Mini 2144: Yu-Gi-Oh Card UPick Game Over - Good Cards Win.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Jake

Havinf them both at l1 is more fun. So. There.

This is weird though.

Why would you, as town, want 2 people at L-1? That just gives scum the oppertunity to hammer one or the other and get away with it.

[Elsa Jay]

Because if this is you being scum and getting jjh hung as town then we get you next. If jjh flips town after confirming I'm a Parity Cop, then we know your lying. Similarly if you flip town then we know JJH is scum and hang him tommorow.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Because if this is you being scum and getting jjh hung as town then we get you next. If jjh flips town after confirming I'm a Parity Cop, then we know your lying. Similarly if you flip town then we know JJH is scum and hang him tommorow.

So basically you're giving scum the chance to mislynch one town, 100% of the time.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I wanted everyone to give a Readlist of everyone alive but people vetoed that idea.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@mod

Is there a mistake in vote count #10?

oh yeah. My bad it’s 3. But now it’s 4.

[Porkens]

What’s the correct count? I still haven’t been able to reread in depth but feels like we about to make a mistake just gutting

[JacksonVirgo]

jjh is at L-1
wolfie is at L-2

[Oronoko]

I’ll review in the morning and make a post. Totally side tracked. I hate posting from my phone so when I get on the laptop it will be easier to post.

[jjh927]

Because if this is you being scum and getting jjh hung as town then we get you next. If jjh flips town after confirming I'm a Parity Cop, then we know your lying. Similarly if you flip town then we know JJH is scum and hang him tommorow.

So basically you're giving scum the chance to mislynch one town, 100% of the time.

This is kinda an odd response imo

This is very much a 1v1
Which sides people take is extremely important. Having both of us at L-1 doesn't take away the wagons, and anyone who quickhammers is highly likely to be scum regardless of who flips what

[jjh927]

Wait why is Jake butting heads with Elsa at all

Elsa should be conftown from Jake's POV

[Jake The Wolfie]

Wait why is Jake butting heads with Elsa at all

Elsa should be conftown from Jake's POV

How so? Exactly one of you or Elsa is scum.

[jjh927]

Yeah and I confirmed Elsa is a parity cop

[jjh927]

You're playing pretty optimistically there tbh

You're not gonna be able to mislynch Elsa after I flip
Parity cops aren't scum

[acryon]

Catching up on the 5 pages I missed.

[acryon]

Ngl if I'm gonna be mislynched in another game, I'll be glad if it's this one

Not gonna fight this very hard

If you're town you should probably fight here.

Wait why is Jake butting heads with Elsa at all

Elsa should be conftown from Jake's POV

How so? Exactly one of you or Elsa is scum.

Agreed with jjh that this feels odd. You know one of A and B are scum. B is saying A is conftown to them. So B has to be scum for you.

I haven't played a ton of role-madness, but it certainly doesn't

feel

right that a role like Jake's and Elsa's would both exist and be on the same side. And I also don't see jjh as scum here. As Porkens pointed out as well, I'm still not sure why as scum you would ever admit to stealing Elsa's results there.

Jake's play today is very odd to me. Maybe it wouldn't be so different even if he was telling the truth, but it rubs me the wrong way that he basically ignored me yesterday when I pushed him, presumably because he knew there wasn't time for anything to happen to him, but today he seems like he's fighting for his life. And this is such a strong fakeclaim for scum... If we believe him, then we have to follow his lead through a possible two lynches, so as scum he is guaranteeing

two

mislynches.

Isn't the optimal play here for us to lynch Jake? If Jake is lying and we follow him, we risk two mislynches. If he is telling the truth and we lynch him, then he is the only mislynch, because jjh is confscum.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah that's possible but honestly leaving JJ alive means he can steal and lie about my results again as scum. But ehh. Your call.

[acryon]

Yeah that's possible but honestly leaving JJ alive means he can steal and lie about my results again as scum. But ehh. Your call.

That's true, but I would personally take a maximum one mislynch before getting scum vs. possible two mislynches before getting scum. I hate to say it but you're probably dead tonight either way

[Porkens]

You're playing pretty optimistically there tbh

You're not gonna be able to mislynch Elsa after I flip
Parity cops aren't scum

Slip!

VOTE: jjh927

[Porkens]

Or wait, no I misunderstood what you were saying sorry

VOTE: unvote. I don’t think it’s either JJ or Jake

[acryon]

Or wait, no I misunderstood what you were saying sorry

VOTE: unvote. I don’t think it’s either JJ or Jake

It has to be though.

Jake has a claimed guilty on one of Elsa/jjh. If Jake is telling the truth, then it basically has to be jjh because jjh is claiming Elsa is conftown from his position. If Jake is lying, then he is scum. There is some weird corner-case where one or more of the people involved misunderstood their information, but that doesn't seem likely.

[Elsa Jay]

jjh is at L-1
wolfie is at L-2

You're playing pretty optimistically there tbh

You're not gonna be able to mislynch Elsa after I flip
Parity cops aren't scum

Slip!

VOTE: jjh927

God Damnit Porkens.

[Porkens]

I invited so it shouldn’t count!

[Porkens]

I invited so it shouldn’t count!

Unvoted

[Elsa Jay]

That's not how it works friend and you know it. Atleast on MS.

[Porkens]

I’m preeeeety sure the mod will be a sweetheart about it no?