Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[midwaybear]

my next problem is if you were town you should be taking a stance whether you're confident or not. If you're town you want to put pressure on people to get a read on them. Saying such non-committal statements won't get that reaction and therefore won't gain you as much info.

How is this even alignment indicative?! That’s more of a play style thing.

Of course NDMath has to make it obvious that he’s passing to PB/Dunn just to make himself look more townie
At this rate, town is going to be lynched again today. Hooray for group think.

[Raya36]

my next problem is if you were town you should be taking a stance whether you're confident or not. If you're town you want to put pressure on people to get a read on them. Saying such non-committal statements won't get that reaction and therefore won't gain you as much info.

How is this even alignment indicative?! That’s more of a play style thing.

Is that actually your playstyle though or is it just how you're acting this game since you're scum? If it's your playstyle can you link me to some of your town games that you do this in

[midwaybear]

Scum : https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=82731
Town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=82949
I complain a lot less as scum. Actually, I don’t really complain as either alignment, but whatever.

[midwaybear]

TBH, I don’t think reading these two games would really help. The main points is that I was a lot more obnoxious as town, and a lot more safe as scum.
Take that as you will.

[Pink Ball]

You've been pretty safe in this game ngl

[midwaybear]

You’ve been pretty death tunnely this game ngl
Also, that’s why I said those two games won’t really help.

[Raya36]

So the first thing I notice in your town game is that about 200 posts in you say you scumread 3 people whereas here all your reads are non-committal and not confident. 250 or so posts in you state your 3 scumreads and you give reasoning for all. Very different than your play here still. You had a decently large case about 700 posts in. You were making confident statements about players being scum. I'm actually not seeing any of the unconfident reads you're giving in this game. Also your posts were much longer and more solvey.


In your scum game:
You definitely do take more confident stances than you do here. But in the spoiler I put all of the quotes I found that resemble your non-committal play here.

Spoiler:

"I can see why there's momentum gathering toward him, and I am now suspicious of him"
"Big Chief has the potential to be really helpful, but I'm really split."
" I have a suspicion about DK, so I guess I'll trust DK for now?"
"While this normally would be suspicious, clidd's arguments made sense."
"Normally inactivity is a sign of mafia, but I don't really get a mafia type feeling."
"Also, votato seems a bit opportunistic"
"I think Knightmare has been pretty suspicious recently. I don't know what to think of it because he seemed like a locktown early game..."
"I don't really like the way clidd posts sometimes, but that's sorta harsh."

"readlist
townlean-DK,knightmare
null town-votato
null-freddie
null scum-Lil Singham
scumlean-spring"
(my point being no hard scum)

"knightmare started more cautiously which I like. One thing I didn't like was how he basically associated himself with Baezu"
"I liked his early day contribution and what he thought of everyone else. Although some of the points he made were bad"

"Spoiler: my thoughts about knight,votato"
This one is kinda long but basically it explains all the TvS/TvT/SvS interaction possibilities

"I get a weird feeling from your slot"
"Idk I never really liked freddie, but I know he is new. I don't really want to give him a pass though because we are in lylo"

[Raya36]

If anyone else feels like skimming his iso in those two games just to make sure I'm not tunneling and seeing what I want to see that would be great

[Titus]

I feel so frustrated at the amount of meta requests in this game when the game should be solved by strategic motivations.

Oh and approve the quiz 2020.

[Raya36]

I'm seeing that too Titus, I just like meta to back it up sometimes

[midwaybear]

If anyone else feels like skimming his iso in those two games just to make sure I'm not tunneling and seeing what I want to see that would be great

The only thing I said that remotely resemble what I said there is my read about ABR. You're tunneling.

[Starbuck]

Make sure you bold that so the mod can see it, Titus.

[Titus]

Make sure you bold that so the mod can see it, Titus.

I approved it ages ago. I was just campaigning. We need two more votes. Ideally fast because of the deadline.

Hopefully, we can count on Math. I still feel a little hurt you saved Math over me but at least that might help TSE stop his tunnel unless he tunnels you + NDMath.

[Pink Ball]

TBH, I don’t think reading these two games would really help. The main points is that I was a lot more obnoxious as town, and a lot more safe as scum.
Take that as you will.

Yes I'm tunneling. You can tunnel on scum too

[Pink Ball]

What's the proposed quiz team and who is unchained right now?

[Raya36]

Proposed quiz is me, farside, Unwnd, Starbuck under the plan to run it back again but with Unwnd who is almost for sure town.

I think it's Titus, Dunnstral, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear who are chainless

[Titus]

Proposed quiz is me, farside, Unwnd, Starbuck under the plan to run it back again but with Unwnd who is almost for sure town.

I think it's Titus, Dunnstral, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear who are chainless

Spring is chain less too.

[Starbuck]

Make sure you bold that so the mod can see it, Titus.

I approved it ages ago. I was just campaigning. We need two more votes. Ideally fast because of the deadline.

Hopefully, we can count on Math. I still feel a little hurt you saved Math over me but at least that might help TSE stop his tunnel unless he tunnels you + NDMath.

I feel like you're redeeming the slot immensely, but I'm still not comfortable there. My choices, of who was left, came down to ND, PB, and a far reach on Dunn given his swap abouts recently.

I really disagree with the policy push on ND because I kinda view him like Silent Bob. He isn't a fluffy poster, nor is he over the top aggressive. He seems to say what he means and means what he says, and speaks only when he feels his voice is needed. I can respect that and if I'm totally wrong on him, then y'all can yell at me post-game.

[Raya36]

Right, and spring

[Titus]

The chain less situation worries me because my three scum picks are not likely to save me, TSE will save midway if given the option, and pink ball. Pink Ball is 50/50 on killing me. So that leaves NDMath to vote to save me. I am not optimistic.

[midwaybear]

hmph TSE isn't going to save me because he thinks me flipping town is going to make you all magically sheep him(IT'S NOT)

[Titus]

hmph TSE isn't going to save me because he thinks me flipping town is going to make you all magically sheep him(IT'S NOT)

You flipping town would actually disprove my theory and have me reset. Sheep him no, but reset yes.

[midwaybear]

tbh, I'll give the chain to you over Dunnstral

[Titus]

tbh, I'll give the chain to you over Dunnstral

Why?

[Pink Ball]

The chain less situation worries me because my three scum picks are not likely to save me, TSE will save midway if given the option, and pink ball. Pink Ball is 50/50 on killing me. So that leaves NDMath to vote to save me. I am not optimistic.

50/50? More like... Well yeah 50/50. You don't like the dynamic of fighting spring to death?