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Micro 948: Noughts and Crosses Blitz [Game over!]
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Micro 948: Noughts and Crosses Blitz [Game over!]
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Spoiler: Game stateLast edited by Umlaut on Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:53 am, edited 12 times in total.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- Umlaut
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General Rules
None of these rules supercede or contradict the Forum Rules and Guidelines, all of which are in full force.
Conduct- Don't use orange, it's my color.
- Play to win.
- Don't discuss the game outside of the game until it's over.
- Don't flame. Don't harass. Don't use insults that target minority, disadvantaged, or legally protected classes.
- Keep interpersonal disputes out of the game thread.
- Don't quote or misquote private communications from the moderator.
- Don't use encryption, tiny/hidden/unreadable text, or anything that could be easily confused for such.
- All replacement requests will be taken as serious, irrevocable, and immediate. Once you request replacement you are no longer a player and may not post.
- Don't game the rules, pretend to break the rules, or intentionally test the limits. All pretended violations will be dealt with identically to actual violations.
- Don't break the rules of any other ongoing game in this thread.
- Don't argue moderator actions in the game thread. If you want to dispute a ruling, do so via PM.
Game mechanics
Day- Days begin with a deadline of 72 hours.
- Days will end when one of the following events occurs:
- The deadline is reached.
- A lynch (or no-lynch) is achieved.
- A town-aligned player is modkilled.
- The deadline is reached.
- Votes should be made via the vote tag: “[vote]<playername>[/vote]” or “[v]<playername>[/v]”. Full player names or initial segments thereof are preferred.
- When more than half of living players are voting for the same player, that player will be lynched and the day will end. Votes are irrevocable once a majority is achieved.
- You may vote not to lynch by voting for “No lynch”. When half or more of living players do so, the day will end without a lynch.
- If the day reaches deadline without a majority, there will be no lynch.
- I will interpret malformed votes according to my own discretion. In general, if it looks like a vote, I will probably count it as a vote. I reserve the right to edit malformed votes for easier counting.
- When a majority vote has been achieved but not yet recognized by the moderator, the game is in twilight. Players, including the lynchee, may continue to post during this period.
- Under certain circumstances I may elect to extend the deadline. I will announce in thread if this occurs.
Night- Nights will last 24 hours, or until all living players give me their approval to end the night early.
- During the night, you should be unable to post in the public game thread. If for some reason you are able, doing so is still against the rules.
- The mafia kill should be submitted in the Mafia's private thread. If no kill is submitted, then no kill will occur.
Activity requirements- Players who do not confirm within 24 hoursof receiving their role PM will be replaced.
- Players who do not post for 24 hoursin a single game-day will incur a prod.
- Players who do not post for 12 hoursfollowing a prod will be replaced.
- Players who incur three prods will be replaced.
- At my discretion, excessive “prod-dodging” may result in a mod warning and subsequently in disregard of future dodges.
- If for any reason you are temporarily unable to meet these requirements, you may declare V/LA status in threadand be excused. V/LA declarations must include a definite end date.
- Notwithstanding V/LA status, any player who does not post at all for 3 daysof consecutive day time will be replaced.
- These are minimal requirements, not recommendations; please keep the game active.
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- Umlaut
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Setup Information
This game uses the Noughts and Crosses Mafia setup, designed by Empking.
Roles
2xMafia Goon
1xInnocent Child
6xTownie
Mechanics- Mafia have daytalk.
- Each player occupies a position on a publicly viewable Noughts and Crosses (Tic-Tac-Toe) board. The Innocent Child occupies the central square.
- Whenever a player is lynched, this puts a cross (X) on their square; whenever a player is killed at night, this puts a nought (O) on their square.
- Town wins if all Mafia are dead orthe board has three crosses in a row; Mafia wins if they control half the votesorthe board has three noughts in a row.
- If two win conditions occur at once, the game board will take precedence. E.g., Town wins by placing a third cross in a row even if they lose majority by doing so.
Role PMs
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Innocent Child
Spoiler: Townie“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- Umlaut
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Role PMs have been sent; Players have (expired on 2020-06-13 23:30:00) to confirm. The game will begin once 8/9 players have confirmed.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- Umlaut
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With 8/9 players confirmed, the game begins!
Day 1 has dawned.
Last edited by Umlaut on Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs- Celeste
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Greetings!
Opening Thoughts
Below I've attached a visual representation of optimal game board strategy for both teams in all possible scenarios. This is in no way a hard-and-fast requirement to follow, but I think it will prove a helpful reference.
Bear in mind that while this guide suggests the top left square as the opening move, because the board is blank at this point, all four corners are functionally the same - so if we lynch in a different corner today we can just rotate the guide to match and nothing changes.
Scum will almost certainly nightkill the Innocent Child night 1, not just because they are confirmed town, but also because there are almost no scenarios in which they will not need that square to stay in the game.
Importantly, we need to remember that if both sides play the board optimally, the result will be a draw.
So we should plan on focusing on serious scumhunting while treating the game board as a secondary tool that we can use to manipulate the mafia into making nightkills that benefit us, or risk outing themselves.
I believe today we should lynch somewhere within the four corners of the board. Ideally, we can lynch the scummiest of those four players, or at least lynch someone who will force the mafia to nightkill one of our top suspects - in an ideal world, we could accomplish both.
Game Board Strategy Guide:
Spoiler:
VOTE: Dunnstral
In my experience, Dunnstral is always scum.“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot- Clover Ebi
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Hmhm. This will suffice.In post 7, Clover Ebi wrote:Coming up with a joke on the spot is cruel! Has anyone tried the VOTE: T-bone steak recently?Hectic|Your meaningless words tire me. Please stop wasting my time.- Celeste
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So we can better predict and manipulate their nightkills.
Tic Tac Toe is a broken, terrible game. So broken and terrible that knowing the optimal strategy doesn't change it.“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot- Celeste
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In one of the previous runs, the mafia misplayed and failed to kill the Innocent Child on night 1. This ensured their defeat since day 1 was a mafia lynch. Your information means there is no chance they will misplay now. While running around like a junior detective, did this not cross your mind?Hectic|Your meaningless words tire me. Please stop wasting my time.- Blair
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I wondered the same thing, but center block isn't actually a very good opening move.In post 9, Clover Ebi wrote:Is it bad the first thing that ran through my mind when I saw this set up was if it was optimal to lynch the innocent child?
Because the IC is in the center, they are pretty much doomed to die Night 1. If for some reason they don't, scum are probably trying to avoid setting themselves up to be mechanically lynched the next day - which would be a pretty nice revelation.
P-edit: No, it didn't cross my mind. Genuinely. I cannot fathom anyone not killing the Innocent Child in the center square Night 1. Good lord.“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot- Blair
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That's like playing Hide & Seek and warning me not to remind anyone that they win by hiding.“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot- Clover Ebi
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I don't really think the chart has anything to do with Blairs alignment. You could talk about how one side has more detail than the other, but the likely thing is she just made it pre-game.
pedit: Fair enough. The answer I came to is it's only optimal if a lot of the town agrees on a certain pair probably being scum, but if that's the case you just lynch them.- Clover Ebi
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The ideal play is to lynch someone in our PoE in such a way that scum are forced to also nightkill inside our PoE to block us.“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot- Celeste
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I am the type of person who cannot overlook a good strategy.
So I have no choice but to accept this. But I want to stress that it is only because of my sense of duty.Hectic|Your meaningless words tire me. Please stop wasting my time.- Blair
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I looked up the chart when the role PMs went out, and typed the rest up in real time. Why?“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot- Clover Ebi
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I mean you could be right and this is her trying to get credit and look townie by giving us both sides, but I think realistically this isn't something we can really push and if Blair is scum this isn't gonna be the selling point.
pedit: Well that sounds nice, it's rare for town to agree on poe even though I would love the idea of it. I think mafia has the advantage of being very read flexible because of this game, I just wanna take that away from them.- Celeste
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I guess what I'm saying is, if I can lynch my #2 scumread so that scum have to nightkill my #1 suspect to block us from 3-in-a-row, I'm going to favor that.
If our reads are any good we can force them to nightkill themselves.“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot - Blair
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