Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Pink Ball]

Problem is, as endgame approaches, the SK can become a pain in the ass. Can't remember the game of the game but it was a Krazy game where I was scum and Alch was the SK and we all practically knew that he was a SK but we (by we I mean the entire playerlist, scum and town) didn't deal with him until the last minute and it became a huge threat (for both parties). I mean for my team it wasn't that bad keeping him alive 'cause he kept shooting town, but at the end when my team already lost, town had to gambit to win the game against him.

Why not just, getting rid of that alternative?

[Bingle]

I think Bingle saw my other crumbs but still remained on my wagon after even quoting them so I’m suss of him.

You were giving off mild commuter vibes, but I didn't look for any crumbs, no.

And he still pushed this.

So town. So town.

I mean... I really didn't until you made a case I saw as obviously fabricated, and then immediately decided I needed to reevaluate when A) the wagon shot up as fast as it did and B) you further explained your case as being specifically about the Mena case.

I'm not sure what the scum motivation behind pushing you while you were giving off commuter vibes as opposed to just letting you do your thing is supposed to be, so... :shrug:

[Bingle]

Problem is, as endgame approaches, the SK can become a pain in the ass. Can't remember the game of the game but it was a Krazy game where I was scum and Alch was the SK and we all practically knew that he was a SK but we (by we I mean the entire playerlist, scum and town) didn't deal with him until the last minute and it became a huge threat (for both parties). I mean for my team it wasn't that bad keeping him alive 'cause he kept shooting town, but at the end when my team already lost, town had to gambit to win the game against him.

Why not just, getting rid of that alternative?

The argument that actually holds weight? I'm willing to make the high risk high reward play that gobbles here performs similarly to tw in that game where tw shot the entire scumteam as SK.

The actual truth of the matter? I like 3p roles a lot and would prefer losing to one over losing to scum. I won't gamethrow, but I will take gambles to give them the edge if they can be justified in my mind.

You're not wrong that 3p can be messy late game. You're not wrong that the extra KPN could bite us hard if gobbles has shit reads. You're not even wrong that if gobbles decides he doesn't want to townside he's a bigger weight than benefit.

I'm just personally inclined to gamble the other way.

[skitter30]

i would be fine with letting gobbles live if he just shoots within a predetermined pool

i don't want him to shoot all over the place

[Datisi]

i just don't wanna die lmao

[Bingle]

Blake what do you think of the wagons that brought me to L-2 and L-1 respectively?

This is why I'm voting Fire, btw.

[gobbledygook]

i just don't wanna die lmao

Don’t be scum next time

[Bingle]

Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?

I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call.

[Datisi]

bongle the chicken is gonna murder me pls help

[Menalque]

Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?

I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call.

I kinda think he would I just don’t know if he has. He’s done it twice which has given me some doubts

[gobbledygook]

Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?

I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call.

I kinda think he would I just don’t know if he has. He’s done it twice which has given me some doubts

Is this English

[Bingle]

Actively don't want dead:
Bingle
Pink Ball
skitter30 Datisi
MariaR Penguin Power



Need to sort:

Blake Belladonna
lilith2013
Chemist1422
Something_Smart
Menalque
Firebringer

[Bingle]

Does anyone know if PB would be likely to fake a townslip as scum?

I think the answer is no, but I've spent the last like 4 games we play together mislynching him so I don't really trust myself on that judgment call.

I kinda think he would I just don’t know if he has. He’s done it twice which has given me some doubts

Is this English

Mena is pointing out that the townslip I'm talking about has been repeated.

It's not like it's not obvious or anything, but scum PB would know that scum can't actually determine if there's an SK but his post

@mena about the setup, we first flip gobble, then we discuss it. Scum has more info about the setup so they could know that SK is a safe claim. I mean no one's going to counter, but they could be caught in the future if the allegedly real SK flips

implies a lack of that knowledge. My gut response is that PB wouldn't do something like that, but it's actually crazy easy to fake and I wanted input from people who know him better.

[gobbledygook]

Now is that a town slip for Pb and not just a Pb thing? He didn’t understand mechanics in the other mechanic games I played with him. Seems nai

[Menalque]

He also misunderstood the bus driver mechanics which obviously townslips that there’s not a bus driver and by extension that Pb is more likely to be town for not having checked the scum role PMs for sure

[Menalque]

i just don't wanna die lmao

Don’t be scum next time

If this isn’t just riffing why do you think dats is scum anyway?

[gobbledygook]

It’s riffing but datisi’s play leaves a lot to be desired. I’m townreading datisi but not because of their play.

[Bingle]

Now is that a town slip for Pb and not just a Pb thing?

+1. That's what I wanted people's opinions on.

If it's a PB thing and he's not likely to fake a townslip, it also means we can make a few assumptions about his potential scumpartners (that they're not the type to mastermind/talk mechanics in the scum PT.) I think that would slightly reduce the chance of PB scum with SS and Maria and more solidly reduce the chance of PB scum with Mena/skitter.

[Menalque]

It’s cute that you still think I could be scum bingleoo

[gobbledygook]

MariaR said she doesn’t understand the setup though

[Menalque]

If I’d rolled scum in my first game back I wouldn’t be trying this hard

[gobbledygook]

If I’d rolled scum in my first game back I wouldn’t be trying this hard

But you try harder as scum...

[Pink Ball]

Wait what are you talking about, why is not understanding the setup a town slip

[Pink Ball]

Also, Ponk Ball fact #2:

I wouldn't fake a town slip as scum. I play as natural as I can as scum 'cause people tend to townread me when I'm playing all natural. Faking a town slip would involve lying about something I know. I could, however, town slip as scum without the intention.

[Firebringer]

60 pages and it feels like we are nowhere near close to a lynch. This gonna be a 100 page day one?