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[Menalque]

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Are you saying those are people he suspected?
You think that scum!me lolkills pb out of everyone on n1 because he was suspecting me at some point in the day but had backed off and wasnt even pushing me by the end?
Because if so you have a very offbase understanding of how i'd make nks as scum

Pedit i would not have killed pb as scum last night

Well no, not just that. I also think that he’s a lowkey enough kill that he doesn’t make you look obviously scum by like D3/4. Because if you killed off let’s say Blake, then bingle, then me and you were still alive in lylo after having led a bunch of mislynches then I think it would be doable for scum you to survive but much harder

Whereas I think killing someone who had broadly good reads (at least 1?) but wasn’t pushing you at the time of their death, and who wasn’t like a ~*massice presence*~ in thread helps shield you by also leaving unclear who else in those names might be scum instead of you. So he’s a very strategic kill in that sense I think

[skitter30]

Yes, and i'm p sure scum are responsible for the lynch so

I will admit that that does seem like an unusual nk @mena tho

[skitter30]

That's not how scum!me would have approached the nk last night. High-key threats cirst, and that logic would have been more appropriate like n3 or n4 or so.

[Menalque]

i'm p sure i remember ponk bill saying he was literally not even paying attention to my posts and that he has no read on me, but that he will "start now" so

pedit: skitt gobbles is dead already

Yeah I remember that too, but given that he expresses some degree of town on basically everyone else that still makes me think you were probably within his potential pool given that he only actually expressed a scumread on 3 people

[Datisi]

And i very much want to concentrate today on the people who were responsible for the awful wagon yesterday

pedit: skitt gobbles is dead already

this was meant as a joke how town shouldn't seriously claim scum but ok

(yes i do agree there's maybe probably scum on wagon at some point but i'm shite at VCA so lel)

[Menalque]

That's not how scum!me would have approached the nk last night. High-key threats cirst, and that logic would have been more appropriate like n3 or n4 or so.

Yes but highkey threats are exactly the people who you’d be competing with later in the WIFOM olympics of “why is X still alive?”

[Datisi]

i'm p sure i remember ponk bill saying he was literally not even paying attention to my posts and that he has no read on me, but that he will "start now" so

pedit: skitt gobbles is dead already

Yeah I remember that too, but given that he expresses some degree of town on basically everyone else that still makes me think you were probably within his potential pool given that he only actually expressed a scumread on 3 people

mhm?

[skitter30]

I dont know what else to say. You're just wrong

[Menalque]

Like let’s say the NKs were like Blake -> bingle -> me -> pure boi

That would be much more questionable for you imo, whereas if you were to reverse it, provided that bingle/Blake didn’t have enough traction to actually lynch scum in the meantime then it would act as a huge shield for you in the lategame and give you better mislynch targets

[Menalque]

i'm p sure i remember ponk bill saying he was literally not even paying attention to my posts and that he has no read on me, but that he will "start now" so

pedit: skitt gobbles is dead already

Yeah I remember that too, but given that he expresses some degree of town on basically everyone else that still makes me think you were probably within his potential pool given that he only actually expressed a scumread on 3 people

mhm?

1778

[skitter30]

I dont think bingle is a high priority nk for me either

This just isnt really how i think about making nks. First high-key threats, and then i finetune the gamestate on later nights based on people's reads. High-key threats go first tho, and pb just isnt one to scum!me

This is frustrating

[Datisi]

i'm p sure i remember ponk bill saying he was literally not even paying attention to my posts and that he has no read on me, but that he will "start now" so

pedit: skitt gobbles is dead already

Yeah I remember that too, but given that he expresses some degree of town on basically everyone else that still makes me think you were probably within his potential pool given that he only actually expressed a scumread on 3 people

mhm?

1778

i'm not questioning your sources, i'm asking what that information means to you

[Menalque]

i'm p sure i remember ponk bill saying he was literally not even paying attention to my posts and that he has no read on me, but that he will "start now" so

pedit: skitt gobbles is dead already

Yeah I remember that too, but given that he expresses some degree of town on basically everyone else that still makes me think you were probably within his potential pool given that he only actually expressed a scumread on 3 people

mhm?

1778

i'm not questioning your sources, i'm asking what that information means to you

The information means that I now know that I can trust pb (sorry I doubted u) and so I’m interested in knowing who he thought was scum

[Menalque]

I dont think bingle is a high priority nk for me either

This just isnt really how i think about making nks. First high-key threats, and then i finetune the gamestate on later nights based on people's reads. High-key threats go first tho, and pb just isnt one to scum!me

This is frustrating

Who would be a high priority NK for you then?

[Datisi]

The information means that I now know that I can trust pb (sorry I doubted u) and so I’m interested in knowing who he thought was scum

stop playing around, you know what i'm asking. you did that for pb and gobble, my name overlaps. give some conclusions what that means to you

[skitter30]

I dont think bingle is a high priority nk for me either

This just isnt really how i think about making nks. First high-key threats, and then i finetune the gamestate on later nights based on people's reads. High-key threats go first tho, and pb just isnt one to scum!me

This is frustrating

Who would be a high priority NK for you then?

You or ank

[skitter30]

Also ank i thought more about your pp read overnight and i thought his snap unvote of gobbles when the first gobble wagon hit l-1 (he thought) was townie

[Datisi]

why is that townie?

[Menalque]

The information means that I now know that I can trust pb (sorry I doubted u) and so I’m interested in knowing who he thought was scum

stop playing around, you know what i'm asking. you did that for pb and gobble, my name overlaps. give some conclusions what that means to you

Okay, it’s somewhat concerning but also I kind of think you’d kill me or skitter if you were scum on N1 because if I remember right you play scum quite solidly. Tbh I think I’m more interested in lilith today off the back of their reads than you

[Menalque]

I dont think bingle is a high priority nk for me either

This just isnt really how i think about making nks. First high-key threats, and then i finetune the gamestate on later nights based on people's reads. High-key threats go first tho, and pb just isnt one to scum!me

This is frustrating

Who would be a high priority NK for you then?

You or ank

Hmm. Why me?

[skitter30]

I dont think scum have that 'omg he's about to be lynched let me unvote' snap reaction like a townie would
Plus i think the wagon may have gone to lynch if he kept om so i'm not sure why he as scum would unvote just there

[skitter30]

You're one of the best people at reading me in this pl

[Datisi]

The information means that I now know that I can trust pb (sorry I doubted u) and so I’m interested in knowing who he thought was scum

stop playing around, you know what i'm asking. you did that for pb and gobble, my name overlaps. give some conclusions what that means to you

Okay, it’s somewhat concerning but also I kind of think you’d kill me or skitter if you were scum on N1 because

if I remember right you play scum quite solidly

. Tbh I think I’m more interested in lilith today off the back of their reads than you

what does this mean in this context?

[Firebringer]

I was poisoned last night guys

[Firebringer]

pink ball kill is weird

he was in my poe

VOTE: SS