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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:06 pm

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Haven’t been paying attention so I’ll do this again.

VOTE: Modwaybear
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:07 pm

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In post 1899, Starbuck wrote:
In post 1898, Pink Ball wrote:Oh so this ad hominem shit had nothing to do with me but I was included because of spring's tunnel on me. Ok, nothing to see here.
I had asked in the Quiz PT if spring could relay your thoughts and she started building a case, even saying that you're a manipulative scum player and that your USER NAME is even manipulative because she thinks you chose your user name to influence the games you are in.

There's so much reaching and flailing with her. I don't know what to do with it.
I don't know why she got that perception of me. I'm adorable.

And yeah she told me about that thing about my username lol
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:08 pm

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Why is TSE assuming that Unwnd is going to pass him the chain? Like his general not paying attention to the game state is odd.
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:09 pm

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In post 1900, springlullaby wrote:
In post 1881, Pink Ball wrote:I just read what I posted in that game before I said that in the scum thread and I did no ad hominems at all. I said you were town and that people pushing you was related to your personality instead of real scum hunting.

spring if you want me to be scum, you do you, but don't lie.
Lol.

You were scum when you made that "people scumreading me is related to my personality" statement.
That is ad hom in itself, because as scum, you suggested to town that there was something wrong with my personality to explain the fact that people were scumreading me.

> I antagonize plenty of people when I'm town in game. It's an artefact of scumhunting, because many players are on survival mode when they are town. Or take criticisms of reasoning personally.
> The next level is faking the anger and defensiveness when someone call a statement of theirs bad, to make oneself seems genuine, as scum. Because people who tend to read
any
emotional feedback as genuine and associate that with being town.

That is why I asked the questions I asked, out of Starbuck.
She's been around, and she knows the drill.
That's not ad hominem, you're including the part of "something wrong with my personality". I explicitly said that because you were being very straightforward and asking for leadership, people felt like you could be scum. That's not "something wrong with your personality", that's a playstile thing.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:09 pm

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Good Ones
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Meh Ones
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Scum Ones
Albert B. Rampage - (Clears Farside and Starbucks)
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:11 pm

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is him requesting for replacement NAI then?
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:11 pm

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In post 1915, springlullaby wrote:
In post 1906, midwaybear wrote:how is "pink ball" manipulative?
because it has postive associations?
Yes, look at my avatar for more than 10 seconds (it's an avatar I made for this site at the beginning of my maf play).
Plus, there are many many alt accounts on this site for the express purpose avoiding meta, or impersonation, for the express purpose of a more favorable outcome.

> How avatar and username being potentially manipulative is being treated as a polemic subject is beyond me.
It's not a polemic subject, it's just ridiculous. At least for my case.
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:13 pm

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In post 1955, midwaybear wrote:is him requesting for replacement NAI then?
Idk it could be alignment indicative but he could be just be upset with a scum team or genuinely feel the inability to vote just fucks over his ability to win the game. Feels like out of game info to read into >_> but it's allowed so do what you want.
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:16 pm

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In post 1951, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1899, Starbuck wrote:
In post 1898, Pink Ball wrote:Oh so this ad hominem shit had nothing to do with me but I was included because of spring's tunnel on me. Ok, nothing to see here.
I had asked in the Quiz PT if spring could relay your thoughts and she started building a case, even saying that you're a manipulative scum player and that your USER NAME is even manipulative because she thinks you chose your user name to influence the games you are in.

There's so much reaching and flailing with her. I don't know what to do with it.
I don't know why she got that perception of me. I'm adorable.

And yeah she told me about that thing about my username lol
Yeah, so again, I don't get her constant overreactions to things that don't affect the game state. I'm literally just recalling some of the inane things she's been bringing up. It's just been one after another after another and there doesn't seem to be a coherent thought within any of it.

I'm almost wondering if she's at the point of overthinking everything (if she really is considering folks' user names as being manipulative) that she's just frustrating herself. I know that's probably putting me on the brink of being accused of ad hominem AGAIN. But it's just the way of it. Her consistent distractions aren't helping.

In any case, we all know my position here and we should focus on fleshing out this Quiz Team discussion.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 1953, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1900, springlullaby wrote:
In post 1881, Pink Ball wrote:I just read what I posted in that game before I said that in the scum thread and I did no ad hominems at all. I said you were town and that people pushing you was related to your personality instead of real scum hunting.

spring if you want me to be scum, you do you, but don't lie.
Lol.

You were scum when you made that "people scumreading me is related to my personality" statement.
That is ad hom in itself, because as scum, you suggested to town that there was something wrong with my personality to explain the fact that people were scumreading me.

> I antagonize plenty of people when I'm town in game. It's an artefact of scumhunting, because many players are on survival mode when they are town. Or take criticisms of reasoning personally.
> The next level is faking the anger and defensiveness when someone call a statement of theirs bad, to make oneself seems genuine, as scum. Because people who tend to read
any
emotional feedback as genuine and associate that with being town.

That is why I asked the questions I asked, out of Starbuck.
She's been around, and she knows the drill.
That's not ad hominem, you're including the part of "something wrong with my personality". I explicitly said that because you were being very straightforward and asking for leadership, people felt like you could be scum. That's not "something wrong with your personality", that's a playstile thing.
Ahem.
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:30 pm

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Ok, Starbuck is very insistant on being dismissive of me.
I wonder why.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:32 pm

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ngl sometimes I feel like I am the only one enjoying this game lmao
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:34 pm

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I'm enjoying it too.
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:53 pm

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Chain Order 2.0
unwnd
(1)
- unwnd >

Chainless:
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- Albert B. Rampage, Dunnstral Raya36, Starbuck, Pink Ball, farside22, , NDmath, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear, beeboy


Quiz Team 2.0
Purposed Team
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unwnd, NDmath, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy


Approve
(1)
- TrueSoulEnergy

Decline
(1)
- beeboy

Not voting:
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- Albert B. Rampage, Dunnstral Raya36, Starbuck, Pink Ball, farside22, unwnd, NDmath, midwaybear, springlullaby


Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-06-18 00:17:43)
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 1952, Starbuck wrote:Why is TSE assuming that Unwnd is going to pass him the chain? Like his general not paying attention to the game state is odd.
Ah so she hasn’t past it yet.
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Why the shade bro?
If he does pass me the chain, ima make sure you don’t get one.
Heck even if I don’t get it I’ll gladly be in the F2 with you so not only can I remove a mafia but also become chain leader the next day along with night Immunity.
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:18 pm

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Thing is.
Look at people’s reactions towards Unwnd
It can be telling towards a town and a scum reaction.
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:19 pm

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I do however agree with Beeboy that ABR and Starbuck are never TvT.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 1960, springlullaby wrote:Ok, Starbuck is very insistant on being dismissive of me.
I wonder why.
Because they are scum.

Also flipping Starbuck also lock towns Spring which makes it very clear that Farside is Starbucks’s partner.
(Not really but it narrows the PoE down and points allot to that possibility)
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 1950, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Haven’t been paying attention so I’ll do this again.

VOTE: Modwaybear
Because Starbuck plays bad if they are scum.
We win this and scum can thank Starbuck for their lost.
@Starbuck maybe next time don’t spew TvS Interactions so much.
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It spews Myself, Spring and Almost ABR as Town.
Which is fuckin good.
I’ll have to look into their ISO to see if they spewed anyone else town.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:24 pm

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The more people in the town Core the better.

Tip of advice to players.
Focus on a Town Core then contently scum reading someone.
You can Scum Read a few but try and focus on confirming spew Town.
The less PoE the better.
If done correctly almost always confirms a town victory assuming everyone does it properly or they follow the one who is doing it.
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:26 pm

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Let’s assume Starbuck flipped Mafia already.

Lock Town
Midwaybear
Spring

Almost Always Town
ABR
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:26 pm

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Well thank goodness I'm not on the scum team.

You have all these "this, this, this, and this will happen when Starbuck flips scum" but Starbuck flipping ain't flipping scum. So what's your plan when I flip town, TSE?

Also, it's real strange that you ignored me for the majority of Day 1 and all of a sudden on Day 2, I exist to you now?
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:27 pm

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Alternatively Lynching Starbuck here and they flip scum makes it so we win here 100% of the time.
The PoE should always be accurate here making us have a 2/3 chance of lynching scum the next day.
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:29 pm

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I know I said I wasn't going to chainsit but I want to see more responses to the quiz before I pass the chain. The problem we made last time is that we passed the chain before the quiz was finalized, and then somehow people were compliant and said 'oh we can't lynch them'.

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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 1971, Starbuck wrote:Well thank goodness I'm not on the scum team.

You have all these "this, this, this, and this will happen when Starbuck flips scum" but Starbuck flipping ain't flipping scum. So what's your plan when I flip town, TSE?

Also, it's real strange that you ignored me for the majority of Day 1 and all of a sudden on Day 2, I exist to you now?
I was focused on Cake and Unwnd.
Nice shade though. Looks nice for me after your scum flip.

This is also something I see scum saying more then Town but fine let’s play your game.

If by some chance you flip Town.
ABR, Spring and PinkBall go into PoE
Whoever had a TvT interaction with you (I admit I honestly ain’t paying much attention to that when I should)
Will be removed from PoE if In the PoE.
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