Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:03 pm

In post 2274, farside22 wrote:Well whoever is part of the quiz, we do need to approve it.
I have no desire to be part of the quiz team. Im a bit paranoid at the idea of a scum player that can switch votes theory that was presented.
I feel better about titus play over abr.
Till i see spring lynched I won't feel much satisfaction, unless its tse.
Id say im null on ndmath, feeling null on titus. This is not outside her ability as scum to do but she at least reads like she is sorting people.
Plus something abr said in the game gives me a slight pause.

So you only declined the quiz because I was in it?
Meaning your scared of me?

farside22 · Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:16 pm

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:16 pm

Why did you decline the quiz?

Raya36 · Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:31 pm

In post 2262, farside22 wrote:
In post 2260, beeboy wrote:
In post 2259, farside22 wrote:I thought you believed scum had something to mess with the quiz?
What Spring, Raya and I were going over towards the start of the day was scum had a 1-shot Tamper in order to prevent town from chain getting successful groups. By having more then 1 tamper it becomes stacked against town since 2 guaranteed failures combined with the low odds of getting an all town group makes the mechanic too scum sided.

By running it back if it fails we know the group has scum because they shouldn't have 2 tampers.
Or the group succeeds, we gain the power role + random conf town (the one who gains the PR).
Or scum was in the 1st group. Which is why i think spring is scum still.

I honestly don't think so because they would have known who was getting the chain and the no kill suggests they targeted the BP. Just a theory though I guess

Dunnstral · Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:33 pm

In post 2246, Starbuck wrote:
In post 2241, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2225, Pink Ball wrote:I think that a controversial quiz party is something interesting we could discuss right now before casting our votes.

In one hand, I'd like more approval for the quiz party we are choosing rather than a 50+1%, that's not very good, there should be a party we could all agree more. Also, I think town would be more open on denying a quiz party than scum; in this scenario, no matter if the quiz party is composed by town or not, I think town is rejecting it.

In the other hand, if the proposed quiz party is entirely town, at least one scum is declining it. In that case, I'd love to see if this quiz party passes the quiz, 'cause then we would have a PoE in the people who rejected it. And if the quiz fails, then we have a PoE on the people inside the quiz. It's like... a win win.

I think the latter is solid, but I haven't thought in a better party to propose so I'm not entirely convinced.

Reject Quiz

^ No need to overthink this,
the exact same quiz team can be proposed again if needed
No, it can't.

In post 2, MariaR wrote:3) The Chainleader will also nominate a group of players to go on a quiz. Players can vote to approve or deny this pairing.
If the group is denied the chain leader must make a new team.
If the teams are denied 3 times in a row the quiz is automatically lost. YOU MAY ONLY VOTE TO APPROVE OR FAIL A TEAM ONCE PER TEAM

I don't think it's that literal

Starbuck · Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:36 pm

Keep reading, Dunn.

beeboy · Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:36 pm

In post 2250, MariaR wrote:
The Quiz Team has been rejected! A new one must be now be made. It cannot be the same team as the first one.

It is that literal.

farside22 · Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:45 pm

In post 2277, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Why did you decline the quiz?

Because I think your scum and would rather see you lynched.

In post 2278, Raya36 wrote:
In post 2262, farside22 wrote:
In post 2260, beeboy wrote:
In post 2259, farside22 wrote:I thought you believed scum had something to mess with the quiz?
What Spring, Raya and I were going over towards the start of the day was scum had a 1-shot Tamper in order to prevent town from chain getting successful groups. By having more then 1 tamper it becomes stacked against town since 2 guaranteed failures combined with the low odds of getting an all town group makes the mechanic too scum sided.

By running it back if it fails we know the group has scum because they shouldn't have 2 tampers.
Or the group succeeds, we gain the power role + random conf town (the one who gains the PR).
Or scum was in the 1st group. Which is why i think spring is scum still.
I honestly don't think so because they would have known who was getting the chain and the no kill suggests they targeted the BP. Just a theory though I guess

Scum either shot unwnd (would clear scum in theory but the failed attempt still lingers), there is a role that protected someone, or scum didn't shot.
I'm leaning on the second option.

Dunnstral · Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:48 pm

In post 2280, Starbuck wrote:Keep reading, Dunn.

The once per team thing means that if I vote to approve the quiz, I can't then change to decline

Dunnstral · Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:49 pm

Just now saw 2250; I don't think that was explained anywhere.

In any case, it's not a huge deal

unwnd · Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:55 pm

I fail to understand what you're doing but you're at least more active than NDmath, what are your thoughts right now?

unwnd · Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:22 pm

Or just say nothing that's cool too

Raya36 · Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:28 pm

In post 2282, farside22 wrote:
In post 2277, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Why did you decline the quiz?
Because I think your scum and would rather see you lynched.

In post 2278, Raya36 wrote:
In post 2262, farside22 wrote:
In post 2260, beeboy wrote:
In post 2259, farside22 wrote:I thought you believed scum had something to mess with the quiz?
What Spring, Raya and I were going over towards the start of the day was scum had a 1-shot Tamper in order to prevent town from chain getting successful groups. By having more then 1 tamper it becomes stacked against town since 2 guaranteed failures combined with the low odds of getting an all town group makes the mechanic too scum sided.

By running it back if it fails we know the group has scum because they shouldn't have 2 tampers.
Or the group succeeds, we gain the power role + random conf town (the one who gains the PR).
Or scum was in the 1st group. Which is why i think spring is scum still.
I honestly don't think so because they would have known who was getting the chain and the no kill suggests they targeted the BP. Just a theory though I guess
Scum either shot unwnd (would clear scum in theory but the failed attempt still lingers), there is a role that protected someone, or scum didn't shot.
I'm leaning on the second option.

Oh the possibility of a protective role completely slipped my mind

midwaybear · Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:31 pm

oh wow. Now unwnd has fallen prey to the group think. Why are my actions "fundamentally" scummy? Can you give me actual reasons like Raya did, so I have something to refute?
Also, Raya, I don't think my reads are that noncommittal.

Raya36 · Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:32 pm

Also for the team I'm happiest with a team that doesnt include Midway, TSE (because then we would have to give him the chain and then midway would get it), ND, or Spring.

I'd be happiest seeing Unwnd, Farside, Bee (if Unwnd wants to use his role for that), PB, StarBuck.

Raya36 · Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:33 pm

In post 2288, midwaybear wrote:oh wow. Now unwnd has fallen prey to the group think. Why are my actions "fundamentally" scummy? Can you give me actual reasons like Raya did, so I have something to refute?
Also, Raya, I don't think my reads are that noncommittal.

Its not your reads as a whole. It's just the way you say them. Like if they didnt work out right away you'd have room to change.

midwaybear · Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:34 pm

Bruh is having weak reads really scum-indicative? Maybe I'm actually uncertain. Why else do you SR me?
pedit: can you pull up some examples where I did that? I'll try to explain what I was thinking.

Starbuck · Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:41 pm

In post 2283, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2280, Starbuck wrote:Keep reading, Dunn.
The once per team thing means that if I vote to approve the quiz, I can't then change to decline

I was referring to your "we can put the same quiz team up again" remark.

NDMath · Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:42 pm

In post 2153, MariaR wrote:
Chain Order 2.1
unwnd
(5)
- unwnd >beeboy>Raya36>farside22>Starbuck

Chainless:
(7)
- Titus, Dunnstral Pink Ball, , NDmath, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear,

Quiz Team 2.1
Purposed Team
(4)
-
unwnd, NDmath, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy

Approve
(5)
- TrueSoulEnergy, Raya36, NDmath, Titus, unwnd

Decline
(5)
- beeboy, farside22, springlullaby, midwaybear, Starbuck

Not voting:
(2)
- Dunnstral Pink Ball, ,

Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-06-18 00:17:43)

I would prefer bottom three of titus/midway/tse with Dunn as the 'true leader' (whatever that term was for pink ball yesterday).
TSE in there so that midway is an option.

Midway/TSE might be w/w here.
The way TSE is overly sure of midway!Town and planning to immediately pass him the chain makes sense as w/w, as it would block out a scum hang and it's blatantcy aims to deter us from thinking two wolves would interact like that.
They are also both proposing teams that were entirely on the first quiz with little rational, which supports the theory that all scum were off quiz and they have a 1-shot manipulative ability.

midwaybear · Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:54 pm

Why do you scumread me?

midwaybear · Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:58 pm

ndmath, why are you lurking and also saying the most useless stuff? I'm sorry, but you pop in once every 24 hours and basically feed into the groupthink mentality. Your posts have barely any game-advancing content, and I'm pretty sure you have quoted what other people said more than you actually give your thoughts.

unwnd · Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:10 pm

I actually understand your disposition midway. I also just think it is a convenient one to make.

midwaybear · Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:13 pm

so attacking NDMath for legit reasons is convenient now. How about you tell that to everyone who scumreads me for WISHY WASHY reads? That's not even necessarily scum indicative too!

Starbuck · Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:15 pm

You have been wishy washy though. You don't seem to stick with your reads.

midwaybear · Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:16 pm

In post 2265, unwnd wrote:I think it has become a feigned ignorance instead of a characteristic if that makes sense.

NO this does not make sense. What does this even mean?
pedit: yes, because they are changing!