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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:38 am

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Vote count 4.1


Aloratom (2):
NorwegianboyEE, Madonna
midwaybear (1):
votato
votato (1):
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NDMath (1):
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not voting (3):
NDMath, popopopopopopo, Aloratom


with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 4 ends june 16th at 22:50 central US time; in (expired on 2020-06-16 22:50:00)


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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:11 am

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In post 1697, midwaybear wrote:I guess votato is conf town due to the madonna protect. I think we can safely say that all of our PRs+popo+me are town. That leaves alor, word, and madonna. This is good?
what exactly makes you or popo confirmed town?
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:13 am

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I like votatos idea. We have 1 block, 1 daykill and 1 nightkill to work with
In post 1697, midwaybear wrote:I guess votato is conf town due to the madonna protect. I think we can safely say that all of our PRs+popo+me are town. That leaves alor, word, and madonna. This is good?
No. 7po is not confirmed in the slightest. I checked ur case; u claimed to be baiting norway into contradiction, but u ended as one of the most suspicious players at D3. U could simply have done nothing that night JUST to claim vt.
Not only that, the way u handled it dsnt feel like u were hunting for a contradiction. Being a vt and being able to confirm urself as town, u should have tried to
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, and it ultimately didnt amount to nothing. I still think it looks defensive.

We need to choose our targets carefully. Kills r 100% ways of confirming someone; tracking too, but it is odd. Blocking isnt. Prior knowledge of block allows for the scumpartner to perform the kill instead, even if he was vigged.

If we look at cold facts, and assume everyone who claimed is telling the truth, then our true pool is {Madonna, Midwaybear, Word321, 7po, Aloratom}
From those, we can choose 2 to kill, but I suggest not disclosing who will be blocked; if we r correct in that there is no scum in the prs (wich is only rly plausible with a shenanigan like a prearranged 2 way claim by norway and albert, or some other 4d chess like that (but at this point im just willing to give up the game if that was the case)), then we have the following scenarios:
1. We kill both scum (10%)
2. We kill a scum, and block the other (10%)
3. We kill a scum, but fail to block or kill the other one (40%)
4. We kill 2 VTs, but block the Nk (20%)->Mylo
5. We kill 2 VTs, and dnt block the Nk (10%)->Lylo

Overall, odds r in our favor. This is assuming everyone will play according to the expectations; for this to work though, it is necessary for the block to be "random" (in the sense it cant be known; not necessaryly truly random); obviouysly we do need to say who dies beforehand, so we dnt end up blocking and killing the same player (And saving from the kill, since it is alien!))
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:20 am

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We need to have pre arranged night actions set up in case we lynch scum. If we lynch town then tracker and i can deviate for randomness
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:28 am

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tracker is odd, this is day 4
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:32 am

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ugh useless Norwegian
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:34 am

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Who was targeting who? Or are we doing it secretly?
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 1705, votato wrote:ugh useless Norwegian
It’s too hot today for me to make myself useful.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:35 am

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oh forgot about that
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 am

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kk VOTE: word
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 am

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oh that was an unvote meh, this could be a decent lynch anyway
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:47 am

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Vig midway and I'll alien alora if this flips scum.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:54 am

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I don't really think Word is the best lynch today.
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:56 am

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Aloratom's not nothing going for him. Why not just lynch there? Is anyone against the lynch?
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:03 am

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im ok with that lynch. i still think i prefer a midway lynch. i want to hear actual reads from midway. and i want to hear why midway thinks he and popo are conftown
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:05 am

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In post 1714, votato wrote:im ok with that lynch. i still think i prefer a midway lynch. i want to hear actual reads from midway. and i want to hear why midway thinks he and popo are conftown
Well, i did not see him target anyone last night. But he could still have a partner do it, or he used ninja ability.
Either way, it's giving me icky feelings that he's calling himself conf!town just based on that.
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:07 am

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Don't really townread Popopo anymore either.
@Midway Why is Popopo not in your PoE list?
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:23 am

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Pretty sure this is the optimal plan. We just have to decide who is which letter.
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A, B, C, and D represent Tom, midway, word, and Madonna in some order.

Hang A.
Math vigs B.
If A is scum, votato aliens C.
If A is town, votato doesn't say who they alien. (Not Math or B)

Hang [C/D]
Norwee tracks popo

Hang
-If this is 3p norwee is in a cc with someone.
-If this is 4p we have 2 kills in a pool of 3.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:26 am

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Why did you have to make your plan to confusing?
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:29 am

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Just getting my POE in so I don't get lost. {midway, popo, word}. More midway & popo. Have a funny feeling about Madonna, but I think votato is probably right in .
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:29 am

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I made it generic.

What part is confusing? Would it help if I labeled phases?
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:30 am

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wait I though popo was the one who first pushed nahdia(he even ended d1 with his vote on nahdia)
there's very very little chance he is scum
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:31 am

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A and B should be word and madonna in some order
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:32 am

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word and alor
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:34 am

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the popo point is fair

today's lynch should be me or midway
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