Mini Normal 2146: Cute Pets Game Over, Town wins

[Battle Mage]

Klick is it the right play for possible bps or role blockers to claim here or no

BPs should probably not claim? I personally would basically never claim BP or Commuter if I was one on principle, unless it was necessary. For RBs it would be situational based on if they feel like they caused the no-kill.

Yeah I'm BP, and quite happy to claim!

[bob3141]

Ive seen several scum watchers before.

For scum to have a watcher it would mean we have full roster of visiting roles. and we have 2 confirmed

flipys role. And a role that blocks a kill.

My gut says its a roleblocker as if we had a doc/rolestopper this game it would prob of been on flippy

[Battle Mage]

Idk what proxy vote means man, i assume it's something like saying you'll vote the same guy than said guy does?

And what is your current stance on Prana, does his absence of result make him more or less susp in your opinion?

yeah it means you give me your vote and so I get a double-vote basically. It's a good way to make a friend and ally.

The absence of a result is disappointing, not hugely surprising - probably doesnt change much. The lack of a kill makes him less susp I think. Overall I don't know if I buy it, but I'm willing to give him at least another day, given we still have good numbers. If scum were really stupid enough to try and kill Prana last night, we should probably be looking in the pool of people who also seemed to think he claimed they tried to Flippynips. I think we're looking at a really poor quality scumteam here.

[Battle Mage]

Ive seen several scum watchers before.

For scum to have a watcher it would mean we have full roster of visiting roles. and we have 2 confirmed

flipys role. And a role that blocks a kill.

My gut says its a roleblocker as if we had a doc/rolestopper this game it would prob of been on flippy

Prana's role is more powerful than Flippy's. If they're both town, I guess maybe scum gambled? A doctor is WAY more likely than a roleblocker, given the roleblocker would have a slimmer chance of success, Doc would be 50-50 at worst given lack of big brains on red team.

[PranaDevil]

I mean... if my claim is fake, and if I watched someone who someone else visited... then it would be pretty stupid of me to say "nobody visited X", because it's as good as random that I target someone nobody visited.

Also, Flippy, if town, is a great choice for a scum target (just as I would be) so targeting him means, if he died, I could announce that result in thread.

Evidently nobody died, and nobody visited Flippy. So we gain no info regarding that.

As far as Flippy being scum... I think I trust him as town, I have no clue what role Flippy would have where scum would be handing out fruit.

I'm happy with trusting Flippy and Una for the time being.

[bob3141]

Ive seen several scum watchers before.

For scum to have a watcher it would mean we have full roster of visiting roles. and we have 2 confirmed

flipys role. And a role that blocks a kill.

My gut says its a roleblocker as if we had a doc/rolestopper this game it would prob of been on flippy

Prana's role is more powerful than Flippy's. If they're both town, I guess maybe scum gambled? A doctor is WAY more likely than a roleblocker, given the roleblocker would have a slimmer chance of success, Doc would be 50-50 at worst given lack of big brains on red team.

This is teh thing the odds of a doc/rolestopper protecting prana is very low.

Prana was heavily scum read and only saved by his claim.

zippy is one shot cop with good odds of making a clear. A player who after his role claim was widely town read.


While prana still was.

[Klick]

How's that work?

I don’t really remember what actually ccs it but it’s more protective, right? I saw no kill and I’m wondering if we have a doc or something but I vaguely remember having that combo together in a game is super op

Watcher + Doc is super OP because they can just target each other and force a 1-for-1.

Im a bit put off from caring about this atm when I try to read the game and interpret things to the best ofy ability and get condescending bullshit from Una+Prana in response

[bob3141]

9/10 the doc always protects zippy.

And as klict said. scum would need something to balance. And most options end with a town watcher being killed. As the most likely one is strongman

[notscience]

Neighborize me klick

[Klick]

That would be a party
Can we invite Hoopla

[notscience]

Yes.

Save the hoopla, save the world.

[notscience]

I take it you’ve come around to me being town?

[Klick]

I'm getting there. You're not a priority lynch atm anyway. Una!town makes you significantly more likely to be town.

I'll reread... Tonight or tomorrow, and see if anything sticks out with new info

[notscience]

It’s weird to think that all of the 3 ending wagons from yesterday were on town. It doesn’t make sense at all.

[Klick]

Who are you counting as the third, Hoopla or Prana? I'm assuming Hoops?

Either scum was absolutely loving yesterday or one of Prana/Hoopla is scum. Either way, I think we have a sensible way forward.

[Hiraki]

Vote: Hoopla

[notscience]

I was counting prana but that makes all four.

Occams says prana imo.

[Battle Mage]

Ive seen several scum watchers before.

For scum to have a watcher it would mean we have full roster of visiting roles. and we have 2 confirmed

flipys role. And a role that blocks a kill.

My gut says its a roleblocker as if we had a doc/rolestopper this game it would prob of been on flippy

Prana's role is more powerful than Flippy's. If they're both town, I guess maybe scum gambled? A doctor is WAY more likely than a roleblocker, given the roleblocker would have a slimmer chance of success, Doc would be 50-50 at worst given lack of big brains on red team.

This is teh thing the odds of a doc/rolestopper protecting prana is very low.

Prana was heavily scum read and only saved by his claim.

zippy is one shot cop with good odds of making a clear. A player who after his role claim was widely town read.


While prana still was.

If I was a doc, I was protecting Prana last night. If Prana was town, she could obviously watch Nips, and so scum couldnt kill him anyway. Therefore scum would have to target Prana. Additionally, if Prana was scum, she couldnt kill Nips anyway because she would be lynched today unless she faked a guilty.

[Battle Mage]

9/10 the doc always protects zippy.

And as klict said. scum would need something to balance. And most options end with a town watcher being killed. As the most likely one is strongman

Please see my previous post which explains why you are wrong here. Unless 9/10 docs are incompetent.

[UnaBombaH]

Im a bit put off from caring about this atm when I try to read the game and interpret things to the best ofy ability and get condescending bullshit from Una+Prana in response

I'm sorry if you misread that as condescending.
I was just a bit annoyed, because it really seemed to me like you were pulling a stupid reason to scumread Prana out of you know where.

Also - I'm not sold on town!Prana yet.
Their "result"/result is one thing, but my read on them so far doesn't change at all from that.

I'm considering a few options because of that no-kill.
IF we have a roleblocker, I'd even consider outing that to get a soft guilty? No?
It would've meant that we got extremely lucky, but that's what happens sometimes, I guess.

[UnaBombaH]

If I was a doc, I was protecting Prana last night. If Prana was town, she could obviously watch Nips, and so scum couldnt kill him anyway. Therefore scum would have to target Prana. Additionally, if Prana was scum, she couldnt kill Nips anyway because she would be lynched today unless she faked a guilty.

This is correct.

[Battle Mage]

If I was a doc, I was protecting Prana last night. If Prana was town, she could obviously watch Nips, and so scum couldnt kill him anyway. Therefore scum would have to target Prana. Additionally, if Prana was scum, she couldnt kill Nips anyway because she would be lynched today unless she faked a guilty.

This is correct.

love you man, and yes I'm sure any PRs can crumb with sufficient discretion to avoid needing to out themselves. Apart from me of course.

[UnaBombaH]

But now - to every-fking-one of you here.
I'm off to start preparing for my "getting blasted" extravaganza.
I'm normally a social butterfly, and all this social distancing has been a pain in the ass, so meeting my closest friends (responsible setup, trust me )for the first time in a long time makes me giddy already.

See you later!

[Battle Mage]

But now - to every-fking-one of you here.
I'm off to start preparing for my "getting blasted" extravaganza.
I'm normally a social butterfly, and all this social distancing has been a pain in the ass, so meeting my closest friends (responsible setup, trust me )for the first time in a long time makes me giddy already.

See you later!

you're getting ready to meet up with friends....at 11pm? it's lucky you're conftown here.

[notscience]

Town
Hoops
Agar
Cooldog
Gyp
Nippyflips
Klick
Bob

I don’t wanna Lynch any of these people

Post after added una and gobbles

What do you think klick