Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Firebringer]

i'm just oFfEnDeD i'm not included in "game is deeply fucked if this person is scum" pool

u can be 'game is gonna be lightly fucked if this person is scum pile.'

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Spoiler: Mod VC

lilith2013 [3]:

Menalque [2433], Almost50 [2467], PenguinPower [2470]

Something_Smart [2]:

skitter30 [2389], Firebringer [2424]

Not Voting [6]:

Bingle, MariaR, Something_Smart, lilith2013, Blake Belladonna, Datisi [2585]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.

[Menalque]

Again, I’m kinda thinking if *both* of them are town things are /very/ wrong not just a bit wrong so I think flipping them first and then going from there is best

We still have one mislynch left even if we have 2 kills tonight right?

[Menalque]

i've called literally every person in that block town and 3/4 are townreading me tf you on about

Idk it doesn’t feel cliquey idk what u want from me

[skitter30]

the thought did cross my mind that you're agreeing with me to chain mislynches in {lilith/ss}
and i feel like if i could barely get the wagon up to like l-5 yesterday and there's 2 votes on him today (including mine!) i'm not sure how it will have more traction when i'm not here

[Firebringer]

also fire's reads also kinda molding themselves are mine is weird

lol no

[Menalque]

Like I feel like you may be townreading them but you haven’t been making posts like “I can’t see skitter claiming vig if she’s anything other than the vig” or bingle going on about how he wouldn’t have killed PB either

[Datisi]

i want to see how much paranoia can i shove you in

pedit: sigh @mena

[Menalque]

the thought did cross my mind that you're agreeing with me to chain mislynches in {lilith/ss}
and i feel like if i could barely get the wagon up to like l-5 yesterday and there's 2 votes on him today (including mine!) i'm not sure how it will have more traction when i'm not here

I think lilith is a much better proxy for Blake, the two dead townies both thought she was scum, she’s seen a surprising level of resistance throughout the game so far

Idk I don’t feel like you’ve been seriously wagon building on S_S and if you did I think you’d have more votes there?

[Menalque]

Imagine writing in pedits instead of just clicking through them to boost that post count up

[Firebringer]

Idk I don’t feel like you’ve been seriously wagon building on S_S and if you did I think you’d have more votes there?

this is dumb

[Menalque]

Idk I don’t feel like you’ve been seriously wagon building on S_S and if you did I think you’d have more votes there?

this is dumb

Why is this dumb firebringer?

[Bingle]

ok can you then review why scum!bingle kills you first here?

She's wrong, btw.

I would probably kill her exactly second for this reason. I'm strong enough as as scum to survive Blake for a couple days, and I'd bet on her knowing I fear her to pocket her.

I can explain why scum me wouldn't kill PB, even if that's a pretty irrelevant point.

I probably would have taken out PP as a tough mislynch (if I liked where my partners were, game state wise) or Mena as a way to shake things up and take control of the thread (if I thought my partners were in danger).

[skitter30]

... i've been loudly trying to wagon him since like post 600 ...
one thing that i'm baffled by blake rn is after my first thing with ss she thought there was scum in {me, ss} but since she thinks i'm town i would then expect her to go to scum!ss

[skitter30]

like there's literally no universe where you can say in good faith that i haven't been trying to wagon ss, taht's like literally all i've been trying to do for the past 80 pages or so

[Firebringer]

Idk I don’t feel like you’ve been seriously wagon building on S_S and if you did I think you’d have more votes there?

this is dumb

Why is this dumb firebringer?

because ur using circular reasoning.

if X to happen Y were to happen, but for Y to happen X would have had to.
Like come on.

[Menalque]

ok can you then review why scum!bingle kills you first here?

She's wrong, btw.

I would probably kill her exactly second for this reason. I'm strong enough as as scum to survive Blake for a couple days, and I'd bet on her knowing I fear her to pocket her.

I can explain why scum me wouldn't kill PB, even if that's a pretty irrelevant point.

I probably would have taken out PP as a tough mislynch (if I liked where my partners were, game state wise) or Mena as a way to shake things up and take control of the thread (if I thought my partners were in danger).

I think you’d only kill me if I were right tbh

[Firebringer]

... i've been loudly trying to wagon him since like post 600 ...
one thing that i'm baffled by blake rn is after my first thing with ss she thought there was scum in {me, ss} but since she thinks i'm town i would then expect her to go to scum!ss

need to shout louder.

[skitter30]

and yes the lack of more votes is part of what's weird about it ... we agree that i'm town and if i'm loudly pushing a mislynch don't you think that scum would have joined this push by now?

[Bingle]

To be clear, I think Blake's assumption is a reasonable one for her to make and she is correct in that she is the scariest town player to scum Bingle. I just like to play WIFOM games with my scumkills.

[Firebringer]

and yes the lack of more votes is part of what's weird about it ... we agree that i'm town and if i'm loudly pushing a mislynch don't you think that scum would have joined this push by now?

well ur kind of pushing away my vote by saying ss if town i am scum. So......................maybe scum don't feel like bussing.

[Menalque]

... i've been loudly trying to wagon him since like post 600 ...
one thing that i'm baffled by blake rn is after my first thing with ss she thought there was scum in {me, ss} but since she thinks i'm town i would then expect her to go to scum!ss

like there's literally no universe where you can say in good faith that i haven't been trying to wagon ss, taht's like literally all i've been trying to do for the past 80 pages or so

I don’t think I’ve seen you ask people to vote with you that much? Like you’ve been saying why you wanna lynch S_S but you haven’t been (I don’t think) asking individual players or groups of players to vote with you that much and then following up with them if they’re hesitant to try to get them to vote there. I think you’re kinda doing it with me now, but I don’t think you’ve done that specifically that much and that’s what I mean by “wagon building”

[Bingle]

I think you’d only kill me if I were right tbh

God no. My nightkills are almost never about people being right.

If you're wrong and loud you can reevaluate. If you're dead, you can't oppose me pocketing the people I know I can pocket and take over.

If there ARE people who are right about my partners, I need to take over.

[skitter30]

bingle given that gobble was town who is scum now?

[Blake Belladonna]

I find it highly amusing how many players are expressing that I'm either a scumread or a PoE read, and yet nobody has tried to wagon me yet.

[Menalque]

and yes the lack of more votes is part of what's weird about it ... we agree that i'm town and if i'm loudly pushing a mislynch don't you think that scum would have joined this push by now?

If we lynch SS tonight will you promise to shoot in a pool that contains lil?