Micro 944: A Normal Blitz III - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 2.05

gobbledygook (2) -

popopopopopopo, inutile

bugspray (2) -

gobbledygook, farside22

inutile (1) -

bugspray

Not Voting (2) -

Ame, Porkens

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-06-12 13:45:00).

[farside22]

Inu: i have 2 main scum reads. There is no wishy washy stuff about that. I looked at your list because everyone on your list had something you slighted as scummy in some small way.
Im just noticing with after the hanner from bug that pox7 is being a bit quiet. I noticed that quiet tends to come from scum to town.
Im listing my lynch preferences....are you?

[inutile]

Inu: i have 2 main scum reads. There is no wishy washy stuff about that. I looked at your list because everyone on your list had something you slighted as scummy in some small way.
Im just noticing with after the hanner from bug that pox7 is being a bit quiet. I noticed that quiet tends to come from scum to town.
Im listing my lynch preferences....are you?

my list was in order, my vote is on gobbledygook and i have expressed that i found the hammer and what bugspray said after it very very scummy. what did you find wishy washy about my main two scumreads?

[Ame]

@Inu given my explanations do you still feel my initial reads are more likely to come from scum than own? And given the explanation for speculative vs factual do you still think the positions you have porkens and popo are justified?

[farside22]

Inu: i have 2 main scum reads. There is no wishy washy stuff about that. I looked at your list because everyone on your list had something you slighted as scummy in some small way.
Im just noticing with after the hanner from bug that pox7 is being a bit quiet. I noticed that quiet tends to come from scum to town.
Im listing my lynch preferences....are you?

my list was in order, my vote is on gobbledygook and i have expressed that i found the hammer and what bugspray said after it very very scummy. what did you find wishy washy about my main two scumreads?

Inutile what are your reads?

like i said i have been scumreading pretty much everyone to some extent so this list is mostly an attempt to weigh those scumreads against eachother. when i am kinda manic and excited to play i become don quixote tilting at windmills.

least likely to be mafia

farside - the associatives with porkens are the only thing i've noted as scummy. her stance on me feels unfair but not necessarily mafia indicative.
popopopopopopo - making a show out of wanting content instead of trying to get that content from players still feels mafia indicative to me. refusing to discuss that further also felt scummy to me. confidently declaring exemplar 100% scum probably a playstyle thing.
porkens - associatives with farside + the readslist being presented as a 'hey look i'm not scummy anymore' type of thing. like before that he was understanding of people scumreading him and then he made a big show out of having this big post coming, and then he presented that post as if it were meant to make him look town not to solve the game.
ame - the possible mafia reasons for the initial reads you presented feel stronger to me than the town reasons.
bugspray - it is hard to put that hammer any higher than this.

i think they knew it was a hammer, but i don't know if town!bugspray would lie about not knowing it was a hammer. maybe. like 'i am going to believe in my reads this game' then hammering someone they thought was scummy follows, but the oh didn't mean to hammer part doesn't.

gobbledygook - too hard for me to believe him with all of the factors considered.

most likely to be mafia

To be fair the bold reads very fence sitting on bug so it's hard to see you saying yes that is my second strongest scum read.

[Porkens]

If this is town we annihilate ame tomorrow.

VOTE: bugspray

[Ame]

Do you mean scum?

[Porkens]

Nope

[inutile]

@Inu given my explanations do you still feel my initial reads are more likely to come from scum than own? And given the explanation for speculative vs factual do you still think the positions you have porkens and popo are justified?

i think i said this earlier, or at least i tried to, but not as strongly as i did then, no. they make more sense to me now from a town!you perspective. your explanation made sense to me that behaviours themselves are more important than the reasons for them, and it also feels like porkens may be being spewed town, as both you and farside are working under that assumption without really directly working with porkens, so i'd move him to the top of the list at this time

To be fair the bold reads very fence sitting on bug so it's hard to see you saying yes that is my second strongest scum read.

maybe i was not explaining it well then. i was saying that i think they were lying about not knowing it was a hammer, which isn't impossible from town!bugspray but much less likely (which has since been all but confirmed to not be the case based on their insistence, so it is either a) they knew it was hammer or scum or b) they did not know it was hammer as town) and that it didn't follow for town!bugspray to 'oh didn't mean to hammer' because the reason for town!bugspray to hammer would be because of the belief in their reads. basically,

town!bugspray > believes in reads > hammers > why 'oh didn't mean to?'

it doesn't check out.

[Ame]

Nope

And if they flip scum?

[Ame]

Porkens is there a reason you do not wish to utilize the day time?

[Porkens]

How am I not utilizing it?

[Ame]

And rather than make assumptions about me why not ask me for elaboration/clarification on things that concern you. We have to stop rushing to conclusions.

[gobbledygook]

If Bugspray flips scum, Ame’s scum equity goes up. That said she’s the only other power role claimed so I am townreading her for now.
Farside I think is playing both sides with the vote on Bugspray and the spiritual vote on me.

Inutile’s paranoia and stubborness on me looks town.
Porkens reads town now too.

Farside > pox7 > good luck

[Ame]

You put bugs at L-1 when discussion is still ongoing. You did this to HEM as well.

[Porkens]

Do we? I think I’ve heard enough from you for the day. Hem also needed lynching.

[Ame]

Do we? I think I’ve heard enough from you for the day. Hem also needed lynching.

What is your read on me if bugs flips scum?

[Porkens]

Oh you’ll be totally clear then.

[Ame]

Oh you’ll be totally clear then.

Why is that?

[Porkens]

Hey I can’t give away all my secrets.

[Ame]

Vote: Porkens

[inutile]

That said she’s the only other power role claimed so I am townreading her for now.

would everyone claiming be beneficial?

Do we? I think I’ve heard enough from you for the day. Hem also needed lynching.

see here i want to point out the possibility that this sudden desire for an immediate lynch could be connected to everyone noting popopopopopopo's absence. i feel like everyone is trying to discourage me from doing that though.

[Porkens]

Ooooo now this is exciting. State your case.

[Ame]

I think the Farside + Porkens association is possibly correct. Porkens changed his demeanor when I began question Farside and asking her about him. Additionally, Gobs believes that Farsi and Bugs are the team. If bugs flips town, this looks good for Farsi. And Porkens is attempting to make it look bad for me despite the obvious conclusion being that bugs flipping scum increases my scum equity. Porkens push here feels reactionary to my questioning and possibly a chainsaw of Farsi.

[Porkens]

Neither farside nor popopopopo nor myself are getting lynched today. Bugspray is the correct eat lynch with you right behind. Not sure what inutile is doing but he’s pinging me pretty hard.