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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:19 am

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There is a great number of guides on the mafia scum wiki that goes into mafia theory.

Theres also a really helpful guide for town play offsite that I can link if need be. Different system of play there, but I found it to he a good guide.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 799, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 798, HoldenGolden wrote:The best person to convince you of something is yourself after all

good advice. I just need to trust myself more.
no, you should always listen to me. i always know best.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 800, HoldenGolden wrote: Theres also a really helpful guide for town play offsite that I can link if need be. Different system of play there, but I found it to he a good guide.
Please do, thank you!


Also, I guess if any one particular page of the wiki jumps out at you as something I should read, I wouldn't mind a link to that. That goes to anyone.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 801, votato wrote:
In post 799, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 798, HoldenGolden wrote:The best person to convince you of something is yourself after all

good advice. I just need to trust myself more.
no, you should always listen to me. i always know best.

Okay well I queued up for the coalition game, so get ready for another sheepfest everybody!
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:23 am

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https://tl.net/forum/mafia/301748-a-gen ... e-to-mafia

I found it after fangirling about the good old days of broodwar after playing with AGAR. Pretty sure they play plurality lynch mechanics, but the play covers both dominate lynch styles.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:26 am

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tyvm
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:36 am

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See, God was telling me how to win the game.... I should have made the "final sacrifice". :mrgreen:
In post 382, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 378, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:sleeper i'm afraid your buddy votato is probly scum since he won't lynch his scumbuddy drew with us

so tommorrow gonna have to ask you to make the
ultimate sacrifice
for us ok?
I'm actually tearing up because I watched

https://youtu.be/bvouc8Qs_MI?t=62

earlier
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:39 am

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So fuck any logic, that's how I get confused. lol
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:17 am

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Honestly you just never committed to a single game plan. That was honestly your biggest problem as you wobbled back and forth between your own points and sheeping votato.

Though I think at large, a good factor of why town lost is summed up best by the guide I posted.
Being an obvious innocent is worth a lot more than being an active but confused poster. Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos. You don’t have to be a super-active poster to prove your innocence or be useful to the town.

You do not need to be useful in an active and eye-popping way. Perhaps due to historical inactivity, players seem to have an unnatural urge to post everything that comes to mind in an attempt to avoid inactivity and keep the ball rolling. However, there are worse things than inactivity, and a game can hardly be called active if it is only the same 8 people repeating themselves in the thread. Your primary goal should be post quality rather than quantity. The game thread is not twitter. You don’t have to reply to every post or question you see with “@PlayerName”.

You should not post without a plan or agenda. The more obvious your agenda is, the easier it is for people to see your innocence. Make sure there is a purpose to every post. You should never post reflexively or impulsively. The content of your posts should flow together naturally while indicating “I am helping the town”.
This games Chaos was mostly town driven save for votato confusing the thread with drew. Outside of playing tuxedo, I didnt really contributed to the fire. If every townie had a clear game plan and only posted what was needed instead of "I'm number 1 poster kekeke" perhaps someone would of saw how full of horseshit votato scumdrew read was.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:19 am

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(Not to say I'm any better as town as I do shitpost, but still having an agenda you are pushing is good town play)
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:23 am

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I wish bugspray was more active.

And no, I'm not gonna fuck logic.

I just need to balance it in a consistent way with my intuition.

This is good advice, thanks holdem.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:27 am

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the simplest solution for this game in the endgame we are in which is T-S T-S T-T, is that there needs to be 4 town votes to lynch a scum if the scum do not bus.

When the game is being rushed like that endgame was - it's usually scum driving the quicklynch for the fast win.

The only possible way for the town to win with 4 votes on a scum given 0 busing is if the scum gets voted by his own teammate - if the 4 townies vote together - the votes have to come from 3 separate teams.

If the 4 votes are coming from 2 teams - short of there being bussing you have to be mislynching, so when both of your teams are pushing to vote me that should ring some alarm bells. If I'm scum the only way you get me lynched without bussing is if my partner votes me and he wasn't even here for this game mostly.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 810, SleeperSoul wrote:I wish bugspray was more active.

And no, I'm not gonna fuck logic.

I just need to balance it in a consistent way with my intuition.

This is good advice, thanks holdem.
Of course. And that's a good takeaway

And some townies just dont bleed town. That's normal. Bugs actually was town from meta reasons, though nobody knew their meta. It is what it is. In normal games, PRs and lynches can clear slots like that.

Pedit: the real solution is to avoid mislynching in the first lynch.

Drew was correct when he said whoever gets the first lynch heavily sets the tone for the rest of the game. As such, day one doesn't need to be rushed the most.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:32 am

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it's a game where you only need to get 2 lynches right to win, obviously the team that scores the first point is at a big advantage.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:33 am

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@pooky That version of the post would have been way more convincing. Still don't know if I would have bought it, though.


Also, I should have known votato was scum when he wasn't on board with my plan of making the days longer 'just for fun and banter'.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:38 am

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i do love fun and banter haha
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 814, SleeperSoul wrote:@pooky That version of the post would have been way more convincing. Still don't know if I would have bought it, though.


Also, I should have known votato was scum when he wasn't on board with my plan of making the days longer 'just for fun and banter'.
yea we almost had him

I knew you was a real G when you committed to the ultimate sacrifice :D
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 816, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 814, SleeperSoul wrote:@pooky That version of the post would have been way more convincing. Still don't know if I would have bought it, though.


Also, I should have known votato was scum when he wasn't on board with my plan of making the days longer 'just for fun and banter'.
yea we almost had him

I knew you was a real G when you committed to the ultimate sacrifice :D

That's great! So there is a purpose to impulsively posting irrational things sometimes. (not NEVER)
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:44 am

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Or trusting coincidences/intuition.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:47 am

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wait how many pairs are even left?
MY PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM


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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:48 am

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that game's over dude
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:48 am

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I would say its more of a reaction test that got a positive.

Intuition/coincidences can be trusted, but they got to be weighed in respect to what's going on. Theres been time I have gut reads or intuition someone is scum with nothing really supporting it (cough cough Tuxedo in brass).
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:48 am

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Lol bugs
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:49 am

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i want some of the drugs bugs is on lolol
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:50 am

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can we lynch bugspray yet?
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