Micro 941 | Brass and Shrapnel | Mafia PT

[Tuxedo Mask]

In a game sense, I think you could get a lot from Hoctact's chaotic reads but still having a firm town read of Kilga. Even after acknowledging why I scum read them and then trying to get scum reads based on individual slots. It just looks like they are solely motivated by keeping Kilga alive, and everything else is secondary.

[Tuxedo Mask]

Also @George I'm sorry for what I've done to your game. I feel like this set up is for fast-paced chaos and I've just sort of lamed it out by being disengaged.

[Iconeum]

Yeah, I'm sorry, at this point I can't figure out how to close it out and engage. I think we have PP which is enough, but initiate ending it with votes I just don't know how.

that's where the deadline play comes in

in 2 days the day ends and people WILL place their votes
if dynamics don't change, we are likely gonna have the option to hammer at least

[Iconeum]

I like Kilga and Penguin too.

Ugh, the guilt is starting to set in.

It did. But it still doesn’t make sense, and it definitely didn’t make sense pre-flip.

Sometimes people change their opinions over time, or they see other players that look worse and more worthy of a vote, I guess? This certainly happens to me, but maybe the ethos at this site is different?

Whatever the reason, though, it is bizarre that you would hold this stance and yet spend no time today asking Tuxedo Mask about why he moved off of Koba. If the dissolution of the Koba train still doesn't make sense, why not spend any time interrogating one of the people that was directly responsible for it? Even if you think Tuxedo is town, it seems like it would be worth getting that perspective, to help make some sense of the dissolution if nothing else.

KILGA IS SO TOWN HOW CAN WE LYNCH THIS TOWNIE BOIIIII

[Iconeum]

Roses I think is kinda scummy by play, I still don't like their day 1, but I got 1 town ping from how Ico 180ed on me lol. Unsure if I should be giving that much stake.

YOU GIVE IT ALL THE STAKES YOU HAVE YOU HEAR ME

I LOVE STAKES

[Iconeum]

Tux your 1117 talking about the lack of scum motivation for PP during eod 1 is great

would townread you 10/10 in another game :p

[Iconeum]

and both scum whiteknighting Penpow would be really strange

[Iconeum]

Note that PP was demonstrably unhappy with me before 943; I would like you, or PP, or N3R, to produce the reason for that pre-943 unhappiness that is something I didn't list in 1003.

[Datisi]

oh dear, less than 24 hours left... considering the timezones of people, this might be over soon... i'll be around as much as possible (yay rip my sleep schedule)

you around?

[Tuxedo Mask]

Yeppers. I'm just phone posting. But I'll hop on the laptop to wrap this up.

[Datisi]

Lowkey wanna get pp to vote kilga and quickhammer that instead of playing you hammer i hammer bullshit...

How "positioned" are you for a kilga vote? Sorry legit mentally skipped your posts in the thread lmao

[Tuxedo Mask]

I'm basically locked in, just gotta respond to Kilga's big response. Even though that's a super towny post so I feel guilty. Though I don't think it would be hard to pivot to PP either.

[Datisi]

no it's not

kilga is obvscum and we're lynching him duh

[Tuxedo Mask]

Fair enough, what's your gameplan? Should I just start with the vote? Or do you wanna hop in and get the ball rolling? I'm worried if the two of us just show up and vote Kilga it might make PP hesitate.

[Datisi]

Yeah, same. Kinda don't want us both voting first. Has kilga said eho he wants to hammer him?

Was hoping to see your response first and work from there?

[Tuxedo Mask]

There, response sent.

[Datisi]

Okay, we see from here i guess. Can't pop out of the aether and vote kilga lmao

[Datisi]

I think points of interest, ask kilga who he wants to hammer him, and if you're voting first, maybe ask PP to vote kilga before me to see if he's serious about it

Like fmpov team CoUlD be tux/pp to see if he's baiting

Not sure if i should then quickhammer and pray or write "not hammering" and gamble on PP dropping the hammer

All of that pending if kilga writes he wants pp to hammer

[Tuxedo Mask]

On it

[Datisi]

ok I'm gonna keep

doing nothing

chilling until a bit more

[Tuxedo Mask]

Where is my PP?!?!?!
God, he's stressing me out.

[Datisi]

In case we get you and PP voting for kilga, do you want me to slam the hammer and gamble on 75%win/25%draw odds, or do you want me to "not hammer" and try to get PP to hammer?

[Datisi]

why is hoctac here can hoctac be like not here

[Tuxedo Mask]

In case we get you and PP voting for kilga, do you want me to slam the hammer and gamble on 75%win/25%draw odds, or do you want me to "not hammer" and try to get PP to hammer?

I think we're in a good spot to win this definitively. So no need to gamble. If the opportunity presents itself the call is up to you guys. Win or tie I will be fine with the result

[Tuxedo Mask]

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY IS THIS SO HARD.

Am I wrong or would the best chance for town at this point (besides catching us) be to just no lynch?