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[Datisi]

this might be very stupid but mena do you ever post gifs as town?

[Almost50]

Does anyone know if Maria does play for pocketing people?

Maria has a wide range of play styles she could almost do anything IMHO.

[Blake Belladonna]

Sidebar: did you make the avatars yourself, Blake?

I do not draw.

I do resize all my avatars and have done some minor edits to some of them. For example, this one did not have a transparent background when I found it.

[Something_Smart]

Correct.

I was looking to indicate what I was referring to without having to link it, but it was not precise, no.

Fair enough. Just making sure we're on the same page.

[Blake Belladonna]

@Blake: My point about Maria staying silent about me announcing I'm targeting her is the strongest point in my view. If I were to say I am targeting Blake tonight, how would you react? Would you say something like "That's fine by me" or "I would rather you didn't announce that in case there's a BD"? Or would you just ignore it and not comment about it? Assuming you're Town in that case, I mean.

I don't know how exactly I would react on my main account since it would vastly depend on my mood, but Blake would very likely ignore this as either alignment.

Maria didn't even try to engage me -as of yet- and didn't actually engage anyone in any AI manner so far. If she was a PT (thus trying to avoid being a loud voice on D1) she knows well that Scum will most likely target her with something or another tonight for that. Like, if I was Scum and Maria wasn't on my team and I saw her doing practically nothing I would most certainly kill or RB her just to be safe. If there's no JOAT in play killing her N1 seems like the only option though.

Maria's no noob as either alignment and she knows exactly what she's doing and what the consequences are. She also knows it's hard to get her lynched without a hard guilty on her.

Keep in mind that this playerlist is pretty stacked. I would be shocked if MariaR was killed for being MariaR in a game with you, me, skitter30, and Bingle all in the game, all of whom I have seen (or in my case, experienced,) being very high priority nightkills depending on the game. MariaR is also one of those players that will inevitably gain traction as a scumread at some point in the game due to her relatively difficulty to read and skill at playing scum, so I don't expect she is a high priority kill for most scumteams in this playerlist unless there's other important reasons to do so or there are no better kills.

The second point is regarding her vote on gobble without saying a thing about S_S (the counterwagon) at all. ISO her. She says she wants gobble or skitter and no mention of S_S (neither positive or negative) at all. That's probably her keeping her options wide open in the future to go back and push S_S (if he is Town) or even bus him (if he is Scum and she needs the towncred to get to endgame).

I mean, I could vote S_S to L-1 and force a claim out of him now if that's what people want me to do, but if S_S is town I think it's best to keep his role for himself.

I'm curious why this is specific to MariaR? I did something similar in that other than me saying that one of him and Skitter30 are scum earlier in the game, I've done little to directly sort him or really anything regarding him for most of the game.

[Almost50]

I agree there are many of us that may seem like high priority kills, but that's kind of my point too. If you know chances are slim that you would be the NK on N1 due to the pl being stacked, then why the hell try to single out yourself for being the least contributor of the list? If you are town scum will deduce that you are more likely a valuable PR than those who are active and contributing.

As for why Maria? It's because I struggle to get a read on her every time we play together. I think I wrote you off as group scum somewhere in the opening 40-50 pages of the game, and had you promoted to a full TR somewhere later (I do have the markers on my file, but I don't recall the specific posts. You have one small and big pluses, thus a TR of some sort of strength)

[Almost50]

I only have one minus next to Maria's name and a remark that say "most posts are NAI"

[Menalque]

you, me, skitter30, and Bingle all in the game, all of whom I have seen (or in my case, experienced,) being very high priority nightkills depending on the game

Oof, that moment when you don’t get lumped in the high priority night kill group

[Menalque]

this might be very stupid but mena do you ever post gifs as town?

I genuinely have no idea but if I haven’t before there’s a brand new meta on me!

(I’m p sure I post gifs as both alignments)

[Menalque]

okay fine

i was gonna respond something along the lines of "i put on a persona only when playing scum, as town my reactions are genuine, do you really not see the difference" and also you legit got my hopes up that my scumgame's improved but if you haven't even read the main thread ISO of the game well alriGHTY THEN

Well hey it’s improved to the point that I wasn’t reading it going “lmao how has no one called datisi scum here she’s playing super off her towngame” but then it became hard trying to analyse what was genuinely scummy or not scummy in your posting and I stopped trying because brain tired

Also I do lol but this feels like basically the most you’ve talked to me in days and I appreciate it

that lowkey feels like a very backhanded compliment

also you're welcome?

See we were having a lovely moment and then you take this as a backhanded compliment instead a genuine one because ????

I’m not saying you were bad as scum I’m saying I think I used to (after that first game lmao) pick up on your scum games really effectively (partly bc I was reading them all) and that I wouldn’t have been able to in b&s

That’s just like a straight compliment

Why don’t you ever just shitpost with me anymore

Pedit: ur welcome I went to a lot of effort finding those gifs

i love the "after that first game"

maybe (maybe) it was an error on my part but it did kinda feel like it

also sorry i was under the impression that we're having a Serious Sorting Session

In my defense you were a totally unknown quantity there

I mean, it wasn’t tho. I’m really starting to feel like you don’t give me the benefit of the doubt in a lot of cases tbh dats

And well, no, I did that already rn I wanna chill have some fun, read other people Trying Hard and shitpost a bit

And then lynch S_S

[Menalque]

How confident do you feel about lilith being scum, Blake?

Also, I think the avi you linked is maybe my favourite of them

[Pink Ball]

I use the word "fiddlefaddle" only as town!

[Menalque]

I sort of think I’m starting to scumread Blake tbh

[Menalque]

I use the word "fiddlefaddle" only as town!

Trust tell, ur banned

What do you think of Blake I forgot?

[Menalque]

God, I need a flip, I’m going insane

[PenguinPower]

Who can I hammer?

[Menalque]

We’re getting close to an S_S flip I believe

[skitter30]

i'm around for a bit, catching up now, like ten pages behind

[lilith2013]

VOTE: gobbles

please vote gobbles instead if you intend to end the day now

[lilith2013]

that’s L-2 again i think

[skitter30]

Now about this TR you have on me. I claimed Scum. The same thing I did in that game where you SR me the minute I subbed in. WHAT DIFFERENCE did you see here that wasn't there is my question.

i'm not sure what game that was but you feel like town!you here

[skitter30]

i think fire is town

How certain are you on him? because I have him as null (and with me failing to have as many SRs as I should he 's in my PoE)

only like slightly above null at this point i think
he's def not in my lynch pool today tho

[Menalque]

that’s L-2 again i think

Pretty sure it’s L-1?

[Menalque]

Who was the unvote?

[skitter30]

I also think (pb/fb) is likely to have a scum in it, and then somewhere in (skitt/Blake/Maria/dats/lil) is the other.

is this universe if ss is scum?