have a 1 shot Janitor Vig.

This exact logic is why BS's comment is not a scumslip lol.

-turducken

Disagree.

You protecting him is scummy now.

How does this logic do such?

In what world does Votato have to target th SCUM KILL as a Janitor Doctor ever make sense coming from town?

That only makes sense if scum factional kill is janitor.

the rest of their posting does not much at all

[Miss Lane]

i'm actually kinda tempted to go into all the differences between April and me as far as posting

[Miss Lane]

ugh i was soo concentrated on the game and now all i can think of is that stupid hydra

[Miss Lane]

votato pushing dunnstral feels soooo icky

[Miss Lane]

I recognize on review that april and i actually do post with more similarity than i perhaps feel comfortable with

[Miss Lane]

sure. I only read from post 100 in your ISO, so theres more stuff before that, but mostly i have the same vibes. if you need i can go back further tomorrow. essentially, i see you asking a lot of questions and probing, but i dont see you pushing or pressing people. questioning people is pro-town, but also easy to do as scum. Between the questions and fluff, there arent a whole lot of posts where we see what HG is thinking. You dont present a lot of opinions or info collected from the questions.

the few opinions you have expressed are largely about methodology/theory. I like the pressure you put on PP both because of how you did it and where you put it. But it quickly passed into negative marginal returns. When i pointed that out though, you backed off, even when PP didnt. So overall, that gives you at least some town points.

but then you have the occasional post that i really dont like:

Spoiler:

Vote birds with me

He did ban me from the scum PT

UNVOTE: VOTE: Birds and boys

I still need responses from Votato before hes removed from my scum list

we are way past RVS here, and a wagon is forming. ill ignore the scumclaim both because youre talking to firebringer and because i scumclaim, including a couple times in this game iirc. this post seems so out of the blue. i didnt see any progression towards voting birds, and then there it is. maybe that comes if i read back further?

Okay, I'm back!
@DEB: "Failed Mason claim"? Did you not think it was obviously fake? What was the fail?

-Calvin

Do you still think we are scum?

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Could everyone give me their top 1-2 townreads?

-turducken

HoldenGolden

Farside is decently high still on my list. Most of the people who get close to the top posts something that pings me which is probably a sign that I need to loosen up from the gameplan I entered with.

Assuming how jj answers he can be promoted to townhood

here you deflect the question, not actually providing townreads. One townread that you dont commit to or provide reasons for, and then you say that you suspect everyone and cant come up with a townread.

ok based on votato alone all the way up to page 60

(because holden's posting could go either way and Dunn hasn't posted)

dunnstral is scum
votato's interactions with dunnstral feel very much like scum pushing scum
whereas votato's interactions with holden here feel much more substantial

[Miss Lane]

wow it's so bad that the people posting ai things are the people i don't care about

[Miss Lane]

It's not bullshit. How and why does anyone come up with this as a claim if they didn't get it as their role PM?

Because it's a Krazy game. That's how and why.

Krazy's safeclaims are woefully inadequate for a scumteam and encourage bullshit and this reeks of being precisely that sort of bullshit, the bullshit of someone who doesn't have a real safeclaim so improvised one from scratch.

inb4 mastina made the scum claim for votato

[Miss Lane]

dunn needs to post more b/c I'm getting a couple positive vibes from his ISO but not enough to drown out the cold lonely emptiness of this world

if you're worried about me may I again redirect you to the part where it's almost 12:30 AM

[Miss Lane]

Actually though: Bingle, Clover Ebi, Conspire, Dr Easy Bake, Birds and Boys, April Ludgate, Penguinpower, Votato.

That's my list, there's bound to be a lot of town in it.

I assume this is a list of players you think are towny?

[Miss Lane]

If every one of us moved to Dr Easy Bake, I think we have similar odds of lynching there as we do Votato.

Assuming jjh doesn't vote Votato, but does settle on Dr easy Bake.

His vote is notably absent here as well.

Thoughts?

Dunn votes mastina
then moves to votato because votato is scummier than mastina
then pushes DEB over both of them and at this point I'm not particularly convinced he ever really scum read mastina or votato, especially because the change in both time and post count from both mentioned parties is insignificant between Dunn's opinion change of them

[Miss Lane]

it's also remarkably convenient that he has three players he votes at day end, two of which are scum but the third is the one he tries to push through

[Miss Lane]

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