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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:00 pm

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Gobbles wagon was originally lead by me/maria. I got cold feet but didn't unvote and Maria/Mena lead the push on the resurgence that took him to actual L-1 instead of fake L-1. PB and FB were on wagon 2, PP was on wagon 1, Mena, Maria, Dats and I were on both.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:01 pm

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Has there been much said about Pink Ball?

His name stands out among those that I'd expect to have more of a presence based around how he's speaking in this game, but I can't actually remember any major events that I can recall actually involving him.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:02 pm

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pink ball has a lot of fluff but not much content
but i wouldn't say he's drowning the thread out either, he's just not being as impactful as he could be imo
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:04 pm

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I think I might be getting thrown off by the extended Skitter30 vs Something_Smart engagement and the discussion around the SK claim.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:06 pm

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I'll have to rethink.

There's still a dissonance to the game that I don't think would naturally exist if the scumteam were all among the lower influence players. I don't have enough information to determine where exactly the dissonance is coming from at the current moment.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:09 pm

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The wagons have been mostly static for quite a few pages now.

That is definitely unnatural.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:12 pm

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In post 1626, Blake Belladonna wrote:Has there been much said about Pink Ball?

His name stands out among those that I'd expect to have more of a presence based around how he's speaking in this game, but I can't actually remember any major events that I can recall actually involving him.
In post 1492, Bingle wrote:
In post 1488, gobbledygook wrote:Now is that a town slip for Pb and not just a Pb thing?
+1. That's what I wanted people's opinions on.

If it's a PB thing and he's not likely to fake a townslip, it also means we can make a few assumptions about his potential scumpartners (that they're not the type to mastermind/talk mechanics in the scum PT.) I think that would slightly reduce the chance of PB scum with SS and Maria and more solidly reduce the chance of PB scum with Mena/skitter.
PB is also firmly "We should lynch gobbles". Don't think he's done much else recently.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 1630, Blake Belladonna wrote:The wagons have been mostly static for quite a few pages now.

That is definitely unnatural.
Yeah a bunch of people were like:
Yeah we should just lynch gobbles and then the game froze
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:16 pm

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In post 1632, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1630, Blake Belladonna wrote:The wagons have been mostly static for quite a few pages now.

That is definitely unnatural.
Yeah a bunch of people were like:
Yeah we should just lynch gobbles and then the game froze
How long ago was this, roughly?
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:17 pm

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Sometime yesterday till now, i would say. Felt this very strongly today
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:17 pm

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How likely is it because of Menalque's absence?
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:18 pm

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In post 1635, Blake Belladonna wrote:How likely is it because of Menalque's absence?
Menalque posted on the site but not in this game during that time.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:20 pm

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I suppose I'm more asking how much influence Menalque has on the game.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 1622, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1618, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1615, skitter30 wrote:gobble would you make a lolkill tonight?
How do you define a lolkill?
someone who is consensus townread or has the potential to be in the next day or so
I mean I wouldn’t kill you or Bingle. But I don’t even know how to evaluate a potentiality like the latter half of your definition implies, so my answer is maybe?
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:21 pm

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In post 1637, Blake Belladonna wrote:I suppose I'm more asking how much influence Menalque has on the game.
Menalque was not really scumhunting after the SK claim, but he did pick it up a little and started pushing Lilith
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:25 pm

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So your answer is yes, then.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:27 pm

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In post 1640, Blake Belladonna wrote:So your answer is yes, then.
I think everyone’s answer to that question is yes. Who doesn’t have the potential be unanimously townread? Seems like a terribly arbitrary definition.

At any rate, I can’t lolkill anyone because I can’t kill anyone. I’m not actually a serial killer. I claimed that so people get their Goodies and feel like they accomplished something with their terrible votes, while also allowing for people to scumhunt. Clearly no one wants to scumhunt which makes me suspicious of those people.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:28 pm

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In post 1637, Blake Belladonna wrote:I suppose I'm more asking how much influence Menalque has on the game.
In post 1639, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1637, Blake Belladonna wrote:I suppose I'm more asking how much influence Menalque has on the game.
Menalque was not really scumhunting after the SK claim, but he did pick it up a little and started pushing Lilith
In post 1640, Blake Belladonna wrote:So your answer is yes, then.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:30 pm

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Oh I thought you were asking about me killing someone.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:32 pm

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Okay. I think I have some grasp of the game now.

Menalque is town.
Bingle is town.
Firebringer is town.

Datisi is likely town.
Chemist1422 is likely town. I suspect he'd have more presence or at least feel more pressure in some way if he was scum. For reference, I recently co-modded a game he was scum in.

I want to say Skitter30 is town, but I don't feel comfortable locking this in yet.
MariaR is a townlean, but this read is fragile.

Something_Smart is a wildcard.

PenguinPower is a slot I am not entirely sure on. My intuition says the way he's approaching the game is scum-motivated based on my view of the game, but it's hard to tell with him.

Pink Ball is likely scum.
Lilith2013 is scum.

Gobbledygook is a claim SK.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:33 pm

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I’m not an SK, I’m a vanilla townie.
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:38 pm

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My vote on Lilith2013 is now a legitimate scumread.

Now that I strongly suspect the current gamestate is a red herring, I think it's much more likely that the more fluffy content posters throughout the earlier stages in the game are the scum slots. Lilith in particular has a lot of fluffy questions early on in the game that aren't meant to achieve anything, and I haven't seen much evidence to show that she's making a serious attempt to solve the game like surface appearances would otherwise show.

There's also the fact that her vote hasn't changed since page 5.
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 1637, Blake Belladonna wrote:I suppose I'm more asking how much influence Menalque has on the game.
He's probably the biggest individual shaker and/or mover.

I'm probably the biggest source of content in that the sum of content about and produced by me is the largest, although I think objectively I've probably not said as much as Mena.

Gobbles and skitts also notable mentions.

PB/Chem/FB/Dats/you/lilith/SS/Maria/PP are all various shades of low impact with spurts of big activity. Of those, Maria, Dats and SS probably had the biggest actual game impact. (Maria's gobbles push, SS defending gobbles, Dats fight with Mena).
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:44 pm

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I should be more active from this point onwards since now I can actually use my desktop again.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:52 pm

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