Micro 944: A Normal Blitz III - Game Over

[inutile]

i admit, I'm scumreading Ame, but your "pondering here" and your hesitation to explicitly say that this is scummy and leaving us to infer for ourselves that it's scummy makes me have an epiphany myself. Just pondering this.

you said something similar to me earlier. why is it scummy for us to not be 100% sure whether or not something is scummy? by extension, is popopopopopopo towny for the confidence with which he declared exemplar scum?

[inutile]

yeah i dont know how to read this slot, and I'm not open to lynching it right now. why is bugs scum and not town?

i don't know about bugspray. i have played at least two games with town!bugspray and at least one game with scum!bugspray and i couldn't tell you with much confidence which this is more similar to. they disappeared for a time in blitz i and mystery box and they lurked for a good portion of reservoir dogs but this feels sparser than any of those. i do think your lack of a stance on the entirety of bugspray's posts is noteworthy when considered next to you finding it scummy that farside was pondering the pr claim/replace out instead of outright stating it was scummy.

[farside22]

Why would Exemplar do that if he knew he was replacing out?

Well the replaced out looked scummy. He was under scrutiny during the time. It just hit me.
Id just look at ame with her defense of bug if he flips scum.

I would do this but I’m really hoping I just die on Porkens tonight.

Do you really think bug/pork makes sense as scum team?
That was a pretty weak reason from bug to vote pork.

yeah i dont know how to read this slot, and I'm not open to lynching it right now. why is bugs scum and not town?

No substance compared to others. Weak reasons for vote on pork. A bit of POE at this point for me.
TBF I didn't check his meta and from what I read from a few it's not really easy to tell his alignment.

i'm going to trust your reads and inutile reads and piggyback off of them as needed. carry me this game. if i get lynched, it's your responsibility to find the scum in my wagon. you have no say in this. kthxbye.

I can't read this slot because I'm too biased that it's scum. I defer to farside for this one.

Just not liking the buddying I'm getting from this spot.

Scum reads: HEM, bug
Questionable: Ame, intutile

[Porkens]

to pocket you for later, maybe? it confirms you town, because he's weak. you might like that. beside that, nothing really if you're town. GG's roleclaim can only be scum if the person he declares he's gonna hide behind is scum as well.

Sure I get that but if he were town and declares his intent to hide behind someone the scum knows is town, don’t they always kill shoot the target and kill both? For scum gg it just seems like self-defeating strategy.

[inutile]

Scum reads: HEM, bug
Questionable: Ame, intutile

what happened to your porkens read?

[Porkens]

this post feels like a major outlier in your meta. could you link me to a similar post you've ever made? is there a reason you chose to present this information to us in this way?

Nah I’m not really in the mood to do that. But if you dig you’ll find plenty. “In this way” is vague, but I was trying to be clear and communicative and transparent with my thought process.

What do you mean “this looks just like my iso”? Are you suggesting that ame plagiarized your reads?

[inutile]

Nah I’m not really in the mood to do that. But if you dig you’ll find plenty. “In this way” is vague, but I was trying to be clear and communicative and transparent with my thought process.

What do you mean “this looks just like my iso”? Are you suggesting that ame plagiarized your reads?

i asked because i looked through the isos of your two most recent games as town and two games as mafia you replaced out of and another game as mafia and did not find a comparable post in any of those games. it also isn't comparable to your other posts in this game. that's why i described it as a major outlier. by in this way i meant via a long carefully laid out post, one that you say took you multiple tries to compile.

it could either be due to plagiarizing or agreeing with or simply coming to a similar conclusion. it seemed noteworthy to me that ame's scumreads and much of the reasoning behind them could have been drawn from my posts.

[Porkens]

Ugh ok your asking really nicely one min

[HoldenGolden]

Some unforeseen events arise today, and I've gotten busy as a result. I do see there has been talked about the claim
The only way with the tracker claim scum!gg can report a false positive with his claim is A) if Ame is also scum, B) Ame is nked and they risk shooting there without knowing if the protection or C) the other obvious avenue that I wont mention on the off chance this is some major gambit and they dont think about it. If Ame is town, scum!GG is basically fucked if they follow through with the safety check on him. His claim even before the tracker was reveal had its issues as a fakeclaim.

I think the scummest person in the thread after the lynch candidate should be the target of GG to alleivte the concerns from the off chance of a GG/pork gambit.

There was something else I wanted to talk about after hurry-catch up

[Porkens]

So is that scummy re: ame?


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p9505082

[inutile]

So is that scummy re: ame?


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p9505082

potentially, maybe more so since the reasoning behind her townreads wasn't presented in the same way.

thankyou.

[inutile]

is that

what is your current read of farside?

[HoldenGolden]

Oh yeah, pork beat me too it, but I agree bugs readlist is noncommittal I'm several places. More importantly, it's where its non committal I have issues.

the

ame/exmplar slot is just tonnally fucked

i

think HG was probably only being weird because of the way HEM is prodding him which defintiely gives me a similar vibe to hwo he was as my scum partner in the last blitz but tbh

porky gives me weird low key scum vibes. almost like he has info about scum prs that would make him think hider is a weird claim
popopopopo for some reason gives me high key town vibes that i dont know how to explain what the numbers spinning in my brain mean
VOTE: porky
farside trying to get this mechanical knowledge in the game thread seems townish to me

inutile are you shiki?

double pedit:
I WANNA POST DAMMIT

From top to bottom bolded (note this is just what stands out to me rather than all the places its noncommittal):

-the ame/exemplar is tonally werid yet not described in a way relating to alignment. I kinda find hard to believe given the ample amount of other content points that could be said about the slot (scummy replace out, Exemplars vs pop interaction, etc.). Further, it doesnt really explain how the slot is fucked and who fucked it to all hell, preventing any sort of real counterpoint by anybody.

-the reads on me and HEM on it's own is fine. However, bugs commitment to it is apparently centered around pork being scum. To me,

the read strength in their HG/HEM read is much stronger than the reasonings given for the porks read (where they admit its "werid low key scum vibes")

. Therefore, it strikes out to me that bugs went what appears to be the weaker of the two reads and not commit to what they see as scum!hem repeating his behavior.

-intuile is here because it's not actually a read. However, I think there should be one here given the express feelings over me and HEM. In a world where you think me and him is doing theater, then I expect a person to also townlean the player that called it out regardless of their identity. This introduces what seems to be an inconsistent thought process which leads me to think that Bugs was not genuine with the catch up and consequently frabicated the read list.

Needless to say, I am fine with a bugs lynch so far

[popopopopopopo]

im here and ready for a lynch

[HoldenGolden]

I do have questions though I would like to ask at bugs

-explain the tonally fuck point about ame/exemplar. How is it tonally fuck and in what ways? What is your actual read on them factoring in both the claim and other aspects of that slot like the replace out?

-I am taking it that you are scumreading both me and HEM for similar actions from blitz I. Am I correct? If so, why did you vote porky if you feel this is true rather than me or HEM? What do you make of HEM recent posts which seems to talk about the hider claim like you claim pork did?

-what is your actual read on intuite? If null, explain why.

[Ame]

Holden, how does Monkey's interaction with Inu on page 9 and 10 come from town!Monkey?

[Ame]

im here and ready for a lynch

What's your read on Monkey

[HoldenGolden]

I also need to actually read read farsides posts. I'm having Datisi syndrome with her for some old reason.

Pedit: I can look back and reread that section.

I will confess I only have first hand knowledge of his scum game.

[Porkens]

is that

what is your current read of farside?

havent changed

[Ame]

I will confess I only have first hand knowledge of his scum game.

What do you mean by only?

[Ame]

Bugs is obvious town. Their scum play is so different from their town play.

Scum Bugs is concerned optics and so makes an effort to appear in thread, and displays a sense of self-consciousness over their reads. This leads to excessive use of phrases such as "my dumb tinfoil brain," "brain worm," and the like. They use these phrases as both alignments, but as scum it's excessive and used to deny accountability for their mispushes. Another thing is that they have a high fluff-to-content ratio as scum. As town, their posts are more succinct and serious and they don't care about their reads making them look bad.

Town ISOs:
Totally Real Food
Reservoir Dogs (As Mr Pink) - Yes they were notably more active in this game but that's because they were having fun RPing. Use TRF for a better activity comparison.

Scum ISOs:
Blitz I
Mini Normal 2119

[Ame]

After thinking it over, I actually doubt Gobbles is town here. His play is too scummy. Gobbles, you should 100% target Pork tonight. I'll track elsewhere.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: HEM

[inutile]

I'll track elsewhere.

are you worried it's a trap? feels like you're worried it's a trap.

[Ame]

I'll track elsewhere.

are you worried it's a trap? feels like you're worried it's a trap.

What sort of trap?