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[Menalque]

I'm kinda hard townreading datisi now and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Why?

[Datisi]

I'm kinda hard townreading datisi now and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

pls elaborate

[skitter30]

I'm kinda hard townreading datisi now and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

i thought his reaction to mena's lock scumread of him was lowkey townie

[Bingle]

Oh, and also I am explicitly claiming not to be a commuter.

is this something that you think that everyone ought to claim?

God no. There are multiple people in this game that having an extra shroud of WIFOM about whether they're actually a commuter would be super helpful for as town. I'm just not one of those people.

[MariaR]

Btw none of the past six pages have anything strongly alignment worthy. Take that as you will.

[Bingle]

pls elaborate

You're either a super cheeky scumfuck or town at the moment and I don't remember you being crazy cheeky.

[skitter30]

i wasn't sure if the {i'm claiming not be commuter} followed from {if there's a commuter at least one ought to claim}
i.e. wasn't sure if you were trying to get everyone to claim {not commuter} to check if there was a commuter by default

idk if i manged to communicate what i was trying to say but i don't know if that actually matters
anyways gonna bounce for the weekend, so see y'all later

[gobbledygook]

I don’t think Bingle’s mech talk is beneficial to town at all actually.

[Bingle]

Also, if we get unanimous agreement could we theoretically maybe lower the deadline to 10 days?

Eh. I'm against it.

I don't think we should need 14 days, but I also prefer to lynch with more than 4 days left on the clock. If everyone else wanted a shorter deadline for some reason I wouldn't oppose it though.

[MariaR]

Oh wait sorry, this one thing is
VOTE: Bingle
Pedit: Nice

[Firebringer]

i am still claiming cop

[ofrhz]

I say we give bingle a few days of being alive despite his red role PM

Also,

if we get unanimous agreement could we theoretically maybe lower the deadline to 10 days?

Yes, if I receive a PM from everyone, then I will lower it to 10 days.

Please don’t feel obligated to use all 14 days however.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - if we all vote Scumgle then it won’t be 14 days.

[Bingle]

I understand what you're getting at, skitter, and it was a valid question. But no, there are definitely people in this list that I would prefer not be outed as commuter if there was another commuter to take that place.


And gobbles, I'm assuming you're referencing the idea that scum knowing whether hider/not hider is the case is useful for them in the case that we have a busdriver, but in actuality, a busdriver plays around all of the best town power roles the same way in this setup (Rolecop/GSmith/JK/Hider/Vig), so the additional scum knowledge of whether there is a hider or not is largely inconsequential in that case.

[gobbledygook]

Theoretically we should actually all crumb a person we are hiding behind at the end of the day to obscure any real hiders in plain sight.

[Bingle]

I mean - if we all vote Scumgle then it won’t be 14 days.

Yeah it will. There's no Scumgle in this game, birdboy.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - if we all vote Scumgle then it won’t be 14 days.

Yeah it will. There's no Scumgle in this game, birdboy.

[Firebringer]

yay is this a game where i get penguin gifs all game. I am now hyped.

[Bingle]

Theoretically we should actually all crumb a person we are hiding behind at the end of the day to obscure any real hiders in plain sight.

High risk, low reward.

Scum immediately knows any player who 'hid behind scum' is not the hider and hider results aren't 100% with JK/busdriver in the potential mix. That also provides a pretty decent road map to choose optimal nightkills.

[Bingle]

I mean - if we all vote Scumgle then it won’t be 14 days.

Yeah it will. There's no Scumgle in this game, birdboy.

Lynch Almost50 and together we can rule Antarctica as Penguin and some kind of weird bear thingy.

[gobbledygook]

Theoretically we should actually all crumb a person we are hiding behind at the end of the day to obscure any real hiders in plain sight.

High risk, low reward.

Scum immediately knows any player who 'hid behind scum' is not the hider and hider results aren't 100% with JK/busdriver in the potential mix. That also provides a pretty decent road map to choose optimal nightkills.

Would the results be 100% anyway even without this strategy?
Hides behind non scum still obfuscate the real hider and I fail to see how confirming the existence of a hider is any better than this?

[PenguinPower]

Lynch Almost50 and together we can rule Antarctica as Penguin and some kind of weird bear thingy.

[Pink Ball]

Btw none of the past six pages have anything strongly alignment worthy. Take that as you will.

Wrong. I'm hard townreading you from the past six pages

[Bingle]

Theoretically we should actually all crumb a person we are hiding behind at the end of the day to obscure any real hiders in plain sight.

High risk, low reward.

Scum immediately knows any player who 'hid behind scum' is not the hider and hider results aren't 100% with JK/busdriver in the potential mix. That also provides a pretty decent road map to choose optimal nightkills.

Would the results be 100% anyway even without this strategy?
Hides behind non scum still obfuscate the real hider and I fail to see how confirming the existence of a hider is any better than this?

Pseudoclaiming hider narrows down the hider pool drastically, and lets scum shoot someone who is more likely to be hidden behind.

Outing that there is/is not a hider in play lets us have early access to setup knowledge and means the hider doesn't have to worry about being lynched if they're forced to claim early, nor can scum easily fakeclaim hider should they need to.

Hider is one of the safest fakeclaims in the setup, in that it has a built in reason for not dying and a massive benefit for town. Commuter, similarly, is a fairly safe claim.

My strategy doesn't make the hider results any more trustworthy, but it does help with the potential for scum to abuse the absence of a hider, which is fairly likely.

[Menalque]

Have a good weekend skitt

@bingle if datisi is ever liable to be a cheeky scumfuck it’s probably this game

She’s also conspicuously absent rn