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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 148, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:um me getting mislynched that game had literally nothing to do with bugspray, he literally wasn't even playing that game lolol

I mean, I would have been more on board with the final sacrifice if I had any read on bugspray. Don't want to make a similar mistake this game.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:51 am

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bugspray was pretty easy to read as town

he literally wasn't even there lol
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:54 am

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In post 149, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 146, SleeperSoul wrote:I mean, we town read eachother while 'fighting' last game.... So him not wanting to do it this game came off as AI. you think it's NAI?
For it to be a true fight, there must be consequences - life and death -lynch or let live. Without the danger there can be no information gained.
Well, this makes sense. I'd vote you now to stir up shit but I'm legit 50/50 on you right now. Maybe 51% town.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:57 am

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In post 152, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 149, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 146, SleeperSoul wrote:I mean, we town read eachother while 'fighting' last game.... So him not wanting to do it this game came off as AI. you think it's NAI?
For it to be a true fight, there must be consequences - life and death -lynch or let live. Without the danger there can be no information gained.
Well, this makes sense. I'd vote you now to stir up shit but I'm legit 50/50 on you right now. Maybe 51% town.
what changed?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:57 am

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In post 151, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bugspray was pretty easy to read as town

he literally wasn't even there lol
i mean thats pretty good cover to hide behind as scum too though.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:58 am

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fortunately, in this game we can simply exclude bugspray from the coalition.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 151, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bugspray was pretty easy to read as town

he literally wasn't even there lol
I don't know how you read bugspray.
Maybe the chess moves were townie? hehe
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:01 am

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In post 156, SleeperSoul wrote:I don't know how you read bugspray.
Maybe the chess moves were townie? hehe

This is the only thing he said to me in our PT:

"i still sr your slot so i dont have a real reason to engage with u"


If he's scum he's trying to manipulate me and snow me, he was a 0-effort townie instead.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 152, SleeperSoul wrote:Well, this makes sense. I'd vote you now to stir up shit but I'm legit 50/50 on you right now. Maybe 51% town.
you know the default probability is like 77.7% right?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:03 am

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In post 154, votato wrote:i mean thats pretty good cover to hide behind as scum too though.
usually in lover games the scum are busy putting their tentacles all into their lovers heads and getting them to lynch town
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 153, votato wrote:
In post 152, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 149, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 146, SleeperSoul wrote:I mean, we town read eachother while 'fighting' last game.... So him not wanting to do it this game came off as AI. you think it's NAI?
For it to be a true fight, there must be consequences - life and death -lynch or let live. Without the danger there can be no information gained.
Well, this makes sense. I'd vote you now to stir up shit but I'm legit 50/50 on you right now. Maybe 51% town.
what changed?

pedit that makes sense pooky

I considered the possibility that him not wanting to fight was NAI.... He seems to be mimicking his town play from the lovers game. Everything so far cancels out to 51% town.

next pedit: ah yeah.... actually if I count myself as town then everyone else has exactly 75% chance of being town. I calculated this yesterday. still...
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 157, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 156, SleeperSoul wrote:I don't know how you read bugspray.
Maybe the chess moves were townie? hehe

This is the only thing he said to me in our PT:

"i still sr your slot so i dont have a real reason to engage with u"


If he's scum he's trying to manipulate me and snow me, he was a 0-effort townie instead.
this makes sense
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:06 am

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I wasn't thinking about mathematical probabilities when I said pooky is 51% town.... That's just a descriptor of my slight town lean on him.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:21 am

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In post 160, SleeperSoul wrote:actually if I count myself as town then everyone else has exactly 75% chance of being town. I calculated this yesterday.
Also, according to my calculations, there are 28 possible scum pairs in this game if I count myself as town.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:22 am

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I didn't do any calculations for me as scum.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:23 am

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sleeper, if you were scum who would your buddy be?
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:27 am

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In post 165, votato wrote:sleeper, if you were scum who would your buddy be?
I have no idea, probably the person who's talked the least. bugspray?

I said that without even thinking about it. I have never had any plans on how to play scum, I'm terrible at it. Or I have been in the past at least.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:33 am

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My 'plan' as scum is to just 'be quiet'.... It has never worked. :lol:
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:35 am

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yea you'd be pretty terrible as scum ngl
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 168, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea you'd be pretty terrible as scum ngl
PREACH! :mrgreen:
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 57, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 55, Deimos27 wrote:DC, how about you play the game like normal.
And you actually case your solve.
And people sheep you only if they agree with you?
I prefer option a) I solve the game and everyone sheeps me and then I get lynched upon BoP if I’m wrong
In post 58, DonCorleone wrote:Whats the matter Deimos, worried?
Worried about trusting the game to one player who I know nothing of? Yes, naturally.
I don't have such blind faith in you, nor lack of self-esteem for myself, that I would readily agree your strategy is higher EV than a cooperative, interactive one, where I still get to rely on my own judgment.
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In post 87, votato wrote:we arent gonna discuss day 2 because
it could help scum
to discuss it now.
If this is actually true, town points for votato
... what?
In post 94, votato wrote:
In post 92, Tuxedo Mask wrote:HEAL: Deimos

HEAL: Alduskkel

HEAL: Clover

HEAL: Sleeper

HEAL: Tux
thats an interesting list. to me none of those people are obvtown. maybe deimos? but no its too early to say for deimos. actually, deimos is leaning the other way at this early stage.
Pretty significant progression to go from Deimos is maybe obvtown to Deimos is leaning "the other way" (I assume that means scum). Walk me through your thought process there?
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In post 103, votato wrote:
In post 100, Clover Ebi wrote:
In post 87, votato wrote:we arent gonna discuss day 2 because it could help scum to discuss it now.
How so?
explaining that would help scum. you trying to bait me into explaining it makes me think you're scum.[/quo*te]
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...Huh? I am just-huh?! You think talking about day 2 helps scum and because I asked for more detail why I'm scummy for it... am I getting that all right?
Yes, that's exactly right, and his argument was pretty straightforward so I dislike this seeming indignation.
In post 163, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 160, SleeperSoul wrote:actually if I count myself as town then everyone else has exactly 75% chance of being town. I calculated this yesterday.
Also, according to my calculations, there are 28 possible scum pairs in this game if I count myself as town.
And what value does this latter calculation provide you? What is the value of outing it?
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:40 am

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HEAL: Pooky
HEAL: votato
HURT: Sleeper
HURT: Clover
Here's where I'm at.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:41 am

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sleeper has to be town

if he was scum he would've told us all about it by now
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:43 am

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This some kind of metaread? I get gutpings from like every one of his posts.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:44 am

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I'll add a tentative HEAL: DC because I don't really expect scum to suggest and defend a strategy that puts them in a 6v1 mountainous.
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