lange nonal 227 OHHH!!!! OHHH!!!!! ITS OVER OHHHHHH!!!! OHHH

[NorwegianboyEE]

the popo point is fair

today's lynch should be me or midway

...? Why would you accept your lynch if you know you are town?

[Aloratom]

the popo point is fair

today's lynch should be me or midway

...? Why would you accept your lynch if you know you are town?

I don't have to be alive for Town to win, right? This isn't lylo.

[Aloratom]

It might put us in a lylo position I guess.

[NorwegianboyEE]

the popo point is fair

today's lynch should be me or midway

...? Why would you accept your lynch if you know you are town?

I don't have to be alive for Town to win, right? This isn't lylo.

I don't think you're town right now. But if you are, that's a really crappy attitude.

[Aloratom]

How so?

[Aloratom]

If my death outs scum, that's a good thing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If my death outs scum, that's a good thing.

How does your death out scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Assuming you are town.

[midwaybear]

today's lynch should be me or midway

this line never comes from town
VOTE: Aloratom

[Aloratom]

If my death outs scum, that's a good thing.

How does your death out scum?

Is it going to lead to a solve and a win for Town? Yes. Now tell me how that's a crappy attitude.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah i wasn't going to say anything to see how he'd react. But that just screams "resigned scum" to me. Doesn't even bother putting up a pretense of solving anymore.

[votato]

i believe that has aloratom at L-2. we need to discuss our exact plan of night actions before we put anyone at L-1 or scum could quickhammer and make a mess.

[word321]

sure
my personal opinion (as in my "read") is {midwaybear, madonna, aloratom, 7po} in that order
I still think bear has been overly defensive and has won a free "get out of jail" card with norwee in a gratuitous way
I dnt find the consistent madonna ppl claim to see, and am not particularly satisfied with recent developments either since nahdias lynch.
and aloratom dnt have too much activity and has the last commentary; I can empathyze with the sentiment that since we cant rly prove our alignment, we must provide the best strategy to maximize winning rates to town, considering the possibility we r scum; but from there to

offering

urself as a lynch, it becomes antitown in purpose; its harder to arrive at that conclusion with that kind of thinking, and easier to do from the scum benefits it gives.
Either way, aloratoms suspiciousness is weak by the hard data, and he is also easily lynchbait for activity reasons.
if 7po is scum, he has played a good game.

But honestly, id rather decide everything by dices, as i think they r more impartial than humans. I dnt find any particular

hard

case on anyone except bear, and the criteria well use will be invariably compartive btw us and not objective evidence, wich heightens the chances of good scum staying alive (wich would presumably be the last ones to die eitherway).

[word321]

VOTE: Bear

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sigh, i KNOW Aloratom was in a newbie game with me not so long ago. So i think that could explain some of his bad takes. So i am tempted to vote Midway too.
It’s the battle of Midway over here, the lynch that decides the outcome of the game.

[votato]

so the three slots that most need sorting, objectively, are {word, aloratom, midway}. popopopo and madonna both have things that make it far less likely that they're scum. Given that we can sort three slots in this day/night phase, I vote that we sort those three. I don't much care which is the lynch vs vig vs alien. If the slot we lynch flips town I reserve the right to alien anyone on the playerlist, even PR claims. I will not be reconsidering that, and for obvious reasons, no one should ask me to, nor should there be any further discussion of the matter. I will obviously tell you who i targeted tomorrow. If we hit scum, i can commit with 90% certainty to targeting according to the plan, and with 100% certainty to not targeting the stated vig target. Tomorrow we can sort the rest out. unless there is a real deepwolf here or multiball, we should be reasonably close to an auto-win here. My personal preference would be to lynch midway, vig aloratom, and then have me alien word. But like I said, I don't much care between those three. I think it should largely be up to NDMath and norwee to decide, although input from others is welcome too. It may be worth considering which lynches and vigs to the most to help sort other slots. I'll leave that legwork to more mechanically-minded players.

[votato]

midway and aloratom and myself are all newbies to varying degrees. expect bad takes from all of us as either alignment. that said aloratom normally feels a bit different to me. midway is off from what i've seen of his recent meta, although hes learning so it might change.

[midwaybear]

pretty sure alor is scum because town doesn't just give up like that. That being said, I sorta get his attitude right now.
Still think he is the best hang.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If my death outs scum, that's a good thing.

How does your death out scum?

Is it going to lead to a solve and a win for Town? Yes. Now tell me how that's a crappy attitude.

What solve will it lead to?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And how confident are you on this?

[Aloratom]

If my death outs scum, that's a good thing.

How does your death out scum?

Is it going to lead to a solve and a win for Town? Yes. Now tell me how that's a crappy attitude.

What solve will it lead to?

If I knew that, I'd be arguing for the solve, wouldn't I? I wouldn't be waiting for you firecrackers to figure out which of us you're going to kill.

You still haven't answered my question. Or are you just going to keep answering with another question?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What question?

[votato]

norwee what are your takes on order of actions here?

[Madonna]

I think we are still waiting on popopopopopopo to vote or maybe intent to L-1 if we are hammer wary, but we really need to pick targets for the alien and vigilante so whatever the night results, we know where we stand. Or is it better to trust the power roles and do it quietly so scum cannot trust their own actions?

[votato]

i mean it would be cool if a neighborizer were to show up right about now. dont like that LAMIST post. thats pure IIoA.