Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[midwaybear]

I think pink ball is a good choice. He’s been under the radar, but he doesn’t feel scummy(Nd)

[Titus]

^^^ The real GOAT strategy, endorsed by Me, Titus, Raya and Spring.
Look at all those not consensus town read players. :O

I am in agreement with this. My post is a roundabout way of getting us there, without including Spring Dunn or Midway. I feel their dissent on the last one is because of their scum PMs.

I also don't buy scum having a tamper or using it on a quiz that didn't have dissent.

[beeboy]

I just realized 2 and 3 sort of intertwine, given that 2 of the chained were on the last quiz and 2 of them were not. The only people who aren't chained right now are Dunn/Spring (from last quiz).

Would still like thoughts.

To summarize (I can find any relevant long posts)

*long post on how easy it is to turn 1 successful group to a game with only successes by picking the same people over and over*
*long post on how a 1 shot tamper makes that fair for scum, 2 tampers is too strong*
*long post on how you being shot despite being BP could imply the above was used*

By using the same people we know scum can''t have 2 tampers so 2 fails = scum in the group.
Or scum is forced to hit pass for us and we win the power role, either outcome is $$$$$

I'm stupid and spell a quiz team out for me with this in mind. I don't really want Dunn or Spring, I think I would like to see them down the chain more.

Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya.
Assuming your town and we ignore Dunn and Spring this is the only group that fits my strat within your requirements.

[beeboy]

I just realized 2 and 3 sort of intertwine, given that 2 of the chained were on the last quiz and 2 of them were not. The only people who aren't chained right now are Dunn/Spring (from last quiz).

Would still like thoughts.

To summarize (I can find any relevant long posts)

*long post on how easy it is to turn 1 successful group to a game with only successes by picking the same people over and over*
*long post on how a 1 shot tamper makes that fair for scum, 2 tampers is too strong*
*long post on how you being shot despite being BP could imply the above was used*

By using the same people we know scum can''t have 2 tampers so 2 fails = scum in the group.
Or scum is forced to hit pass for us and we win the power role, either outcome is $$$$$

I'm stupid and spell a quiz team out for me with this in mind. I don't really want Dunn or Spring, I think I would like to see them down the chain more.

Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya.
Assuming your town and we ignore Dunn and Spring this is the only group that fits my strat within your requirements.

[unwnd]

I fail to understand what you're doing but you're at least more active than NDmath, what are your thoughts right now?

Or just say nothing that's cool too

Hi. I'd like to hear what you think about the next quiz group, I think we should sort that out asap.

I think there's scum in Raya/Starbuck, leaning Raya. I think Spring is town. I'm not sure on Midway, not really scumreading him. Titus looks like Scum.

When I asked Pink Ball if he was approving or denying the quiz he gave me a nonanswer which is kind of sus, though the post was fine

You think spring is town? Why? Why did you deny the quiz in the first place?

[midwaybear]

Replace farside with pink ball

[unwnd]

I just realized 2 and 3 sort of intertwine, given that 2 of the chained were on the last quiz and 2 of them were not. The only people who aren't chained right now are Dunn/Spring (from last quiz).

Would still like thoughts.

To summarize (I can find any relevant long posts)

*long post on how easy it is to turn 1 successful group to a game with only successes by picking the same people over and over*
*long post on how a 1 shot tamper makes that fair for scum, 2 tampers is too strong*
*long post on how you being shot despite being BP could imply the above was used*

By using the same people we know scum can''t have 2 tampers so 2 fails = scum in the group.
Or scum is forced to hit pass for us and we win the power role, either outcome is $$$$$

I'm stupid and spell a quiz team out for me with this in mind. I don't really want Dunn or Spring, I think I would like to see them down the chain more.

Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya.
Assuming your town and we ignore Dunn and Spring this is the only group that fits my strat within your requirements.

It's sort of running back the old quiz team but whatever I'm game.

Propose quiz team of: Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya

[unwnd]

Approve quiz team

Let's see this go through. Another deny is proscum IMO.

[Titus]

I just realized 2 and 3 sort of intertwine, given that 2 of the chained were on the last quiz and 2 of them were not. The only people who aren't chained right now are Dunn/Spring (from last quiz).

Would still like thoughts.

To summarize (I can find any relevant long posts)

*long post on how easy it is to turn 1 successful group to a game with only successes by picking the same people over and over*
*long post on how a 1 shot tamper makes that fair for scum, 2 tampers is too strong*
*long post on how you being shot despite being BP could imply the above was used*

By using the same people we know scum can''t have 2 tampers so 2 fails = scum in the group.
Or scum is forced to hit pass for us and we win the power role, either outcome is $$$$$

I'm stupid and spell a quiz team out for me with this in mind. I don't really want Dunn or Spring, I think I would like to see them down the chain more.

Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya.
Assuming your town and we ignore Dunn and Spring this is the only group that fits my strat within your requirements.

I love this quiz.

[beeboy]

Approve Quiz

[Titus]

Approve Quiz Team

[midwaybear]

. . .

[unwnd]

Titus is your read on Dunn something circumstantial as in, you have games with him? I'm not very good at reading him but I do think he has a bit more sass as town

[beeboy]

Keep in mind the scum pool is still {Farside, Spring, Dunn, Raya, Starbuck} if the quiz fails.

Since Dunn/Spring could manually deny the quiz night 1 then tamper night 2. Which makes them scum candidates still if we get chain fails.

[Titus]

Titus is your read on Dunn something circumstantial as in, you have games with him? I'm not very good at reading him but I do think he has a bit more sass as town

Circumstantial. I generally don't rely on meta unless it's a glaring personality tell. For instance, ABR's primary motivation is ego and winning. That has to fuel how he's read. Very few players have such quirks.

[beeboy]

Keep in mind the scum pool is still {Farside, Spring, Dunn, Raya, Starbuck} if the quiz fails.

Since Dunn/Spring could manually deny the quiz night 1 then tamper night 2. Which makes them scum candidates still if we get chain fails.

if the quiz fails***

[springlullaby]

OK. SO now that the quiz has been denied we can have three options.

1) A quiz team of 4 from the chainless
2) A quiz team of 2 who are chained, and 2 who are not.
3) Run back 2 of the same people from the last quiz, along with 2 new ones.

Me personally, I don't want to run back the same people if that's not evident. This makes Dunn and Spring not eligible for the first option. For option 1, I assume most people would agree with Me, Beeboy, xx, xx. For the second option, those eligible would be Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear and Titus. The problem with the second option is that two of those players were already denied, so I doubt that anyone would agree to option number 2. Option 3 is feasible, but I will only agree to the terms based on consensus.

I'll make this simple. Any chain without Spring, Dunn, or midway is an approval from me. I want to test my theory. I would prefer not NDMath because of their lack of presence, but I would approve that anyway.

If you and Beeboy go, the you/beeboy interaction gets tested. So I'm ok with that. However, I would explicitly vote down any chain with beeboy and Spring, Dunn or midway. A failure there would create too much division and allow an easy mislynch on beeboy if town.

Any chain with just one without beeboy, I would wait and see. If it wouldn't be too damaging to the game, I would be inclined to reject it. There's no guarantee that the spring/dunn/midway would be lynched the next day.

Titus, confirm right now that you will accept any quiz team when the 3rd iteration comes around.

[unwnd]

I think the people chainless right now is a bit telling of events in particular. Do people think there is more scum chained or less scum chained? Right now I'm sitting with the ideal that at least one scum is chained, which is why i agreed upon the quiz.

[Titus]

OK. SO now that the quiz has been denied we can have three options.

1) A quiz team of 4 from the chainless
2) A quiz team of 2 who are chained, and 2 who are not.
3) Run back 2 of the same people from the last quiz, along with 2 new ones.

Me personally, I don't want to run back the same people if that's not evident. This makes Dunn and Spring not eligible for the first option. For option 1, I assume most people would agree with Me, Beeboy, xx, xx. For the second option, those eligible would be Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear and Titus. The problem with the second option is that two of those players were already denied, so I doubt that anyone would agree to option number 2. Option 3 is feasible, but I will only agree to the terms based on consensus.

I'll make this simple. Any chain without Spring, Dunn, or midway is an approval from me. I want to test my theory. I would prefer not NDMath because of their lack of presence, but I would approve that anyway.

If you and Beeboy go, the you/beeboy interaction gets tested. So I'm ok with that. However, I would explicitly vote down any chain with beeboy and Spring, Dunn or midway. A failure there would create too much division and allow an easy mislynch on beeboy if town.

Any chain with just one without beeboy, I would wait and see. If it wouldn't be too damaging to the game, I would be inclined to reject it. There's no guarantee that the spring/dunn/midway would be lynched the next day.

Titus, confirm right now that you will accept any quiz team

when

the 3rd iteration comes around.

If

a third team comes around, of course.

Why are you so confident the quiz will fail?

[farside22]

Would you be willing to be on a team with spring and yourself? Would you ever deny a quiz if you felt like someone on the team was scum, or would you take that chance and see if your read was wrong?

See that's where I see the power in the quiz personally? Especially now. But people don't see it that way. They want me to pick townie players. OK. Who? I want to go into that ambiguous gray I was talking about because then it can be less gray based on results.

I just realized 2 and 3 sort of intertwine, given that 2 of the chained were on the last quiz and 2 of them were not. The only people who aren't chained right now are Dunn/Spring (from last quiz).

Would still like thoughts.

To summarize (I can find any relevant long posts)

*long post on how easy it is to turn 1 successful group to a game with only successes by picking the same people over and over*
*long post on how a 1 shot tamper makes that fair for scum, 2 tampers is too strong*
*long post on how you being shot despite being BP could imply the above was used*

By using the same people we know scum can''t have 2 tampers so 2 fails = scum in the group.
Or scum is forced to hit pass for us and we win the power role, either outcome is $$$$$

I'm stupid and spell a quiz team out for me with this in mind. I don't really want Dunn or Spring, I think I would like to see them down the chain more.

Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya.
Assuming your town and we ignore Dunn and Spring this is the only group that fits my strat within your requirements.

Replace farside with pink ball

Keep in mind the scum pool is still {Farside, Spring, Dunn, Raya, Starbuck} if the quiz fails.

Since Dunn/Spring could manually deny the quiz night 1 then tamper night 2. Which makes them scum candidates still if we get chain fails.

This is going to be a sloppy post.

1) i would approve any of the above. Wouldn't mind pb in exchange for me.
2) could we please put tse/spring as the bottom 2 for lynching. I think tse/mid scum but titus mentioning dunn did make me think about the animal mafia game that just ended. I strongly read dunn town by the end of day 2 in that game but admittedly my read on here on him is weak. Basically i wouldn't object to dunn at the bottom.

approve quiz team

[Titus]

**quiz team

[Titus]

I think the people chainless right now is a bit telling of events in particular. Do people think there is more scum chained or less scum chained? Right now I'm sitting with the ideal that at least one scum is chained, which is why i agreed upon the quiz.

I think only town are chained.

[Titus]

Where did this concept of a tamper come from?

[farside22]

I think the people chainless right now is a bit telling of events in particular. Do people think there is more scum chained or less scum chained? Right now I'm sitting with the ideal that at least one scum is chained, which is why i agreed upon the quiz.

I think only town are chained.

I think so too.

[springlullaby]

@farside, why do you think I'm scum again?