Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 2.6

MariaR [3]:

skitter30 [3099], Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113]

lilith2013 [2]:

MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

Something_Smart [2]:

Firebringer [2424], Bingle [2740]

Firebringer [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3118]

Not Voting [3]:

Something_Smart, lilith2013, Menalque [3060]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

[skitter30]

didn't i have a scumread on ss before u?

it was just around the same time

[Firebringer]

no, i think i said ss was weird/scummy; u agreed with it. Said i was kind of townie for it. Now u think i am using u as an excuse to tunnel ss or something.

if anything i should be saying ur copying my reads skitter.

but i remember thinking back when u said "omg if ss flips town i think its fire" in the back of my mind i was thinking same thing about u and made my tr of u stronger.

[PenguinPower]

I’m proud of our mod.

[Firebringer]

did u appropriately sacrifice ur first born son to the mod for a bountiful vote counts, penguin?

[PenguinPower]

I...don’t think I would do that.

[PenguinPower]

It’s not a vote count that I particularly like.

[ofrhz]

I’m proud of our mod.

:dab:

[Firebringer]

It’s not a vote count that I particularly like.

I am disappointed in lack of gifs from u.

[PenguinPower]

That’s fair. In my defense I’ve been mostly iPad ridden and it’s harder to posts gifs from it.

[MariaR]

oh there's the wagon on me. Neat. Back to afk I go

[skitter30]

ok that is ... not particularly helpful

[Something_Smart]

yeah i am kind wondering if ur position on lilith is changing. or what u make of this whole lilith/u situation that is happening.

I mean, I think I've talked about it a fair amount? I had lilith as a mild townread before, she looked like she might have been whiteknighting me and then she acted real weird around the skitter vig claim and the townread evaporated, I think the gamestate right now is really hard to parse and makes it look like she might be town but I can see scum bussing her to screw with the gamestate so I don't really lean strongly either way.

I would like to see her interact now that the wagons have been defused, because I suspect that if she's town she was freezing up somewhat due to the pressure.

[MariaR]

When I see reasons for why I'm scum I'll responded to them.

[PenguinPower]

oh there's the wagon on me. Neat. Back to afk I go

Normally I’d make a quip about this, but you’re voting with me and you’re green so....I won’t.

[PenguinPower]

Why did you have Lilith as a town read, SS?

[Something_Smart]

Because she seemed a lot more aimless and all over the place and I didn't really feel her doing that in either of her scumgames that I've witnessed.

[skitter30]

but i remember thinking back when u said "omg if ss flips town i think its fire" in the back of my mind i was thinking same thing about u and made my tr of u stronger.

i'm confused how that made your townread of me stronger?

originally i thought you seeing the same things i did at roughly the same time was townie (i don't think you said them first, i'm p sure i did), but as i think about it and as my reads change i'm wondering if you're using me to push your agenda

[PenguinPower]

Huh. I don’t see aimless and all over the place.

[skitter30]

When I see reasons for why I'm scum I'll responded to them.

- your reads were utterly wrong yesterday.
- that all by itself is not a major issue, but you're not really using the flips/my claim to reasses the game state and figure out who you should be pushing
- you seem very complacent with the current gamestate

[skitter30]

ss does lilith like randomly lose interest in town games?

[MariaR]

- your reads were utterly wrong yesterday.
- that all by itself is not a major issue, but you're not really using the flips/my claim to reasses the game state and figure out who you should be pushing
- you seem very complacent with the current gamestate

First point isn't a reason to scumread someone
Second one is wrong. If I really didn't care or want to relook at the game I would be hard pushing Blake right now.
I'm using today to look at flips and see where I need to look at. So I'm taking a back seat. If you think that's scummy then oh well.

[Something_Smart]

I'm not going to apply experience from four years ago on that question, so the sample size is really too small. I think she's only been town once since returning (not counting a hydra game that I think she barely participated in), and she died N1.

[Something_Smart]

It certainly doesn't look random to me. Being wagoned can be a motivation killer for sure, as either alignment.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t think that’s a defense tbh. Everyone gets wagoned.