Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Firebringer]

vla for a few days, as i am sick :/

I will try to catch up soonish

feel better skitt

[Menalque]

that's currently my ego solve if Maria flips scum but if she doesn't let's just forget this post and let it be buried in my ISO

[Menalque]

i don't think it's 3/3

why?

[skitter30]

feels too ~neat~
everyone's reads look very similar to each other (even the people in group), which points to me that there's probably a scum in the townbloc

[Menalque]

I don't really see why scum chose to bus Lilith for ~*looking good*~ reasons on D2 when they could just... not do that? like the best case I can see is maaaaybe going for distancing and then getting stuck as the wagon grew but like... I pushed the wagon so I know it wasn't started from a scum-motivated perspective which makes that less likely imo. I don't think what you're saying is impossible, but I think it's more likely that (provided my TRs are broadly correct) scum decided to straddle across two wagons being pushed by town than just bus lilith for the hell of it

You're probably right. I tend to derive an undue amount of glee as scum from screwing with VCA and so it's definitely the type of thing I would do. I also tend to bus pretty hard when I feel like the partner is going to go down sooner or later, and I would expect there are a decent amount of people who have that similar philosophy, but you're probably right that it's less common than I'm making it out to be.

I mean I sometimes do, I sometimes don't but this isn't just pure VCA, it's also about how the game felt at that point. The consensus of lynching in (lilith, S_S) didn't feel challenged. Now one explanation for that was that you were both scum and therefore unable to effectively resist a scum lynch, but the alternative is that scum didn't really care either way but needed to appear somewhat invested in being around. Would scum crowd out a wagon to mess with VCA? Sure, maybe, but a lot wouldn't and my town reads independent of gamestate make me think that's not what happened.

[Menalque]

feels too ~neat~
everyone's reads look very similar to each other (even the people in group), which points to me that there's probably a scum in the townbloc

hmm, idk, I think the only person who could reasonably be that is A50 and you seem pretty confident on him so

[Menalque]

Firebringer I'mabout to go to bed but what do you make of the game?

[Something_Smart]

ss do u think it's more likely that lilith got bussed or that you're both tvt

I mean statistically town is more likely but I'm assuming you're asking if she's > rand scum or < rand scum. I guess probably < rand scum just because yeah Menalque's got a point that most scumteams probably wouldn't be hardbussing lilith for shits and giggles, and if she wasn't being hardbussed she could probably have pivoted onto me and I probably would have been lynched.

[skitter30]

idk isn't it weird that {me, you, blake, bingle} have fairly similar readslists?

[skitter30]

well more which gamestate seems more likely to you, but yeah that's basically what i was going for

[Menalque]

idk isn't it weird that {me, you, blake, bingle} have fairly similar readslists?

I... just proposed (Maria, Blake, bingle) as a solve? When I say townbloc I mean (you, me, datisi, A50, S_S)

[Firebringer]

@mena i need people to hard scumread/push me to get me back to being interested in the game.
i lack interest in maria push. She could be scum but i feel like this could easily be her town game.
I think my back and forth with lilith on day 1 was townie. She kind of annoyed me in a way town only do.
So i lack interest in most wagons today.

I could maybe do bingle but it would be lazy of me to do so cause I am like poe him to scum at this point and don't really get strong scum vibes from him. Just massive ehhhhhhhh.

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 2.9

MariaR [4]:

Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113], Menalque [3187], Bingle [3266]

-- [L-2]

lilith2013 [3]:

PenguinPower [2924], Blake Belladonna [3269], MariaR [3303]

Bingle [1]:

skitter30 [3209]

Something_Smart [1]:

Firebringer [2424]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Not Voting [1]:

Something_Smart

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 v/la until she feels better + regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays
PenguinPower v/la through Sunday
Firebringer v/la through Sunday
Datisi v/la through Sunday

[Menalque]

@mena i need people to hard scumread/push me to get me back to being interested in the game.
i lack interest in maria push. She could be scum but i feel like this could easily be her town game.
I think my back and forth with lilith on day 1 was townie. She kind of annoyed me in a way town only do.
So i lack interest in most wagons today.

I could maybe do bingle but it would be lazy of me to do so cause I am like poe him to scum at this point and don't really get strong scum vibes from him. Just massive ehhhhhhhh.

if u like I can try to push you as scum tomorrow if Maria flips scum? although in that case I actually think I want someone else more, so how about I push you tomorrow if Maria flips town and I push someone else if she's scum? and if she's scum you can just sheep me on the other person I want instead

[skitter30]

idk isn't it weird that {me, you, blake, bingle} have fairly similar readslists?

I... just proposed (Maria, Blake, bingle) as a solve? When I say townbloc I mean (you, me, datisi, A50, S_S)

i'm not sure what you're trying to say here
fire is also a poe scumread btw

[skitter30]

vla for a few days, as i am sick :/

I will try to catch up soonish

@ofrhz

[ofrhz]

vla for a few days, as i am sick :/

I will try to catch up soonish

@ofrhz

Got it, feel better soon!

[Menalque]

feels too ~neat~
everyone's reads look very similar to each other (even the people in group), which points to me that there's probably a scum in the townbloc

idk isn't it weird that {me, you, blake, bingle} have fairly similar readslists?

idk isn't it weird that {me, you, blake, bingle} have fairly similar readslists?

I... just proposed (Maria, Blake, bingle) as a solve? When I say townbloc I mean (you, me, datisi, A50, S_S)

i'm not sure what you're trying to say here
fire is also a poe scumread btw

you said you thought there was a scum in the townbloc

I asked who it would be

you said it was weird that (you, me, Blake, bingle) all have similar reads

I pointed out that when I say townbloc I'm not including (Blake, bingle) and thought that was clear from including them in a solve with Maria right before this?

[Firebringer]

if u like I can try to push you as scum tomorrow if Maria flips scum?

sure. pls push me if she flips town too. I need a fire under my butt.

[Firebringer]

i need some people to hard scumread me.

everyone putting me in a poe just makes me think i am getting lynched later and I can't figure out who scumreads me legitimately and who doesn't. Makes it harder to figure out the scum pushers cause like everyone is doing it.

[Menalque]

if u like I can try to push you as scum tomorrow if Maria flips scum?

sure. pls push me if she flips town too. I need a fire under my butt.

I feel like u didn't read the rest of the post because I said actually if she flips scum I'll push someone else but if she flips town I'll probably push you. so really you should be saying "pls push me if she flips scum too"

[Firebringer]

if u like I can try to push you as scum tomorrow if Maria flips scum?

sure. pls push me if she flips town too. I need a fire under my butt.

I feel like u didn't read the rest of the post because I said actually if she flips scum I'll push someone else but if she flips town I'll probably push you. so really you should be saying "pls push me if she flips scum too"

u caught me not reading

[skitter30]

I pointed out that when I say townbloc I'm not including (Blake, bingle) and thought that was clear from including them in a solve with Maria right before this?

oh sorry those thoughts were not necessarily connected

basically, i think the gamestate is weird if {townreads - i.e. you and me} and {scumreads - i.e. bingle and blake} have similar readslists
i don't know what exactly it implies (probably that there's scum in the townbloc) but i'm making note of it because something isn't right here

[Menalque]

if u like I can try to push you as scum tomorrow if Maria flips scum?

sure. pls push me if she flips town too. I need a fire under my butt.

I feel like u didn't read the rest of the post because I said actually if she flips scum I'll push someone else but if she flips town I'll probably push you. so really you should be saying "pls push me if she flips scum too"

u caught me not reading

looks like ur scum then Firebringer! only scum wouldn't read my posts

[Firebringer]

looks like ur scum then Firebringer! only scum wouldn't read my posts

ONLY SCUM DEAL IN ABSOLUTES.

MR SCUM MENALQUE