Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[Tuxedo Mask]

I'm off to bed, can we not lynch before I've had time to pull my big dumb head from my big dumb ass. Thanks.

[Dunnstral]

claiming vt when I claimed you visited someone is a counterclaim, in fact.

[Nauci]

And let's not forget that freddie claimed vt. So no, you'd never be able to claim jailkeeper.

If you honestly believe scum can't play their way out of that...

You're essentially claiming a guilty on me. Every fiber of my being wants to counterclaim as scum. I grew up on EpicMafia.

...uh... are you saying that you must be town because if you were scum you would have counter claimed TPR and that even though your predecessor claimed VT you would have somehow managed to claim TPR and get Dunnstral lynched anyway, so therefore you are clearly town?

[Dunnstral]

Blair's argument is stinky

None of what she is saying holds up under scrutiny.

[Blair]

This entire phase hinges on whether or not people believe your claim. Full stop. No matter what I claim.

Claiming a power role would allow me to out the other power role. I'm not one of those "I only win if I survive to endgame" types, I'm a team player. That would be the winning move here.

I have to be a team player. This account has never survived to endgame. Won't this time either, because I'll be cleared and therefore dead when you flip scum.

[Blair]

No, Nauci, I'm town because Dunnstral tracked a VT.

I'm just pointing out, in addition to that, there is no scenario in which scum!Blair doesn't try to take another PR down with me here.

[Nauci]

There's a ton of time before deadline and I am in a fuck ton of pain today because my health sucks so I'm going to bed early and coming back tomorrow

Hopefully Tuxedo both figures out what's going on and can explain to us what he thought was going on by then -_-

[Tuxedo Mask]

Scum pair is Dunnstral and Battle Mage, they came into MYLO with an agenda they are pushing hard. Do not lynch Blair. If isn't Battle Mage it's Alortom.

[Blair]

Notice something really important, by the way:

In Dunnstral's claim, he leaves the door open for me to possibly be the Jailkeeper - even though he is now arguing that there is a 0% chance that anyone would ever believe that (wouldn't that implicitly include him?)

He was hedging his bets just in case I really was.

[Dunnstral]

He was hedging his bets just in case I really was.

If you claimed jailkeeper and nobody counter claimed, I would unvote you, yes. Why does that make me scum?

I don't think it's very likely at all for that to have happened, no - that's why I voted you

[Dunnstral]

Scum pair is Dunnstral and Battle Mage, they came into MYLO with an agenda they are pushing hard. Do not lynch Blair. If isn't Battle Mage it's Alortom.

Take a moment to think this through. Look at blair's arguments.

[Blair]

Scum pair is Dunnstral and Battle Mage, they came into MYLO with an agenda they are pushing hard. Do not lynch Blair. If isn't Battle Mage it's Alortom.

If you believe scum came into MYLO with an agenda for this exact scenario... wouldn't it make sense for Nauci to be a potential partner, too?

It's like the whole thing was scripted. Dunn comes in crying about how we're about to lynch him when only Nauci was suggesting that. Almost like the plan was for her to hard bus him out the gate so he could claim "under pressure." They either win by mislynching me today or Nauci wins by virtue of their hard distancing in the next phase.

[Blair]

^ This is an important post. Please read it.

[Tuxedo Mask]

Scum pair is Dunnstral and Battle Mage, they came into MYLO with an agenda they are pushing hard. Do not lynch Blair. If isn't Battle Mage it's Alortom.

Take a moment to think this through. Look at blair's arguments.

Yeah that's why I need to sleep and think. I feel the only thing my last few posts about you and Blair scum has mad clear is that I'm dumb. I plan to clear those other two things up tomorrow.

[Tuxedo Mask]

@Blair, I'm of the opinion the mass clam was the plan, and Nauci derailed it. The fake claim is an attempt to redirect things to that plan, but I am not close minded to Nauci scum. I'd just rather it wasn't.

[Blair]

Fair, that might be the cleaner play.

I would think they would want to out power roles and hard distance for LyLo. Depends on the players involved, though.

[Tuxedo Mask]

I also think the NK is to set me up. BBMolla wanted Me and Dunnstral killed. So why did BM come hard targeting just me and ignoring Durnn? Because the play was for mass claim, I claim VT and Drunn fake claims and they power lynch me for the win.

[Tuxedo Mask]

I SPELLED HIS NAME THREE DIFFERENT WAYS!

I gotta sleep. Sorry, goodnight.

[Dunnstral]

What do you mean? Bbmolla flipped town

[Blair]

I could see the case for Dunn/BM I guess. It is conspicuous how he suddenly moved me way up to #2 on his mass claim list. Dunn was around as well, and scum have daychat, so they may have been strategizing.

The fact that Dunn outright states he was gunning for me to claim before him and BM had already moved me up the list is interesting.

[Blair]

Dunn, you mentioned your breadcrumbs.

Feel free to share those anytime.

[Battle Mage]

If we're not massclaiming, I don't think it's helpful for me to share any further opinions today, and we can simply proceed to No Lynch. I think I have a good idea who the scumpair is.

Seriously though, wasting the opportunity to put scum on the backfoot and try and get some conf-towns ahead of LyLo (when we will presumably just get contested claims and may be unable to use any of the PR info, or our PR may just be dead) is incredibly lame. I'm disappointed in up to 60% of you.

[Blair]

We don't want scum to know who the conf towns are before LyLo, they'll use that information to craft LyLo to their advantage.

Why put all that information in the thread before we're ready to use it?

At this point we should probably

not

No Lynch, however, because we now know we have caught scum between Dunnstral and myself. Our odds of getting it right are higher when there are more living townies.

[Blair]

(Obviously, if you are a PR and you have information that clarifies the 1v1 between Dunnstral and myself, you should present it)

[Dunnstral]

Reminder that Blair scum has to try to lynch me today - no lynch isn't good for her