Mini Normal 2146: Cute Pets Game Over, Town wins

[CooLDoG]

*day1

[CooLDoG]

Agar's theory is trash. And isn't a theory. Get in line and vote hoopla.

[renaissance]

Have you played with Hoopla before?

[notscience]

Cooldog can you please explain like I’m five? I’m trying to understand what you’re saying.

Was your comment asking why I was on the gyp wagon?

[CooLDoG]

Wait are you saying that it’s useless to vote gyp until we have a traitor flip?

Pedit

Cooldog I literally have no clue what you’re getting at

you said you wanted to vote for espe, and agar was not on the wagon. I don't know what you are talking about. There is no reason provided for voting for espe.

[Hiraki]

CD, you're right but i would rather not focus on that today and would rather something takes him out at night (if it exists or we come back to it another day) - i want to lynch scum, not traitors

[CooLDoG]

Have you played with Hoopla before?

I don't know. Probably way back... why does that matter? Scum is scum.

Cooldog can you please explain like I’m five? I’m trying to understand what you’re saying.

Was your comment asking why I was on the gyp wagon?

absolutly not. I'm asking why you want to ship your vote to espe. Especially given the people on it giving no real reason for the wagon...

CD, you're right but i would rather not focus on that today and would rather something takes him out at night (if it exists or we come back to it another day) - i want to lynch scum, not traitors

huh? why and who mentioned trying to lynch traitors other than Gyphx on page 1/2?

[AGar]

@agar, so you think gobble is bussing gyphx, but you don't want to lynch gyphx.... hmmm... And your day scum read is based upon an association tell that hasn't barred fruit yet. great.

Go back and reread my post before you make a further ass of yourself.

My scumread is based on more than an associative tell. But that’s too much critical thinking for one day for you.

[brassherald]

At this point, I'm just going to have one vote count today at about 5ish. Morning one has been missed

[CooLDoG]

Yeah with your "scumhunting" style, I'm not gonna really buy into your hype. This looks a lot like trying to start up a bus.

This is the only reason given for voting for him. This is obviously an association tell. So, yeah. dumb or scumb. you decide.

[CooLDoG]

Yeah, Agar is just full of himself and thinks he has cracked the game. Don't think he is scum.

Hikari is trying to sheep me which also dumb as hell....

Hoopla is probably scum. Parama also posts nothing content and insists on rehashing bullshit. That's more scummy than the dummies.

[Hiraki]

I'm trying to sheep you?!?! Dude take a fucking walk lol - I said everything you said before you. Just because I didn't explain it doesn't mean I didn't call it out.

[CooLDoG]

now that I think about it, espe also falls into the same category as parama, except he does it more obviously. Actually posts sweet nothings. At least parama knows how to use the quote button to cover it up. I will say,if espe is scum, his d1 strat is excellent. Make a bold entrance with a bullshit meme claim and then coast off of being the center of attention in the earlygame. With such insightful posts as

145 "Gobbles/CD/Hoopla is scumteam, ok lets go home."
252 " wanted to vote CD. Shrug, looped in notsci bc why not. // But like I haven't been ignoring the question. I've been ignoring the game period."

Yeah. Openly admits to ignoring the game after he basically started the early game discussion. Real town play going on here for sure.

264is also a great example of saying nothing at all, "You weren't in my scum list friendo"

top tier town play here. He ain't even bothering to put up the facade of "town hunting". He just is active lurking and admits it. His last substance post was 99

[CooLDoG]

The main take away is hoopla is still scum. Espe is also understandably scummy for not posting content. both are scummy. And hikari needs to stop sheeping me, obviously.

[CooLDoG]

CooLDoG we are going to run these scumboys into the GROUND

vote hoopla dude.

[CooLDoG]

@agar, so you think gobble is bussing gyphx, but you don't want to lynch gyphx.... hmmm... And your day scum read is based upon an association tell that hasn't barred fruit yet. great.

Go back and reread my post before you make a further ass of yourself.

My scumread is based on more than an associative tell. But that’s too much critical thinking for one day for you.

I actually re-read your post for a third time. You spend most of your time attacking me, and then you attack goobles for bussing. Great work on the theory dude. This type of post pisses me off because you are clearly trying to re-write history here.

[CooLDoG]

renessance iso read:

Spoiler:

Also, I don't like the Dog for the way he's reading the N1 vig claim. Why do you have a premise that town would never fakeclaim on day 1, you never seen that happen before?

clearly doesn't understand what good and bad town play is, and why espe is scummy. Although, espe didn't start to coast till later, so I'll give it a pass. Only bad players fake claim in the first post and actually stick to it as town. Plus, vig is the easiest scum fake claim to pick...


asks good questions in 173 /177

For the most part? I try to put a lot of emphasis on being transparent. You’re welcome to check my game history for a meta read to piss off cooldog, but other than an ongoing I haven’t played recently.

I used to be really good at being transparent and as I’m back I’m trying to refocus on that. Basically used to just town it up, figure out who of the people I’m used to playing with a lot is town, and work with them to sort everything out. Since I’ve been back there hasn’t really been anyone I’m used to playing with so I lost that side of my play so I frankly could be overcompensating on the other side.

Interesting, that sounds like a fun philosophy. What do you do when you roll scum then? I'd imagine it'd be difficult to replicate the same level of transparency.

is using a bullshit meta reason to abdicate not sci of being scummy.

Not a fan of Hiraki's mass confusion in 78. I don't get why he's so befuddled at the Hoopla-related matters.

thinks being confused is scummy. By that logic he should vote for agar and notscience for not understanding my very clearly written posts which reveal the truth of the situation. Also this is a soft defense of hoopla. Strange that you would be soft defending people early in D1.

Eh, I'm out of time actually. I liked notscience's recent interactions with me a little.

VOTE: gobbled

I'm just gonna park here with some townreads for now.

Pedit: I'll be back later!

Has no scum reads and parks a vote for no reason on page 8, where he should have atleast one scum read by now.

Oh wait, this is better.

VOTE: CoolDog

immediatly realizes he did throw shade at someone and has to change his vote to reflect that.

Ok so my thoughts are that I would expect town who believes the claim to go, ok cool good to know. It's bit wifom-y so imma leave it to later or just err on the side of randomness.

Scum however I would expect to look at it as part of the puzzle to solve. As if it is true it can mess with their play / be used as a tool to hide behind. Especially since that was immediately where CD's thoughts went. I think if you think, how can scum use this it would generally be a pretty strong indicator that you are scum.

I expected people to at least attempt to read between the lines but whatever I can spell everything out.

I however on the opposite side don't like this weird as chainsaw shit going on with gobbles either, so there's that too.

This is why I like Espeonage.

likes espe for one of his early posts and completely ignores his play as of late.

I appreciate the invitation to the townbloc, Hoopla. I recieved your letter by post and was quite surprised to find a cake attached to it. It was delicious.

buddies with hoop while posting no contento.

Have you played with Hoopla before?

asks dumb meta question to soft defend hoopla again.

@renaissance, why do you defend hoopla, and why do you think she is town?

[CooLDoG]

A hoopla, renaissance, espe scum team. That's what I think might be going on here. I bet this is the ticket. You got the cryptic nothing poster. The active lurker. And the defender. Perfect scum team.

See agar, that's a legit theory right there. A++, 10/10, two thumbs, 5 star theory.

[AGar]

Yeah with your "scumhunting" style, I'm not gonna really buy into your hype. This looks a lot like trying to start up a bus.

This is the only reason given for voting for him. This is obviously an association tell. So, yeah. dumb or scumb. you decide.

Yeah, no I told you to re-read because I don't think Gobble is trying to bus gypyx you stain.

P-Edit:

We agree on at least one member of the scumteam. Gratz. Almost like I've even said that before responding to YOUR QUESTION.

[CooLDoG]

whatever dude. You are making a d1 vote on an association tell. That's garbagio.

[CooLDoG]

you should vote hoopla though. Much, much better wagon.

[AGar]

Honestly, I'm waiting on an updated VC before I push forward on trying to gain steam on a Gobble wagon. There's more to it, but I'm just lazy and want to see where things lie. CBF to do my own VC. *shrug*

[UnaBombaH]

@Umbreon: You're right about the wiki layout, but why do you think knowing traitors are normal is the same thing as knowing "how common they are"? Something might be normal, but that doesn't tell you how often they're included by mods.

I'm not sure what more I can say on this, and I honestly do not feel like doing it anymore either. But.
WHY did he feel the need to ask how common they are?
He can see it from the Normal Guidelines that they EXIST, that is all the relevant information.
If they are ultra-rare - so what?
If they are in almost any game - so what?
Instead of immediately coming out with their "theory" on scum!Espe (it was Espe right?) based on an assumption of a Traitor, they felt the need to ask how common they are first.
So, why?

They felt like making a post with the sole purpose of mentioning a "traitor"?
Or they DIDN'T check the wiki at all - which raises the question why so many already assumed they had checked the role there and therefore mentioning it isn't scummy at all...

[CooLDoG]

If traitors were in every game or almost every game, the town should hunt for them.

[Hiraki]

CooLDoG we are going to run these scumboys into the GROUND

vote hoopla dude.

Unvote, Vote: Hoopla

bonus

what post is that?

I basically agree with 242.