Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[skitter30]

i don't know yet
i don't have a good enough grasp on the gamestate yet

[gobbledygook]

it's not like i waltzed in and was like
vote: chemist
this is a pressure vote !!!!

later somebody asked me to explain it and they said that town!chemist doesn't respond super well to pressure that way so i unvoted

i'm not sure what you're asking/expecting of me here

Ok. So you think a vote itself has basic pressure value, even if it’s announced as a pressure vote?

[skitter30]

gobble i unvoted just about the time i said it was a pressure vote
i didn't say it was a pressure vote when i voted

[Datisi]

bingle town
lil/PB/blake probtown
i remember at one point saying to myself "townpoints to maria" for something

can you try to explain these ones to me pls?

bingle is partly explained in 603, and partly while i am often a very good pocket, scum usually isn't this blatantly blatant about it

all the others are Gut(tm)

you feel weirdly "tryhard" in an odd way and i'm not sure what to make of it

hi, menalque, have we met?

hi, yeah, you keep giving me 892 vibes for whatever reason. also like in 856 i asked you something and that's got ignored (though others have ignored my question from that post too so maybe it's not you who knows) but 10 posts later you're spamming questions and it kinda feels like busyowrk and i don't like it.

[lilith2013]

Gobbles, where are you trying to go with this questioning? What purpose does it serve/how is it helping you sort skitter?

[lilith2013]

disclaimer, i’m still not really caught up but i’m still working so i can’t make catchup posts

[gobbledygook]

gobble i unvoted just about the time i said it was a pressure vote
i didn't say it was a pressure vote when i voted

But you didn’t vote when announcing it as pressure, your unvote came later. Which means you think that a vote has inherent pressure, right?

[skitter30]

yes, that's why it was a pressure vote

[gobbledygook]

Gobbles, where are you trying to go with this questioning? What purpose does it serve/how is it helping you sort skitter?

I want to understand her opinion on pressure votes. I don’t think votes have inherent pressure. I think votes only have pressure if they have basis.

Pedit:
I disagree

Why not use your vote in the mean time to pressure someone else other than Chemist?

[skitter30]

because i didn't know where else to vote so i just voted there while i try to sort it out
i posted my reads at just about the same time and if you notice i said i didn't have scumreads really on anyone other than ss and i wanted to take a step back there

i feel like you're treating this as a permanent / intent-to-wagon vote when that's not what it was, and i feel like i've been clear as to just what kind of vote it was

[gobbledygook]

because i didn't know where else to vote so i just voted there while i try to sort it out
i posted my reads at just about the same time and if you notice i said i didn't have scumreads really on anyone other than ss and i wanted to take a step back there

Ok why not vote any of the other names that have no read next to them on your list?

i feel like you're treating this as a permanent / intent-to-wagon vote when that's not what it was, and i feel like i've been clear as to just what kind of vote it was

I mean isn’t it a little? You said to Menalque you were going to vote there again if he doesn’t give you/Menalque what you want. Plus you also quoted his YouTube trash thing with a similar type comment.

[skitter30]

i don't know why i voted him, it felt like the right vote at the time
and yes if someone fails to live up to the pressure it becomes a real vote

[Menalque]

why is it so important if it was a pressure vote or not?

[skitter30]

i don't know

[gobbledygook]

why is it so important if it was a pressure vote or not?

It helps me understand skitter’s point of view on Chemist

[Menalque]

bingle town
lil/PB/blake probtown
i remember at one point saying to myself "townpoints to maria" for something

can you try to explain these ones to me pls?

bingle is partly explained in 603, and partly while i am often a very good pocket, scum usually isn't this blatantly blatant about it

all the others are Gut(tm)

you feel weirdly "tryhard" in an odd way and i'm not sure what to make of it

hi, menalque, have we met?

hi, yeah, you keep giving me 892 vibes for whatever reason. also like in 856 i asked you something and that's got ignored (though others have ignored my question from that post too so maybe it's not you who knows) but 10 posts later you're spamming questions and it kinda feels like busyowrk and i don't like it.

okay, but what about those 3 gives you gut reads on them and not on others? like what in their posting has given you those gut reads?

yeah, I saw, I just didn't feel like answering because I wanted to talk to other people at that point. the answer is: not sure. sorry. I imagine that when I do my readslist it will help me clarify where exactly bingle is for me atm

[skitter30]

i mean i feel like it was fairly clear?
i voted him as a pressure vote cuz i feel like he's lurking and not providing content
mena says that town!him reacts poorly to that sort of pressure so i backed off, but said if he didn't step it up i'd vote him again

[Menalque]

why is it so important if it was a pressure vote or not?

It helps me understand skitter’s point of view on Chemist

why do you think you're struggling to get a grasp on the gamestate, skitt?

[Datisi]

okay, but what about those 3 gives you gut reads on them and not on others? like what in their posting has given you those gut reads?

would it still be gut reads if i were able to explain it with logic and whatnot?

also, your readslist better be damn good how much you're hyping it up.

[Datisi]

ignore the last period now it looks more aggressive than intended and i don't like it

[Menalque]

okay, but what about those 3 gives you gut reads on them and not on others? like what in their posting has given you those gut reads?

would it still be gut reads if i were able to explain it with logic and whatnot?

also, your readslist better be damn good how much you're hyping it up.

I don't want it explained with logic, but like if I'm giving a gut read I can normally still point to which posts helped contribute to it and give an idea of what it was that was in them that hit me one way or another, so I'm just looking for that basically

[skitter30]

why do you think you're struggling to get a grasp on the gamestate, skitt?

i don't know
i feel oddly disengaged from it
like a lot of things feel fluffy and i haven't really felt like i found something to like ~latch~ on to
i'm working on it but i don't have super many super great reads and i'm aware of that
like i just feel like a lot of people have posted a lot of stuff but that a lot of it isn't ai

[Menalque]

okay, but what about those 3 gives you gut reads on them and not on others? like what in their posting has given you those gut reads?

would it still be gut reads if i were able to explain it with logic and whatnot?

also, your readslist better be damn good how much you're hyping it up.

ignore the last period now it looks more aggressive than intended and i don't like it

Regarding the last line, you’d be surprised how much that happens.

[Menalque]

also, regarding my readslist:

would you guys prefer a few medium sized posts or one monster sized post

NB: may not, in fact, reach true monster size should that option be selected

[gobbledygook]

You should make your readlist whatever construction you think best conveys the information you wish to convey