Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[Raya36]

Random thought about Spring I had while writing that:

Does anyone think the interaction between SB and Spring could have been scum!Spring knowing that the quiz would fail and trying to stir up a mislynch? She was the one who made the quiz so shouldn't she feel somewhat ok about the players she chose being town? Seems odd that of all people she was the one who immediately started scumhunting within our 5. (Referring to the interaction with SB and also talking about her read on farside)

I felt that way, but I felt that way before game went to night.
It started here for me. It read like a set up from that point and I felt very wary of Spring after.

You were thinking that early then! Interesting how he says that SB is doing to him what we think he is doing to you and SB

It was why I was looking to someone else to see if anything going on with spring/SB made sense.

Now that I'm pretty sure there was scum on the team it does make a lot of sense to me. And the fact that we both came to the same conclusion separately supports that.

[Raya36]

Playerlist:

1) Albert B. Rampage
10) TrueSoulEnergy
11) midwaybear

Pick your poison; one of these players for the quiz, or are we recycling from the failed quiz?

Not Midway. Never Midway. TSE yes. ABR no unless everyone refuses to choose TSE. I think we can recycle one of the obvtown players and still be safe though?

[Raya36]

I'd like to see the quiz group made up of these players:

PB
Unwnd
Farside
TSE
Myself or Dunn

[Raya36]

Maybe Beeboy to replace the me/Dunn slot or TSE if we are 100% certain Unwnd can make his vote a pass

[Starbuck]

Seems odd that of all people she was the one who immediately started scumhunting within our 5. (Referring to the interaction with SB and also talking about her read on farside)

This is why I brought up that the tone of the whole Quiz PT changed the moment that spring entered the room with all her doom and gloom. It was such an odd way to enter a PT with people who you picked because you felt they were town.

or are we recycling from the failed quiz?

I'd be okay recycling to anybody but spring.

@farside she asked me about my read on midwaybear and then asked me about unwnd but not explicitly stating that he was being voted

I had asked if it was against site rules if she could relay what you said because then we'd effectively have a 6th voice to consider (even though you didn't have a vote).

Pink, what is your read on spring?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'd like to see the quiz group made up of these players:

PB
Unwnd
Farside
TSE
Myself or Dunn

It should be zero players from the last group.

[midwaybear]

But I chose Unwnd since I think he's town and we would gain a lot more info from him than we would giving it to Beeboy who was the alternative option.

What do you mean by this? Was his reaction EOD not enough to convince you he’s town?

Anyways, Raya is making me reconsider, so the only person I’m comfortable “recycling” would be farside. Remaining 3 can be me, unwnd, ND.

[Dunnstral]

Anyways, Raya is making me reconsider, so the only person I’m comfortable “recycling” would be farside.

More inconsistent reads; you gave me the chain yesterday because you townread me

[Raya36]

I'd like to see the quiz group made up of these players:

PB
Unwnd
Farside
TSE
Myself or Dunn

It should be zero players from the last group.

There arent enough players deserving of being on the quiz team outside of those 5. Besides chances are most of the last quiz team was town. Picking outside of it means we'll likely just end up with different scum. Recycling is ok.

[farside22]

Why?

Because I believe there's scum in the group and that's where I want players to focus today, and I want people to take stances

alright I can see that and I can see the info aspect as well.

I like this quiz group suggestion; except I still don't think beeboy should be on the quiz due to their role

Playerlist:

1) Albert B. Rampage
10) TrueSoulEnergy
11) midwaybear

Pick your poison; one of these players for the quiz, or are we recycling from the failed quiz?

Bleck!!
No one in hell ABR. God if I had to really chose I would say TSE, but I would like to blow my brains out after.

@farside she asked me about my read on midwaybear and then asked me about unwnd but not explicitly stating that he was being voted

okay thanks!

[Raya36]

But I chose Unwnd since I think he's town and we would gain a lot more info from him than we would giving it to Beeboy who was the alternative option.

What do you mean by this? Was his reaction EOD not enough to convince you he’s town?

Anyways, Raya is making me reconsider, so the only person I’m comfortable “recycling” would be farside. Remaining 3 can be me, unwnd, ND.

His reaction was town enough for me to be happy with him having the chain. But he's not as conf town and Beeboy is so we could still gain some useful info from him to make the town read even stronger or potentially weaker. There had to be a happy medium between choosing someone who we think is town and someone we think we could gain info from.

It will not be you and it will not be ND. ND has been lurking most of the game and you're extremely scummy

[midwaybear]

I think PB is fine too because of the reaction test.
@Raya We’re not going with the same group because then we’re going to fail again. Sure there might be a tamperer, but it’s still too risky
@Dunn so what

If you guys really don’t want me, then it can be {unwnd, Farside, PB, ND}
Pedit: ...

[Raya36]

I think PB is fine too because of the reaction test.
@Raya We’re not going with the same group because then we’re going to fail again. Sure there might be a tamperer, but it’s still too risky
@Dunn so what

If you guys really don’t want me, then it can be {unwnd, Farside, PB, ND}
Pedit: ...

I never suggested the same group at all. I had 2 confident town reads recycled, one as an alternative to myself since I know I'm town but a lot of people are doubting me now so I don't think I'll be back on the team.
I'm ok with Unwnd, Farside, PB, but not you and not ND

[midwaybear]

Ok, we’re deciding the quiz EOD anyways, so whoever really stands out as townie can get the last spot.

[springlullaby]

I read the rules after I sent my confirmation PM

[Albert B. Rampage]

You must take me on the quiz team.

[Albert B. Rampage]

since all the scum dont want me to go

[Albert B. Rampage]

In any case pass the chain quickly

[Dunnstral]

Ok, we’re deciding the quiz EOD anyways,

OK, thanks for letting us know

@unwnd so what are we actually doing with the quiz?

[Dunnstral]

You must take me on the quiz team.

since all the scum dont want me to go

This doesn't even make sense; even if you're town and on the quiz team, someone else can fail it, so why would scum specifically care about you getting on the quiz team?

[Dunnstral]

Springlullaby, remember that thing you talked about?

Scum being in the quiz group means that scum are aware of your argument

[springlullaby]

You think there is scum in the PT: yet you are pushing for two easy lynches which are 3/12 odd, rather than 1/5 odd. What gives?

I'll be the one to point out that 3/12 is technically better odds than 1/5

From Raya's pov if they are town it should actually be 3/11 and 1/4. This kind of stuff makes me lean scum, but could also be really young, not mathy at all. Also, zero people blink an eyelid blinked an eyelid at mistake in my percentages.

Btw, I think the mod designed the qt size with [one scum/qt members] inferior or equal to [max scum/n alive players]. Which makes the qt roughly equivalent as a scum-hunting environment.

Changing the team with all new players is just stupid because it's resetting the PoC.

[Dunnstral]

From Raya's pov if they are town it should actually be 3/11 and 1/4.

3/11 is still better odds than 1/4, though

[springlullaby]

Springlullaby, remember that thing you talked about?

Scum being in the quiz group means that scum are aware of your argument

Yes, a) it is technically possible that the group was interfered with tampering PR; b) there is such a thing called bussing, or simply scum mistake.

[springlullaby]

From Raya's pov if they are town it should actually be 3/11 and 1/4.

3/11 is still better odds than 1/4, though

I'm not arguing that? In the context of the discussion it just indicates to me that Raya isn't a mathy person, or agreed with me assuming I'm town.