Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[springlullaby]

Look kids everyone has there own views. Not everyone is going to like what is going to be said and people see things differently. .
Doesn't make a person wrong or right. Just means things can be perceived differently.
It is best to communicate and if someone can't talk to you just walk away.

Btw, I'm evaluating you in the process here. Because I want to make sure that on my flip, there is the maximum of information possible.

[Pink Ball]

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PB has demonstrated that he uses ad hom as a manipulative technique.

What?

[springlullaby]

Lol I think I pushed the correct button

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11733357

[farside22]

I already said that Starbuck reads as tunneling and paranoid.

BUT, if Pink Ball is on the scum team, she is scum. Because PB has demonstrated that he uses ad hom as a manipulative technique.

That doesn't really answer the question as I have seen scum look paranoid and tunnel. I've seen town do the same.
I'm not even sure if I would call if manipulative since most players ignored it.

Look kids everyone has there own views. Not everyone is going to like what is going to be said and people see things differently. .
Doesn't make a person wrong or right. Just means things can be perceived differently.
It is best to communicate and if someone can't talk to you just walk away.

Btw, I'm evaluating you in the process here. Because I want to make sure that on my flip, there is the maximum of information possible.

Oh I will be dead way before that info becomes relevant. Besides I would say that most find mid and Abr scummy.
I just keep poking at you to see if I can change my views about your alignment and take my negative thoughts out. You make it very difficult to do so.

[springlullaby]

Please elaborate on your negative thoughts.
I don't know why you keep using the line "most people find X" like it is a relevant argument. Do you think all people finding Abr and mid scummy are town?

[Pink Ball]

Lol I think I pushed the correct button

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11733357

Do you even have the context of when I said that? I'm pretty sure I don't use ad hominem on purpose either as town or scum. I think I said that talking about my vote on Pine 'cause you liked it, that has nothing to do with ad hominem.

[Pink Ball]

I just read what I posted in that game before I said that in the scum thread and I did no ad hominems at all. I said you were town and that people pushing you was related to your personality instead of real scum hunting.

spring if you want me to be scum, you do you, but don't lie.

[farside22]

Please elaborate on your negative thoughts.
I don't know why you keep using the line "most people find X" like it is a relevant argument.

Do you think all people finding Abr and mid scummy are town

?

You seem to over emphasis things and hold onto things that escalate. Like a small thing because this towering inferno of crazy.
You become this auto repeat about Ad hom, saying I'm siding with SB. Things like that are just weird.
I state what I see. You take it as "siding with" putting yourself as an ad hom.
A player says boo and you would be accusing them of being a ghost instead of joking around. Everything is bigger then it really is and I find many things you say a bit of a reach to find something scummy.
I mean look at your question in bold.
I didn't say that. I was commenting about your comment about your flip, like barely anyone has said you are scum spring! So I was replaying to your view of flipping being relevant.
I don't think you are paying attention to your own words.
All those things is in my view adding up as a negative.

[Raya36]

Although that said the recent analysis about the plan with spring seemed town

Raya, do you mind me telling you something?

Go for it

I can't make up my mind on you.
I think you are full on sheeping on all your reads.
And you reasonings are bad.
How old are you?

I'm definitely not sheeping, and I'm doing my best with my reasoning. I did end up reaching the same conclusion as you, I just missed an important point.
How is my age relevant?

[Raya36]

Also Spring, keep in mind that you've been here since 2008. I've been here since 2017, with massive gaps. I'm genuinely doing my best, I'm not a mechanics oriented player and I'm not a pro scumhunter but I'm trying.

[springlullaby]

Please elaborate on your negative thoughts.
I don't know why you keep using the line "most people find X" like it is a relevant argument.

Do you think all people finding Abr and mid scummy are town

?

You seem to over emphasis things and hold onto things that escalate. Like a small thing because this towering inferno of crazy.
You become this auto repeat about Ad hom, saying I'm siding with SB. Things like that are just weird.
I state what I see. You take it as "siding with" putting yourself as an ad hom.
A player says boo and you would be accusing them of being a ghost instead of joking around. Everything is bigger then it really is and I find many things you say a bit of a reach to find something scummy.
I mean look at your question in bold.
I didn't say that. I was commenting about your comment about your flip, like barely anyone has said you are scum spring! So I was replaying to your view of flipping being relevant.
I don't think you are paying attention to your own words.
All those things is in my view adding up as a negative.

I put "siding" in quote.
Because I don't think Starbuck is as obtown as you make it out to be. And since your read doesn't align with mine, I'm pushing you to know why. Is that bizarre to you?

Small things? What is your threshold of small and big? That line is entirely disingenuous.

I'm putting emphasis on why your reason for reading me as scum is bad because if Starbuck is tunneling town, then she is also more easy to manipulate for scum.
If Starbuck is town, you are encouraging paranoia and tunneling. It's a chainsaw attack.

And I want it out there.

[springlullaby]

How is my age relevant?

If you tell me you're 13, then my threshold for bad logic and error get larger.

[Raya36]

I am not a teenager. That should be enough

[Starbuck]

And you were talking about using ad hominem? How rude.

I asked her if she minded.
Do you have a point Starbuck beside ad hominem?

I mistyped. I meant to say "And you were talking about me using ad hominem?"

The "How old are you?" isn't needed or appropriate.

I don't like your rudeness. Hence, why I haven't been responding to you.

[Starbuck]

I just keep poking at you to see if I can change my views about your alignment and take my negative thoughts out. You make it very difficult to do so.

Welcome to my world.

[Starbuck]

This is how I view spring, FYI.

[springlullaby]

@mod: please stop the ad hom. Thanks.

1) I'm not rude.
2) If you don't want to speak to me, that's fine, but why do you come in the game for the sole and unique purpose of speaking to me?

Starbuck=scum.

[Starbuck]

Again, what ad hom? I'm specifically referring to your actions in game. Not you as a person. You really need to look it up.

[Starbuck]

And what the gif is illustrating is that I think you're flailing. Again, an attack on your game play and not on you as a person. Like I said in the Quiz PT, I'm not attacking you by saying that your guilty pleasure is MMMBop on repeat. I'm solely pointing out issues in what you are saying about the game and how you are acting in the game.

I'm not attacking you like ABR went after me. You're scummy and you're continuing to be scummy and you aren't changing my mind by continuing to act so infantile.

[beeboy]

[midwaybear]

what happened in the PT? Can someone give an unfiltered unbiased summary?
I've heard stuff about Raya hammering unwnd, and now stuff about spring.

[Starbuck]

what happened in the PT? Can someone give an unfiltered unbiased summary?
I've heard stuff about Raya hammering unwnd, and now stuff about spring.

I had made a joke about things being entertaining if I had been chosen as chainleader. Spring took that joke and just severely overreacted to the point of distraction about it. It got to the point where even Dunn asked me what my intentions were and I had none. I just didn't know why Spring was stuck on such an insignificant thing. Unless she was trying to drive home a mislynch on me today? I don't know, but it definitely hasn't pulled me back to having her as a town read.

farside had even said something to spring before I got back to the thread, regarding me joking, because farside knew I was being flippant.

It was weird because we were having a great back and forth trying to discuss who would be best to choose as the next chainleader, and spring came into the thread (much like she did on Day 1 after being absent from the thread for ages) and the feel of the thread went from quite jovial to quite contentious very fast.

[Starbuck]

Then there's the whole her just nonstop accusing me of ad hominem when I'm not attacking her personally. I'm discussing her actions within the thread, which is fair game. I don't have anything personal against spring, but she's ultra defensive and acting so weird. I can't figure it out.

[Pink Ball]

Oh so this ad hominem shit had nothing to do with me but I was included because of spring's tunnel on me. Ok, nothing to see here.

[Starbuck]

Oh so this ad hominem shit had nothing to do with me but I was included because of spring's tunnel on me. Ok, nothing to see here.

I had asked in the Quiz PT if spring could relay your thoughts and she started building a case, even saying that you're a manipulative scum player and that your USER NAME is even manipulative because she thinks you chose your user name to influence the games you are in.

There's so much reaching and flailing with her. I don't know what to do with it.