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[votato]

Ok I'm caught up. It seems like a lot of people scum read bm but not that many people are actually voting there. VOTE: bm. Can we get this wagon rolling?

[Green Crayons]

There is a metric ton of associative theory going on without a flip.

[Green Crayons]

^^^ I don't think that's AI, but I do think it can lead town down wrong paths.

[votato]

There is a metric ton of associative theory going on without a flip.

this exactly.


so i think at this point the case on me has three prongs:

1) my RVS vote saying "i know HK is an assassin." This has already been cleared up - HK 50 is an assassin droid. thats the character. from the video game. it pretends to be a protocol or mining droid. you're being silly
2) associations with BM (and to some extent HK and clidd?) this is bad, dont do associations pre-flip. youre being even more silly. also how in the world does my consistent scumread of BM read as a distancing ploy rather than a push?
3) disappearing from the thread. yeah its a bad look, but as soon as i got prodded i came back to the game. and not just to prodge, but to engage. sorry. you're being silly for assuming that its AI instead of waiting to see what happens though.

[Not_Mafia]

Ok I'm caught up. It seems like a lot of people scum read bm but not that many people are actually voting there. VOTE: bm. Can we get this wagon rolling?

This is a bad vote

[farside22]

If anyone can link the post link to the main BM case that would be swell because I'm sure as hell too lazy to dig for it.

I can be convinced of scum BM despite disagreeing with the votato pairing. I want Dunnstral though preferably because it gives more information. Just off the top of my head:

If scum:

-Depending on the formation of the BM wagon, this could point to town BM if it was heavily pushed for without much countermeasure (aka mafia allowed it to happen).

-Stunguns stance on Dunnstral throughout day 1
-Farside, GC, and bob are pretty surely town

-votato is town due to the opening post by Dunnstral

-malakitten is prob town too although I need to revisit that.

If town:

-Farside/bob scum equity goes up (this is my bargaining chip. You want to see my little secret? Gotta keep my robot ass alive and flip Dunnstral).

-im wrong about stungun most likely and they are town

-BM/Clidd equity for scum goes up.

-Im sure there are points that help sort conscience, malakitten, and GC.

I confess it doesnt help solve the militank nor Germy germ, but I also confess I stop paying attention to such weaklings

There has been less resistance to a Dunnstral wagon than a BM wagon, which still has never reached a majority this day phase, unlike Dunn which has been the primary majority.

Obviously, since the majority has been 4 votes lately, scum isn't really helping us too much with these votes, or I'm sure we would be closer to a lynch.

What on earth makes Votato town based on a post by Dunnstral? What kind of crazy logic? He should be town based off his own posts from your angle, but not someone else's. That is really weird.

Look, you're also willing to flip on my townreads provided that Dunn flips town. I do not like that, as I am townreading both Bob and farside. I see you and think you are lining up lynches here, since you think they are both town currently.

You want an extra day with BM/Clidd & Votato, don't you?

Just my gut read right now.

@Farside

: I have to say no to moving to Dunnstral, unless he's a majority and we are threatened with a no lynch situation or Dunnstral.

I hope you will do the same thing provided it's Clidd or no lynch, because a lynch obviously favors us more than a no lynch.

I'd flip to vote if needed. Don't like the follow votes going on. I see a lot of information without flips going on and it just leads to a bad place.

clidd has requested an additional day to be added onto the clock. The new end of day is in (expired on 2020-06-24 07:23:04).

Is it not scummy to add an extra day to the clock only to use more than double that amount of time up without even saying so much as a word like "I am having trouble catching up" or something? I can understand busyness, but at the same time it only takes about 15-30 seconds to come in and say something like that, and it also helps us.

Do you think for a second that might be scum that has no defense for what I called them out about on Friday?

Votato has also not answered. It has been >36 hours since I asked those questions, and HK only responded after I asked him a second time. Do you think there is a reason these players are dodging those questions?

Please don't make a molehill into a mountain. Chill and let the player catch up. People get busy and frankly I find your attitude a bit rude in this department.

There is a metric ton of associative theory going on without a flip.

I agree.......why are you voting for BM/Clidd and who are your other scum reads?

[votato]

honestly im a bit suspicious of stun for how hard he's spamming the thread pushing inactives, but i think he just got caught up in the excitement of seeing several events happening and unconsciously tying them together. i think it would be a terrible play for the scumteam to ask for more time and then all go afk at the same time.

[Not_Mafia]

honestly im a bit suspicious of stun for how hard he's spamming the thread pushing inactives, but i think he just got caught up in the excitement of seeing several events happening and unconsciously tying them together. i think it would be a terrible play for the scumteam to ask for more time and then all go afk at the same time.

This is a really bad post

[votato]

honestly im a bit suspicious of stun for how hard he's spamming the thread pushing inactives, but i think he just got caught up in the excitement of seeing several events happening and unconsciously tying them together. i think it would be a terrible play for the scumteam to ask for more time and then all go afk at the same time.

This is a really bad post

this is a really bad post

[Green Crayons]

I agree.......why are you voting for BM/Clidd and who are your other scum reads?

Phone posting so, long and short of BM/Clidd is that BM’s wonky posts that NM called out, his suuuuuper delayed reason for justifying his AI meta read on votato, and his defense of his actions generally (trying to make me, his most articulate vote pusher, out to be scum; and also his inconsistent defenses making it look like he’s trying to find any excuse that appeals to the reader)

I’m still happy with a Dunn lynch tbh. At this point his super early hypocrisy isn’t a deal sealer in term is alignment. But his absolute refusal to engage on this point is troubling. I’ve somewhat thought maybe he’s a PR that’s trying to lay low but at this point when he’s a primary wagon his refusal to speak seems more like scum trying to just get by from not making a stir.

[Green Crayons]

Bc I’ve been drinking and now my neighbors who I was porch chilling with have left, let’s run down the player list.


votato - I’m thinking town but siiigh
bob3141 - leaning town now tbh
DoctorPepper - null bit was thinking town at some point
Not_Mafia- town Honestly not sure how folks can’t see between the lines with his posting.
geraintm - pretty sure town
Ghost Ganster stungun0404 - town Like, annoyingly super town and I say annoyingly because he can get a thought in his head and it might be wrong by gd he runs it down.
Green Crayons - town
farside22 - honestly thinking scum. Sorry <3
HK 50 - town, even tho I don’t k ow where he’s coming from with his fixation on stun
Battle Mage clidd - scum
Malakittens - null. Like if you put a gun to my head I’d slot her town but damn she’s been pretty absent in a way I cannot read
notscience - town. Not even a Q.
Dunnstral - scum

[Green Crayons]

Lol lots of town reads. I’m *not* playing to stun’s expectations. Maybe he shouldn’t try to compare my meta to a whatever-page replacement to an early D1.

[Green Crayons]

And whoever did another meta of me (farside?) I haven’t been scum in over 5 years.


And it’s fucking d e l i c i o u s

[Green Crayons]

It seems like a lot of people scum read bm but not that many people are actually voting there.

If this is true I think the people who aren’t walking their talk are super suspicious regardless of BM’s flip.

Name names.

[votato]

It seems like a lot of people scum read bm but not that many people are actually voting there.

If this is true I think the people who aren’t walking their talk are super suspicious regardless of BM’s flip.

Name names.

oh i forgot that clidd subbed for BM, thought they were two separate people. to be clear my above vote was VOTE: clidd

i guess people are voting for BM, but now id have to go reread a bunch to see if anyone is actually not voting clidd

[votato]

oh and that makes it L-1

[votato]

Bc I’ve been drinking and now my neighbors who I was porch chilling with have left, let’s run down the player list.


votato - I’m thinking town but siiigh
bob3141 - leaning town now tbh
DoctorPepper - null bit was thinking town at some point
Not_Mafia- town Honestly not sure how folks can’t see between the lines with his posting.
geraintm - pretty sure town
Ghost Ganster stungun0404 - town Like, annoyingly super town and I say annoyingly because he can get a thought in his head and it might be wrong by gd he runs it down.
Green Crayons - town
farside22 - honestly thinking scum. Sorry <3
HK 50 - town, even tho I don’t k ow where he’s coming from with his fixation on stun
Battle Mage clidd - scum
Malakittens - null. Like if you put a gun to my head I’d slot her town but damn she’s been pretty absent in a way I cannot read
notscience - town. Not even a Q.
Dunnstral - scum

this read list won me over on GC.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Incansecant Screaming

Vote Count 1.12

clidd (6):

Not_Mafia, Green Crayons, stungun0404, Malakittens, bob3141, votato

Dunnstral (4):

DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, notscience

Green Crayons (1):

clidd

notscience (1):

geraintm

Not_Mafia (1):

Dunnstral

Not voting (0):

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Mod Notes:

Please do not vote players who have replaced out.

Majority is 7 players.

Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-24 07:23:04).

clidd has been prodded, and has (expired on 2020-06-22 05:06:16) to respond before I find a replacement.

geraintm has been prodded, and has (expired on 2020-06-22 19:49:43) to respond before I find a replacement.

Doctor Pepper is V/LA for (expired on 2020-06-22 06:06:00).
stungun0404 is V/LA until Monday.[/area]

[Dunnstral]

It is becoming hard to imagine that farside is acting in good faith

[notscience]

mod can we get deadline frozen while we wait for replacements please

[notscience]

sup fuckers im back ONCE A MO FUCKIN GAIN

Mala WYA lets sort this shit out

[notscience]

What is farside not acting in good faith on

[farside22]

It is becoming hard to imagine that farside is acting in good faith

Its hard to believe anything you say.

What is farside not acting in good faith on

Hes just scum acting.

[Jake The Wolfie]

mod can we get deadline frozen while we wait for replacements please

We currently need 0 replacements.

[notscience]

I thought that was saying we needed replacements im dumb apologies.

Farside I am asking the questions here tia sarcastic jabs about shit reads on the commenter is my thing