Micro 950: Lovers Mafia

[bugspray]

Drew x Khan scum

Can you explain why you think this?

my two strongest srs

[Raya36]

Well yes but why are they your strongest scumreads

[votato]

hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.

i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.

Am I missing something? How does scum know all the pairs D2 without us claiming?

Asking this again since I'm still confused

i dunno that i really have a better answer than the one i already gave... i take a lot of mental shortcuts and sometimes my brain skips steps and i wind up with whack-brained ideas.

[SleeperSoul]

hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.

i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.

Am I missing something? How does scum know all the pairs D2 without us claiming?

Asking this again since I'm still confused

Raya your concern seems very genuine and townie to me.

[SleeperSoul]

But I trust votato.

[Raya36]

hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.

i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.

Am I missing something? How does scum know all the pairs D2 without us claiming?

Asking this again since I'm still confused

i dunno that i really have a better answer than the one i already gave... i take a lot of mental shortcuts and sometimes my brain skips steps and i wind up with whack-brained ideas.

Alright. I guess it's not a scumslip because that's just not a fact??

[Raya36]

I'm honestly a little confused at how strong votato and sleeper are trusting each other. I'm a little worried that votato is manipulating sleeper. (I don't see sleeper being scum so if there is manipulation it's from votato.)

[SleeperSoul]

I'm honestly a little confused at how strong votato and sleeper are trusting each other. I'm a little worried that votato is manipulating sleeper. (I don't see sleeper being scum so if there is manipulation it's from votato.)

I really wish I could link you the exact post from the other game where I became confident in votato's read on me.

I do have a slight wariness towards votato because he initiated this plan that I don't fully understand..... but the trust I feel is strong. It just gets challenged every now and then by logic. I feel that khan and drew are mafia. Logic comes in and causes doubt every now and then but overall I trust the direction this game is going in.

[SleeperSoul]

An action comitted in anger is an action doomed to failure, people.

Anyway, I am heavily overgamed. Calling in Alexander the Great.

This post pretty much sealed the deal for me on votato being right.

[Raya36]

I'm honestly a little confused at how strong votato and sleeper are trusting each other. I'm a little worried that votato is manipulating sleeper. (I don't see sleeper being scum so if there is manipulation it's from votato.)

I really wish I could link you the exact post from the other game where I became confident in votato's read on me.

I do have a slight wariness towards votato because he initiated this plan that I don't fully understand..... but the trust I feel is strong. It just gets challenged every now and then by logic. I feel that khan and drew are mafia. Logic comes in and causes doubt every now and then but overall I trust the direction this game is going in.

I do understand that it's a meta read but meta is generally quite weak in my opinion. I like to use it to solidify my reads but never as the main basis of my read.

What is this plan you mention?

[Raya36]

An action comitted in anger is an action doomed to failure, people.

Anyway, I am heavily overgamed. Calling in Alexander the Great.

This post pretty much sealed the deal for me on votato being right.

I don't see that being particularly AI

[SleeperSoul]

What is this plan you mention?

Just the lynch on khan.

Unless he does have a mysterious plan that I'm not aware of.... I don't think so.


I do feel that townie concern from him when interacting in the PT.

[bugspray]

Well yes but why are they your strongest scumreads

i dont know why i have reads i just have them

[bugspray]

gengis seems to be avoiding solving the game and i just dont like dd tonallty

[SleeperSoul]

gengis seems to be avoiding solving the game and i just dont like dd tonallty

What is 'dd tonallty'?

[SleeperSoul]

gengis seems to be avoiding solving the game and i just dont like dd tonallty

What is 'dd tonallty'?

Oh nvm I see.... You don't like drew's tone. I agree.

[SleeperSoul]

After rereading the game last night, I didn't know WHAT I was thinking with this post:

Is Drew's agression AI? I'm kinda liking it.

rereading it, I didn't like his aggression at all.

But I guess that served to help scum slip up, so yay!

[SleeperSoul]

Before my catch up, I was playing this game while lacking sleep.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11914693

After sleeping, when catching up, I didn't reread the whole game, I just started catching up up from votato's post. So that's why I didn't mention drew.

Now that I reread everything without a lack of sleep, I see how scummy drew's aggression was.

[bugspray]

sleeper soul are you wearing flip flops

[Doctor Drew]

gengis seems to be avoiding solving the game and i just dont like dd tonallty

Genghis is also being replaced fyi.

[beeboy]

PookyTheMagicalBear replaces Genghis Khan effective immediately. Deadline is now unfrozen, will update it in the following vote count.

[bugspray]

gengis seems to be avoiding solving the game and i just dont like dd tonallty

Genghis is also being replaced fyi.

gengis's posting seemed to be avoiding solving the game and i still sr the slot for it
i didnt say "avoiding the game" how about you stop misrepping town arguments

VOTE: drdrew

[Doctor Drew]

'Seems to be' implies current events, hard to be actively solving the game when the player has left said game, right?

I will ask again, please someone sum up the case against Genghis ( and now Pooky).

[Doctor Drew]

Also, on the flip of this.

Let's play devil's advocate and say Pooky(Genghis) and I are scum buddies, why would I be obviously against his lynch? That would be a bonkers play, and borderline suicidal.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: why would I be so obviously