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[Truth]

I am reading. I don't remember everything. I am suspicious of Osuka as well so I can help here.

VOTE: Osuka

[LicketyQuickety]

I am reading. I don't remember everything. I am suspicious of Osuka as well so I can help here.

VOTE: Osuka

How could you possibly have missed that? It's on the same page you said people were too focussed on your claim that I pointed out Osuka is too focussed on your claim. How exactly DID you miss that?

[LicketyQuickety]

Currently I am trying to figure out if Truth is TSTBS or just Scum.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

lean town on Nauci

You're just biased towards their avatar aren't you.

I thought her questioning Glitch was towny.

Although rereading the game today, I don't really think that's as ai as I thought it was

[osuka]

I am reading. I don't remember everything. I am suspicious of Osuka as well so I can help here.

VOTE: Osuka

How could you possibly have missed that? It's on the same page you said people were too focussed on your claim that I pointed out Osuka is too focussed on your claim. How exactly DID you miss that?

he actually can be forgiven for missing your "push" because honestly I'm staggered that you dared call it a push in the first place

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Popopo. You will be my voting slave

Spoiler:

More than 2 masons in a mini setup sounds implausible. A hood would be more likely for that.

Truth has all but admitted it's a hood. It's a hood until proven otherwise.

Do you feel we have a legitimate claim 7 pages in?

Do you think Truth is telling the truth about his role?

Why are you trying to avoid RVS?

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VOTE: LicketyQuickety Consider it a reward for your...effort

?

We were already comfortably out of RVS by the time I got to the thread

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Looker, why did you vote for Quick?

[osuka]

for context, here's your iso into a search for "osuka":

59 does not come from any town with an iq that has anywhere near 3 digits

what do you think the average iq for players on this site is

i suppose you have a point

The average IQ on this site is almost definitely above 100.

i'm starting to have serious doubts that you're mason

59 does not come from any town with an iq that has anywhere near 3 digits

I will ignore your insult and point out the obvious: You are shading me without advocating my lynch. You are testing the waters to see if others are open to pushing me, in which case you would join. That is what it looks like to me.

that's just not true at all. i'm calling your stupid plays out as what they are: stupid plays. I'm not advocating for anyone's lynch and if you legitimately believe that, youre delusional

That is exactly my point. You are calling me out and shading me while not advocating my lynch. This looks like a mafia play to me. If people agree with you and start voting me, I expect you will then be fine with my lynch, but right now, you are not pushing it because it may make you look like mafia if not enough people get behind it.

He's actually defending you there...

Could I suggest we move on from this discussion for now and pretend it didn't happen?

As for the arguments to not no lynch, my thinking was that people usually no lynch on even numbers because it makes no difference in the number of lynches left and gives our roles more information. Since we will likely go to even numbers at some point this game due to a doctor saving me or my buddies, why not no lynch on the first day?

omegalul what planet do you live on? NL is almost universally bad unless you're in mylo

you're literally going to give me an aneurysm if you keep talking about the game, you, and your buddies the way you are. it's giving me an almost unbearable urge to put my head through the wall

there's also zero guarantee that there is only one killing role. that means no vig, no neutral-aligned killer, and no multiball (though this last one is pretty unlikely)

This is kinda Scummy.

It seems OTT.

It also seems like you are not doing anything at all except complaining about how bad Truth is playing. I haven't really seen you do any Scum hunting. Your completely focussed on the claim and nothing else. Don't like this look from you. If you are as smart as you think you are, you would just ignore Truth and hunt elsewhere.

Well, does anyone have any strong feelings of mafia from any other players? I would be fine with lynching but it doesn't seem like anyone has any leads.

I've pushed like 3-4 people besides you. Given I was the first person to question your claim, I would sorta hope that you would have picked up on that.

Who are these 3-4?

GL, Looker, Osuka. Are you even reading or what?

EBWOP

[LicketyQuickety]

I am reading. I don't remember everything. I am suspicious of Osuka as well so I can help here.

VOTE: Osuka

How could you possibly have missed that? It's on the same page you said people were too focussed on your claim that I pointed out Osuka is too focussed on your claim. How exactly DID you miss that?

he actually can be forgiven for missing your "push" because honestly I'm staggered that you dared call it a push in the first place

I didn't call it a push.

[osuka]

so to recap:

1. game-unrelated miscellaneous comment on my ad hominem;
2. interaction with a different slot altogether pointing out that their push on me is not, in your view, based on an accurate interpretation of my post;
3. pointing out that you think my post it "kinda scummy"
4. claiming that you pushed me

[osuka]

I am reading. I don't remember everything. I am suspicious of Osuka as well so I can help here.

VOTE: Osuka

How could you possibly have missed that? It's on the same page you said people were too focussed on your claim that I pointed out Osuka is too focussed on your claim. How exactly DID you miss that?

he actually can be forgiven for missing your "push" because honestly I'm staggered that you dared call it a push in the first place

I didn't call it a push.

are you having a stroke?

Well, does anyone have any strong feelings of mafia from any other players? I would be fine with lynching but it doesn't seem like anyone has any leads.

I've pushed like 3-4 people besides you. Given I was the first person to question your claim, I would sorta hope that you would have picked up on that.

Who are these 3-4?

GL, Lucky, Osuka. Are you even reading or what?

[osuka]

let me emphasize this just so there's literally no question on anyone's mind

[osuka]

I've pushed like 3-4 people besides you. Given I was the first person to question your claim, I would sorta hope that you would have picked up on that.

I've pushed like 3-4 people besides you.

Who are these 3-4?

GL, Lucky, Osuka. Are you even reading or what?

[LicketyQuickety]

so to recap:

1. game-unrelated miscellaneous comment on my ad hominem;
2. interaction with a different slot altogether pointing out that their push on me is not, in your view, based on an accurate interpretation of my post;
3. pointing out that you think my post it "kinda scummy"
4. claiming that you pushed me

I'd love for you to push me as Scum at this point. It would actually make you look pretty bad considering I have a few votes on me for really no reason so this could just be an excuse to push "next to top Scummyness".

Plus, you've misrepped my read on you. I said you were wasting time, not actually pushing the claim.

[osuka]

VOTE: lq
this is the most stunning display of self-contradiction and sheer lack of sense that i've seen in a long time

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I thought it would be a good idea if one of the Masons claimed so that doctors could be used on me. In hindsight I should have checked with my buddies first.

I mean, there isn't always a doctor

Also if you just claimed Miller by itself, the odds of scum nk'ing you were going to be so small. So if you didn't want to die, you should've just claimed Miller...?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

i meant to quote the whole post there.

So in case of a lynch without any info, we're more likely to hit town than mafia. Accordingly, we have to get more info on scum from the lynch than the value of losing a player.

I'm sure that we're marginally more likely to hit mafia with this method on the first day than a completely random RNG lynch but that is not the test IMO.

The real test is whether the net information gained from the reactions of people from being pressured outweighs the high chance of a potential loss of a townie. When I say net information I also mean to include negative utility information for town such as the fact that the mafia knows of the existence of a masonry when it did not need to.

This logic works better the more investigative roles there are in the game though because the more there are the more it makes sense to wait for a night.

I haven't seen anything yet to lose a townie in a 13 player game so far.

VOTE: NO LYNCH

Where have you played forum mafia before?

[LicketyQuickety]

let me emphasize this just so there's literally no question on anyone's mind

And let me emphasize something:

theres really not that much content from other players, but i'm taking notes here and i just don't have a lot to go off of in terms of a good scumread.

So you think you have done more than me or are you just OMGUSing me pure and straight up?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I am okay with not lynching today. Going to even numbers alive on a day is bad, but if a doctor protects me we would actually be back on odd numbers. And not lynching on the first day is better than later on because of the proportion of mafia and town.

VOTE: no lynch

wat

[osuka]

let me emphasize this just so there's literally no question on anyone's mind

And let me emphasize something:

theres really not that much content from other players, but i'm taking notes here and i just don't have a lot to go off of in terms of a good scumread.

So you think you have done more than me or are you just OMGUSing me pure and straight up?

no, i'm saying that the content you just put up is bad enough that I think i can get behind your lynch for reasons of alignment or policy, whichever more applicable

[LicketyQuickety]

let me emphasize this just so there's literally no question on anyone's mind

And let me emphasize something:

theres really not that much content from other players, but i'm taking notes here and i just don't have a lot to go off of in terms of a good scumread.

So you think you have done more than me or are you just OMGUSing me pure and straight up?

no

Then shut it. I've already helped work out the claim more than you, I've pushed stuff more than you, I've Scum hunted more than you, I've gamesolved more than you. You have no more reasons to hide behind your OMGUS.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

lol this game is going to be a clash of egos huh

I'm townreading Norway and I think osuka is townish. Still think Quick is prob town but he seems to have trouble getting his point across

VOTE: guiltylion

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Where's that early game energy Guilty?

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: lq
this is the most stunning display of self-contradiction and sheer lack of sense that i've seen in a long time

Pot/kettle

You want to PL me when we have a millar claim that you think is retarded. Yeah, you can take your read on me to the grave. There was nothing wrong with my push on you. What I said was actually true. Somehow you want to twist that into something it's not. Is there something wrong with me pressuring you for you wasting Town's time with all your incessant complaining?

Go ahead, give me a reason why you think I am Scum. I'll wait.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Well, does anyone have any strong feelings of mafia from any other players? I would be fine with lynching but it doesn't seem like anyone has any leads.

I am reading. I don't remember everything. I am suspicious of Osuka as well so I can help here.

VOTE: Osuka

What made you start suspecting osuka