Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Pink Ball]

Menalque is town.
MariaR is town.
Firebringer is town.
Bingle is town.

Something_Smart and Datisi are the slots that I need more time on to be certain I lose all interest in lynching them today.

Huh

[Menalque]

Menalque is town.
MariaR is town.
Firebringer is town.
Bingle is town.

Something_Smart and Datisi are the slots that I need more time on to be certain I lose all interest in lynching them today.

Huh

Do you disagree with any of this?

[Pink Ball]

No, I agree with mostly everything, that's the weird thing. Changed my mind about Blake

[skitter30]

I don't. That's why I wanted her to explain more because that's what she appeared to be doing.

it's not tho ...

mena do you think i'm super offbase with ss here ?

[gobbledygook]

High risk, low reward.

Seems like low risk high reward to me, having a hider die without crumbing or because scum caught the crumb and killed their target is huge, whereas scum knowing certain players aren't hiders, when they could be other PR's and scum don't even know if there IS a hider, is not that bad.

Did Bingle ever respond to this?

[Bingle]

Pseudoclaiming hider narrows down the hider pool drastically, and lets scum shoot someone who is more likely to be hidden behind.

Which is good, because people aren't going to hide behind PR's or obvtown.

People aren’t going to hide behind outed prs. They are likely to hide behind pro town that could be deepwolfing (good players) who are also high priority nightkills.

Hider results aren’t trustworthy in this setup.

Leashing hider is a terrible option with this little information, especially given that this hider is the variant that can stop itself from dying.

Yup.

[Datisi]

Firebringer is town.

@blake, could you elaborate on this?

@mena, what's your thoughts on 780 and on bingle altogether now?

@PB, what the thing you don't agree with there (850, 852)?

last night i was reading the skitter/S_S thing as it was happening and i was thinking does it not make sense or am i just dead tired
i have slept and i still can't make sense of it
because S_S's comment there felt pretty normal to me?

[skitter30]

it didn't make sense to me and his followup on it felt very strange to me

[lilith2013]

Work is a shitshow today, I’m in back to back meetings for most of the day. I’ll catch up tonight

[Datisi]

it didn't make sense to me and his followup on it felt very strange to me

is it the "i think it's notable how quickly people are defending gobble" not making sense to you because he said he's townleaning him?

[skitter30]

well, more accurately, it felt like a strange reaction to have - you're townleaning someone, they're flashwagoned, and you don't commnent on the strangeness of the flashwagon, but you note that it's weird that people are defending someone you're townleaning
i would kinda expect town watching a townlean get flashwagoned to say that the wagon was weird (i.e. i'd expect him to be one of the people commenting that the flashwagon was strange). like there's some kind of disconnect there to think it's strange that people would comment on the flashwagon because that's what i'd expect town!him to be doing

i don't know if that explained what i was thinking better

and then the whole page-long convo about it was weird too

fire picked up on just the same thing at the same time as me - that's why i tentatively said i'm townreading him there

[Datisi]

i think i understand what you're trying to tell me, i just don't agree i guess

because i think i can vibe with "flashwagons are often seen but you don't often see so many people jump out and defend the flashwagon immedately" regardless of if he's townleaning the wagonee or not

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Something_Smart

[Something_Smart]

like there's some kind of disconnect there to think it's strange that people would comment on the flashwagon because that's what i'd expect town!him to be doing

I think you're continuing to confuse "strange" meaning "wrong" and "strange" meaning "unexpected." I meant the latter. You seem to be taking it as the former. I never actually even used the word strange.

[Pink Ball]

Work is a shitshow today, I’m in back to back meetings for most of the day. I’ll catch up tonight

Same, good luck!!

[skitter30]

ok
UNVOTE:
i am willing to acknowledge that i may have misunderstood the connotations of what you said
i still think the whole follow-up convo you had with me last night was weird tho

[Menalque]

@chem what are your reads?

[Menalque]

@blake would you vote turkey?

[Menalque]

@PP what are your reads?

[skitter30]

VOTE: chemist

[Menalque]

that's kind of a weird vote to make, skitt

[skitter30]

y

[gobbledygook]

Menalque, you are serious about your vote on me? Why?

Skitter, why are you voting Chemist?

[skitter30]

i don't like the other wagons and chemist hasn't done anything yet
it's a pressure vote more than anything else

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Skitter