Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[Pink Ball]

I think that a controversial quiz party is something interesting we could discuss right now before casting our votes.

In one hand, I'd like more approval for the quiz party we are choosing rather than a 50+1%, that's not very good, there should be a party we could all agree more. Also, I think town would be more open on denying a quiz party than scum; in this scenario, no matter if the quiz party is composed by town or not, I think town is rejecting it.

In the other hand, if the proposed quiz party is entirely town, at least one scum is declining it. In that case, I'd love to see if this quiz party passes the quiz, 'cause then we would have a PoE in the people who rejected it. And if the quiz fails, then we have a PoE on the people inside the quiz. It's like... a win win.

I think the latter is solid, but I haven't thought in a better party to propose so I'm not entirely convinced.

[MariaR]

Chain Order 2.1

unwnd

(5)

- unwnd >beeboy>Raya36>farside22>Starbuck

Chainless:

(7)

- Titus, Dunnstral Pink Ball, , NDmath, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear,

Quiz Team 2.1

Purposed Team

(4)

-

unwnd, NDmath, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy

Approve

(4)

- TrueSoulEnergy, Raya36, Titus, unwnd

Decline

(4)

- beeboy, farside22, midwaybear, Starbuck,

Not voting:

(4)

- Dunnstral Pink Ball, NDmath, , springlullaby

Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-06-18 00:17:43)

@Mod - you missed spring's vote in her post #1983 - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11880759

as well as ND's in his #1980 - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11880715

This was just a test to see if you were paying attention as I would never make a mod error in my life haha...

[farside22]

Like, I haven't coasted at all, said I was going to lay back for a while and you keep saying "this guy is coasting". When did you change your mind about the unwnd's reaction test? How did that got to be a "good one Pink Ball" to "seemed fake as shit"? Fuck off with the paranoia and let me be for a little

I played along with the reaction test because it's fun, I am one who let's people try out their plans because why wouldn't I. I wanted to see how people reacted to that claim and what people would do with it and oh look unwnd got probably got shot over something I thought was kind of stupid at the time so clearly I am right to just let things slide.

Out of the 7 players without the chain I only particularly care about Spring and TSE receiving it.
My specific death order is NDMath -> ABR/Titus -> Midway but I'll be real I only feel strongly about my town reads which is why I am widening my pressure.

You're complaining about the game state but are also complaining that I am drawing attention to the rest of the players so it isn't just the same 1v1s constantly?

Take as long as you want, just don't give me shit for how I am playing this game because everything I am doing is absurdly reasonable.

I keep wondering why you town read spring and TSE and push against the 2 players I have the strongest scum read on.
You talk about truth and reading honestly. You have changed your reads on a few people and have a lot of nulls.
I thought you were town read lock but now I feel like I can't trust you.

[midwaybear]

I agree with beeboy here. My townreads so far are {beeboy, unwnd, spring, TSE, starbuck}. beeboy has been doing a lot to keep us together and it's fine that he changed his reads. unwnd's reaction at EoD was pretty townie and the way he has handled the quiz team proposal today doesn't really feel scum motivated? spring is sorta a gut TR that I believe in. TSE I was really doubtful(if he is scum, I have gotten hard pocketed). However, this seems to be his meta, and I'm fine with it. Starbuck I also had doubts about, but her last few posts seem like she is genuinely trying to understand the game.

This leaves {Titus, ND, farside, PB, Dunn, Raya}. My hot take is that PB, ND, Titus are town, but I'll have to think about it.

[Starbuck]

Pink ball, the quiz vote is 5-5 right now, it takes 7 to approve the quiz, which means if either one of us denies it it fails. What do you think?

We're one less player without SirCakez. If my math is right, it takes 6. Not 7.

[Starbuck]

Chain Order 2.1

unwnd

(5)

- unwnd >beeboy>Raya36>farside22>Starbuck

Chainless:

(7)

- Titus, Dunnstral Pink Ball, , NDmath, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear,

Quiz Team 2.1

Purposed Team

(4)

-

unwnd, NDmath, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy

Approve

(4)

- TrueSoulEnergy, Raya36, Titus, unwnd

Decline

(4)

- beeboy, farside22, midwaybear, Starbuck,

Not voting:

(4)

- Dunnstral Pink Ball, NDmath, , springlullaby

Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-06-18 00:17:43)

@Mod - you missed spring's vote in her post #1983 - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11880759

as well as ND's in his #1980 - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11880715

This was just a test to see if you were paying attention as I would never make a mod error in my life haha...

I only remembered them because I saw them in real time. If I was you, I probably would have missed them, too. Thank you for going back to verify!

[midwaybear]

no, I think it's 7 to approve and 6 to decline
It's sort of how for no hang you need half but for hang you need more than half

[farside22]

Well mid makes me feel better that I'm way to paranoid for this game and would say Spring/Mid as the bottom 2.
I half wondered if I was losing it, but glad to know I wasn't wrong about most players now.

[unwnd]

I didn't get to my writeup yet (I was tired from work) but

>farside22>Starbuck>Raya36>

Raya36>farside22>Starbuck

This is just uncanny.

[Pink Ball]

Good catch.Tomorrow we leave one of them behind

[midwaybear]

Dang. I'm going to check what their reasons were.

[farside22]

I think that a controversial quiz party is something interesting we could discuss right now before casting our votes.

In one hand, I'd like more approval for the quiz party we are choosing rather than a 50+1%, that's not very good, there should be a party we could all agree more. Also, I think town would be more open on denying a quiz party than scum; in this scenario, no matter if the quiz party is composed by town or not, I think town is rejecting it.

In the other hand, if the proposed quiz party is entirely town, at least one scum is declining it. In that case, I'd love to see if this quiz party passes the quiz, 'cause then we would have a PoE in the people who rejected it. And if the quiz fails, then we have a PoE on the people inside the quiz. It's like... a win win.

I think the latter is solid, but I haven't thought in a better party to propose so I'm not entirely convinced.

It would be nice to see why people are denying or accepting the quiz.

I didn't get to my writeup yet (I was tired from work) but

>farside22>Starbuck>Raya36>

Raya36>farside22>Starbuck

This is just uncanny.

Just going to say it again. Day 1 we were asked to pass in that order....do i need to quote the request or are you just going to keep ignoring me saying that?
As for today, there is no doubt im town reading sb. Im not going to give the chain to someone i dont trust.

[farside22]

Spring is the hammer on her own team, it's 7 to hammer.
The team basically passed.


@NDMath pass it to farside/starbuck who can pass it to the other. We can't lynch them today.

@Starbuck.
Raya is in the quiz group and can't be lynched, please pass her the chain.

@Raya I still highly advice you give the chain to TSE.
ala plan 897

I didn't get to my writeup yet (I was tired from work) but

>farside22>Starbuck>Raya36>

Raya36>farside22>Starbuck

This is just uncanny.

This was after the quiz team was approved and who needed to have a chain.

[Starbuck]

Dang. I'm going to check what their reasons were.

Quiz Team.

[Dunnstral]

What were you reasons on day 2?

[beeboy]

I agree with beeboy here. My townreads so far are {beeboy, unwnd, spring, TSE, starbuck}. beeboy has been doing a lot to keep us together and it's fine that he changed his reads. unwnd's reaction at EoD was pretty townie and the way he has handled the quiz team proposal today doesn't really feel scum motivated? spring is sorta a gut TR that I believe in. TSE I was really doubtful(if he is scum, I have gotten hard pocketed). However, this seems to be his meta, and I'm fine with it. Starbuck I also had doubts about, but her last few posts seem like she is genuinely trying to understand the game.

This leaves {Titus, ND, farside, PB, Dunn, Raya}. My hot take is that PB, ND, Titus are town, but I'll have to think about it.

So a Raya, Dunn, Farside team?
Very spicy please elaborate.

[Dunnstral]

I think that a controversial quiz party is something interesting we could discuss right now before casting our votes.

In one hand, I'd like more approval for the quiz party we are choosing rather than a 50+1%, that's not very good, there should be a party we could all agree more. Also, I think town would be more open on denying a quiz party than scum; in this scenario, no matter if the quiz party is composed by town or not, I think town is rejecting it.

In the other hand, if the proposed quiz party is entirely town, at least one scum is declining it. In that case, I'd love to see if this quiz party passes the quiz, 'cause then we would have a PoE in the people who rejected it. And if the quiz fails, then we have a PoE on the people inside the quiz. It's like... a win win.

I think the latter is solid, but I haven't thought in a better party to propose so I'm not entirely convinced.

Reject Quiz

^ No need to overthink this, the exact same quiz team can be proposed again if needed

[Dunnstral]

I agree with beeboy here. My townreads so far are {beeboy, unwnd, spring, TSE, starbuck}. beeboy has been doing a lot to keep us together and it's fine that he changed his reads. unwnd's reaction at EoD was pretty townie and the way he has handled the quiz team proposal today doesn't really feel scum motivated? spring is sorta a gut TR that I believe in. TSE I was really doubtful(if he is scum, I have gotten hard pocketed). However, this seems to be his meta, and I'm fine with it. Starbuck I also had doubts about, but her last few posts seem like she is genuinely trying to understand the game.

This leaves {Titus, ND, farside, PB, Dunn, Raya}. My hot take is that PB, ND, Titus are town, but I'll have to think about it.

Weird read shift on me following in the heels of beeboy

[beeboy]

Ngl I can't understand the Dunnstral chain toss yesterday to this day from Midway which is why I am reluctant to call him town still.
But I don't actually have an issue with any of his day 2 play.

Does anyone pushing on him right now have thoughts on this?

[farside22]

What were you reasons on day 2?

Town read on SB.

VOTE: Farside
Top town read besides PB who I think will have a better chance of getting the chain than farside. Also mine and Farside's reads align better.

Ngl I can't understand the Dunnstral chain toss yesterday to this day from Midway which is why I am reluctant to call him town still.
But I don't actually have an issue with any of his day 2 play.

Does anyone pushing on him right now have thoughts on this?

I'm just going to assume anyone who gets a strong scum read will be town in your world and ignore you for the remainder of the game.

[beeboy]

I'm just going to assume anyone who gets a strong scum read will be town in your world and ignore you for the remainder of the game.

you do you.

[Starbuck]

I think that a controversial quiz party is something interesting we could discuss right now before casting our votes.

In one hand, I'd like more approval for the quiz party we are choosing rather than a 50+1%, that's not very good, there should be a party we could all agree more. Also, I think town would be more open on denying a quiz party than scum; in this scenario, no matter if the quiz party is composed by town or not, I think town is rejecting it.

In the other hand, if the proposed quiz party is entirely town, at least one scum is declining it. In that case, I'd love to see if this quiz party passes the quiz, 'cause then we would have a PoE in the people who rejected it. And if the quiz fails, then we have a PoE on the people inside the quiz. It's like... a win win.

I think the latter is solid, but I haven't thought in a better party to propose so I'm not entirely convinced.

Reject Quiz

^ No need to overthink this,

the exact same quiz team can be proposed again if needed

No, it can't.

3) The Chainleader will also nominate a group of players to go on a quiz. Players can vote to approve or deny this pairing.

If the group is denied the chain leader must make a new team.

If the teams are denied 3 times in a row the quiz is automatically lost. YOU MAY ONLY VOTE TO APPROVE OR FAIL A TEAM ONCE PER TEAM

[Starbuck]

What were you reasons on day 2?

I haven't passed it yet.

[Starbuck]

beeboy, did you have anything for me in regards to my response to you in 2222?

[Raya36]

I mean to some degree I think we are going to gravitate towards the loudest bottom 2 of (TSE, You).

But I do prefer ABR/(Dunn,PB,Chess)

cause I feel like we are just letting people get away with coasting right now and I really hate it lol.

Chess?