Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[Tuxedo Mask]

Or BM, and think with me here for a second, my stance is based on the fact I am the only new player left in an, as it was put, a newbie game full of experienced players before. I have not been in this situation before so I'm not going to argue with you being right or wrong, because I don't know. I will instead wait to see what all the experienced players have to say.

Also looking at the NK from my side, all it does is make me look really bad going into MYLO, which since I'm town is definitely something scum want.

[Battle Mage]

of course that is also possible. although nobody has pitched that argument yet, so I'd say less likely.

[Battle Mage]

and on a serious note, I'm following the teachings of the most experienced mafia player ever, the legendary mith, who built this place over 18 years ago. None of these folks can trump that!

[Battle Mage]

maybe Tux, you're stalling so you can come up with a plan with your scumbuddy, as I caught you off-guard and you didn't prepare properly last night?

[Nauci]

I'll do whatever town decides is best. Nauci you should unvote. You might be right but it's an unnecessary risk in Lylo. I don't think I trust BM's push.

This is pretty weak. "I'll do whatever town decides is best", in a game where you'd assume 2/5 other players would be scum, sounds a bit more like "I'll claim first if you absolutely force me to".

You are definitely top of my lynchpile at the moment, but a good claim might spare you.

Can you elaborate on why you switched to having Tuxedo as your top scum read from your reads yesterday?

[Blair]

I don't usually game theory this kind of thing, but I feel like the logical route here is for TPR to claim only if they have successfully detected scum

^ This is the correct play.

If you have caught scum, you should claim. If you have cleared town, find a way to crumb it in case you're killed.

Massclaiming in MyLo doesn't make sense. No Lynch is basically a foregone conclusion, so all you're doing is giving the Mafia more information to shop for their best LyLo tomorrow.

That said, if we were going to lynch anyone today, I am 100% sheeping Nauci's Dunnstral push. He deliberately shut down a forthcoming claim with a premature hammer. Don't let the fact that Gibus flipped VT distract you from what could have happened there.

[Blair]

Don't forget I *explicitly* pushed for us to expedite the wagon *so there would be time to claim.*

So Gibus gets run up to L-1, asks if he should claim, and

Dunnstral quickhammers.

[Nauci]

Don't forget I *explicitly* pushed for us to expedite the wagon *so there would be time to claim.*

So Gibus gets run up to L-1, asks if he should claim, and

Dunnstral quickhammers.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Joiiiiiiiiiiin meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Nauci]

I low key hate the way that Battle Mage is outright PR fishing but somehow putting all of the responsibility on Mith, even though the scenario has more factors at play than "we're at MYLO" like the number of existing claims, the newbie setup dynamics, and the freaking scumhammer

I do think that I feel a bit better about Blair for the reasons she already stated in 2056 but I'll feel even better if you help me build this wagon chica

I've got the wheels assembled, you wanna bring the horse?

[Blair]

I'm waiting for Dunnstral to mount a vigorous defense.

I'm more inclined to no lynch, for sure. He's welcome to incriminate himself and his partner further, though.

[Nauci]

How do you feel about Aloratom now?

[Aloratom]

Because it's mylo

As I asked BM, I want the logic behind it. But you knew that.

[Aloratom]

Because it's mylo

As I asked BM, I want the logic behind it. But you knew that.

Rather, you just rolled over and said yeah let's claim, knowing all it's going to do is out PRs.

[Aloratom]

Dunnstral is scum. Town controls the game. Barring a PR revelation, as noted above by Nauci and Blair, this game is in the books.

[Nauci]

Town controls the game.

?

[Aloratom]

We've got time to talk about it though.

[Nauci]

You know there's a 2nd one we have to catch though, right

[Aloratom]

Yes, but that's what we're going to talk about.

[Nauci]

I don't see why you're confident this game is in the books unless you have a much better picture of who the 2nd one is than I do

[Aloratom]

We don't have to know 100% today.

[Blair]

I feel better about Aloratom but mostly because I feel so strongly about Dunnstral.

Also, A+ to you Nauci if this is a deep bus.

[Nauci]

HAHAHAHAHA





Wait, you're serious?

Sorry - you wasted your time

Why don't you show us a game where you've ever done that as town then

[Nauci]

I feel better about Aloratom but mostly because I feel so strongly about Dunnstral.

Also, A+ to you Nauci if this is a deep bus.

Then why do you still not want to lynch today

[Aloratom]

I don't see why you're confident this game is in the books unless you have a much better picture of who the 2nd one is than I do

Regardless, I'm confident that I can mail the last one tomorrow or in lylo if it comes to that.

[Blair]

I feel better about Aloratom but mostly because I feel so strongly about Dunnstral.

Also, A+ to you Nauci if this is a deep bus.

Then why do you still not want to lynch today

We have no mislynches left. I would like our next lynch to be as well-informed as possible. One more night phase gives any Town PRs we have one more night to gather information. If we're lucky, they either catch scum or clear enough townies to solve in LyLo.

I prefer to win by day play but it would be unwise to forego the opportunity for PRs to solve.