Micro 950: Lovers Mafia

Genghis Khan · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:34 pm

In post 7, HoldenGolden wrote:but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.

GREETINGS, DONKEY

Why would scum know the pairs on day 2?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:38 pm

In post 46, votato wrote:hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.

i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.

Scum knows a lot more than town knows right now, claiming lovers evens the field.

Right now both scum are manipulating their lover, best to know who they may be manipulating.

Source: Guy who's been scum in this setup twice.

Pre Edit: Good question Genghis since scum would only know the pairs on Day 2 if town/town lovers are lynched toDay.

beeboy · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:39 pm

Day 1, VC 1

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Bugspray (2) -

SleeperSoul, Tuxedo Mask

Sleepersoul (1) -

Doctor Drew

votato (1) -

HoldenGolden

HoldenGolden (1) -

Raya36

Not Voting (3)

- votato, bugspray, Genghis Khan

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-06-22 18:00:00)

HoldenGolden · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:42 pm

Yeah like even with my plan I'm advocating to just delay it prior to the day 1 lynch rather than skip over it entirely until day 2.

votato · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:43 pm

what exactly is the useful info that we want to have on day 1 that we get from a massclaim?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:44 pm

In post 50, Genghis Khan wrote:
In post 7, HoldenGolden wrote:but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.
GREETINGS, DONKEY

Why would scum know the pairs on day 2?

@Holden

HoldenGolden · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:46 pm

In post 7, HoldenGolden wrote:"The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." -Genghis Khan.

VOTE: Genghis Khan for being to god damn good at making love

I didnt say that. This was post seven?

HoldenGolden · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:46 pm

In post 46, votato wrote:hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark,
but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.

i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.

Yeah votato said it. Why did you change the person Gengish?

votato · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:47 pm

i think thats my post 46 that he quoted... hmmm

Doctor Drew · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:49 pm

Lol, I got duped........my apologies Holden, ok Votato....same question.

votato · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:59 pm

eh i thats only true if we mislynch today, which is SOP for day 1. but i guess in this case even the most incompetent town can hit scum by accident. which is good considering im a part of it.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:04 pm

In post 60, votato wrote:eh i thats only true if we mislynch today, which is SOP for day 1. but i guess in this case even the most incompetent town can hit scum by accident. which is good considering im a part of it.

Part of what? Incompetent town....or scum?

Tuxedo Mask · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:05 pm

With Votato, it's both.

votato · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:05 pm

well i do love to claim scum

SleeperSoul · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:09 pm

Actually, I'm not even sure if partial claiming day 1 is even all that bad. I wanna claim my lover soon if you can't convince me not to.

votato · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:16 pm

its not that bad. it just isnt that good. and i think the cons outweigh the pros. but i dont think its that big a deal?

SleeperSoul · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:24 pm

Yeah well since it's not that big of a deal, I'm just going to claim.
votato is my lover. Which is good because in bed I'm definitely a giver not a taker.

votato · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:25 pm

i like to do both

Doctor Drew · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:30 pm

Well there is great scum equity in a vote for Sleeper/votato.

SleeperSoul · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:32 pm

Well my only read so far is very slightly scummy on votato for not wanting to claim, so I'm not entirely opposed.

votato · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:32 pm

In post 68, Doctor Drew wrote:Well there is great scum equity in a vote for Sleeper/votato.

could you elaborate a little on why?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:33 pm

You both are scummy.

Seems clear.

SleeperSoul · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:34 pm

I can actually help town by getting myself lynched! Hahaha I like this setup!

votato · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:40 pm

In post 71, Doctor Drew wrote:You both are scummy.

Seems clear.

solid argument. care to elaborate?

Doctor Drew · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:45 pm

I don't negotiate with terrorists.