Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

[Green Crayons]

Battle Mage is today's lynch btw everyone

Battle Mage is definitely scum

Well I might be today's lynch, but I'm not scum dude! You selling anything else?

This post seems kinda too jokey to be scum. But I feel like the rest of the posting has been kind of incoherent.

But there's something I quite like about this post not being super defensive

FWIW I think BM's post goes beyond "not being super defensive" into "manufacturing trying to look super cool about the suspicion" territory

[Green Crayons]

Spoiler: ns vote on votato

As a new day broke out, Jake was found dead... asleep. Despite the wailing of the town to do his job, he stayed still all the same. Micc, the secretary, didn't do Jake's job for him, but instead woke him up.

Vote Count 1.6

Dunnstral (4):

DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, Green Crayons

HK 50 (2):

votato, bob3141

votato (2):

Malakittens, stungun0404

notscience (1):

geraintm

Malakittens (1):

Dunnstral

Battle Mage (1):

Not_Mafia

Green Crayons (1):

Battle Mage

Not voting (1):

notscience

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Mod Notes:

Majority is 7 players.

Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-22 07:23:04).[/area]

DP it doesnt look good for you 3/4 of us are already town you best town it up soon before the probabilities getcha

VOTE: Votato

Looks like an all green wagon there lets get this sucker moving

Mala
Bob
Robot
Farside
Stun

GC?

BM
DP
NM
Dunn

gera

votato

292 is a bad vote

Yeah, idg why ns voted votato. What does the all green bw even mean when there was only 2 votes?

ns, you ever explain/justify this?

[Green Crayons]

So my top 2 scum reads are Dunn/NS. Still debating on who the 3rds scum is but those 2 are my strongest ones.

Did you ever explain your ns read? Do you still read ns as scum?

[Green Crayons]

Yeah, idg why ns voted votato. What does the all green bw even mean when there was only 2 votes?

ns, you ever explain/justify this?

Oh, okay so you did:

Games over

I spent two game days

Basically a goddamn month

Watching votato lurk to a scum win

My votes not lazy.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmeh

not a great reason but also not scum indicative imo

[farside22]

Spoiler:

farside, could you elaborate on your scumreads?

Dunn scum read you can find: here Thanks in part to GC for finding the massive discrepancy.
And if you are unclear why this scummy. Mala was calling you and hk scum together as well. Dunn basically agreed with those scum reads then switched to mala is scummy for saying the exact same fucking thing.

As for NS well I don't like his vote on you. He ignored the Dunn wagon and his reads here really have no explanation.
Like BM for example was pretty much not saying much, Gera hasn't offered much but he went with voting for you over others.
Why the criticism for DP?
I get the impression the list is a reason for him not to vote for Dunn.

I have a few null reads: BM, geraintm and mala.

I'm equating your play to large normal and NM I have a gut ping he is town (now he has tricked me in the past so I'm not married to my gut) but I get where he is going with BM.

I feel like my read on NS should change......I know that sounds odd, but i just finished a game where a player says all the things that sound right but still that weird ringing sound is in the back of your head saying. NO DON'T BUY IT!!
I wish mala said something more. I feel like when I read her post it's all surface level posting that offers nothing new to the conversation.

It's possible I guess, but votato or Battle Mage is today's lynch

what exactly is the case against me? i realize that my vote was a bit lazy/sheepy but i did say that i found GC suspicious before stun's case. so either i expected a good case and decided to bus before i even knew why i was bussing, or stun read my mind and said exactly what i was thinking. i guess ill leave it to you to decide which is more likely

Fos votato

Bad unicorn, bad. I'm not sure what your trying to do with your interaction with GC. Half I was like is he really trying to get GC to scum read him or is he goading GC for a reason. The other half is like, wow that guy.
Just going to say one last time. I hate your play style.
*take fos back*
*glares at votato*

post 518 this is making no sense to me. BM is usually more logical then this unless he is on tilt, no reason for tilt at this point.

Sigh now GC, he is on tilt. I need something strong to drink to read through his post. I can tell at this point it is going toward rage/none sense mode.
hmmm note to self check GC meta. I don't like GC's rant over BM's requested replacement. It's a bit over the top.

@Mala: Who are you currently scum reading?

Mage/votato/Dunn

Vote Dunn with me!

I find it weird that geraintm and dunn are suddenly coming out of the woodwork sticking up for BM, and dunn has already stuck up against geraintm being lynched, and geraintm weakly against dunn? Anyone else find this strange?

Meh. I have seen scum stick up for town and buddy those that are on players scum list. I find that NAI typically for that reason.


I stopped on page 25, I have to run out shortly. I hope to have a finally thought or at least scum list when I'm done. I had a weird thought that hit me while I was reading things and I want to reread a few things over to see if I'm going crazy.

I don’t really get the farside scumread either because I’ve been agreeing with every one of her posts

But no seriously I think her mala read makes decent sense especially given the info available thus far

Pedit-

Eh. Seemed over the top to me, but as I said I’m still getting reacquainted and it’s why I’m not pushing it besides my first comment and your questions.

I’m alive

Mala who’s scum

That second questions open to DP and farside too before I effort and read those wall posts from bob and bot

I’m giving mala space bc I’m nice and also a wee bit drunk

There’s more than one way to skin a huma- a ca- an animal

Miltabk I don’t remember you being this cryptic

Farside I’m honestly not engaged we went to hang with my work friends in the city and have been drinking since 2p and I haven’t sufficiently efforts but I wanna feel Involved

Hi friend I will vote when I am sober enough to Lynch some ecumfucks bc idk if you’ve tried but it’s hard to figure out ulterior motives while drunk but I’m good for it I promise or farside mala and dp will Lynch tf out of me

That's cool. Man the guide lines and the social standards are going to be a pain in the ass for a few months. I haven't even been called to come back to work and my place has been open a month now. They had some people come back so far, but not all.

When you go back be very careful with the table cleaning water the CDC recommends weve lost multiple uniforms so far to it! Otherwise its not really too difficult you just have to keep the tables separate and the whole mask thing.

Yeah, I'm glad there are a few people here I've played with so my day1ness wont be too much of a problem

???

[Declaration:]

Townlean on the sentinent green crayons.

Why?

Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

2nded

Bob reads well so far. It's still early but nothing jumps out as bad. I think HK is just proding people. I find one question a bit non-sense so far but to each there own.

Is it bad I see their back and forth as tvt

I have more town pings than scum pings. {HK, bob}

Maybe you are town

I'll catch up later, but for now:

VOTE: HK 50 - biggest wagon and he appears to have a horrible post restriction and needs to be put out of his misery.

[Definition:]

Efficiency: the ratio of the useful work performed by a machine or in a process to the total energy expended or heat taken in.

Known antonyms: Master Battle Mage

I have no read off this but I feel like yall need to read it again because its hilarious

VOTE: Battle Mage

Not a bad vote. Someone's living up to their name.

Itd be a lot nicer if hed give reasons for his votes

bob's posts look like scum trying to effort. (shrug)

I can kinda see it but I think it just sounded town?

[Rebuttal:]

Space to do what exactly? You asked a similar question to Masters Doctorpepper and Farside right afterwards which indicated to my sensors it was directed towards townish people in your perspective. Or is this wrong?

[Accusation:]

During the Farside vs Malakitten interaction, you simultaneously supported farside read while also pleading the case that somebody not knowing the reference is NAI. I would have no issue with this had you committed to something like: "Master Farside push was good for the info at the time, but ultimately I find the points raised to be NAI".

In short, I see you as someone who is fencesitting. Your actions seemed planned to respond to whatever the threads focus was at the time. When master Malakitten was being pushed, you voiced suspicion in post 70 and 74 fueling it. When the pressure waned and was redirected to Dunnstral/farside, you casually begin to treat master malakitten as town tonally.

Just circling back in case you missed my reply- its the people im used to. I agreed with her comment but not that it made her scum- my scumread was from malas reaction to the push, which iirc someone said is prob just town frustration at being pushed over stupid shit which made a lot of stuff. I get it seems fencesitty but until Ive got scum in my sights i sit back and chitchat with my usual suspects to help me get my footing

OK, I'm halfway through the pages. Making progress!

Would like to know how many scum are typically in a 13 player game though? 2? 3? Or 4? I am guessing 3, but not sure.

I am assuming 3

Id just like everyone to note this was a 7 min reply which means hes actively reading the thread just doing nothing

VOTE: Geraintm

Absolutely nothing in their ISO thus far points to scumhunting, and I do not like that. Especially paired together with their commitment to stalling that they admitted to in 108 by saying "you all do you, i'm going to wait until things become more clear."

That does not settle right with me at all.

goodvotes

this dude is town

I have nothing at the moment. day 1 people talk but it doesn't mean anything. votes are the important thing and there just haven't been many so far. I'm very much the type of person who looks at people's voting patterns and trying to either spot inconsistencies or really, really bad logic used to justify them

when I say you all do you, it is just me saying I don't have the mental capacity to argue over perceived slights, misunderstandings or whatever

@mala- is this true or false

VOTE: Vot.

Mala, hold on. This slot is quite empty. Hasn't posted since day 1 irl. Why the vote here?

nah its prob a good vote

Votato is typically posting more by this point in the game. So i don't mind the vote from mala.

You're town too??? wow.

DP it doesnt look good for you 3/4 of us are already town you best town it up soon before the probabilities getcha

VOTE: Votato

Looks like an all green wagon there lets get this sucker moving

Mala
Bob
Robot
Farside
Stun

GC?

BM
DP
NM
Dunn

gera

votato

I’m townreading the whole wagon, who do you think is scum on it?

I dislike the above post even though I agree with everything farside says

You know who said that farside?

Me

When he was very clearly actively reading the thread and replied 7 min after a question but hasn’t done anything

But I’m not giving reasons right

I feel like my read on NS should change......I know that sounds odd, but i just finished a game where a player says all the things that sound right but still that weird ringing sound is in the back of your head saying. NO DON'T BUY IT!!

I’m town as fuck farside

I’m sorry that’s the only thing I can say atm! I’ll weigh in soon

It’s been 24 hours since clidd said he’d give reads btw

I’m caught up

Stun gun is very wordy and I think it’s weird he asked the robot to be less though but I’m not sure it’s AI or not but man that guy can type some long posts

Mala why is my read progression re you town if you said yourself you expected to be tunneled all game

I’m flip flopping on voteto

I think mala town
Far town
Stun town
Gc town
Robot town

I’m nulltown reading bm?
Idk about dp

Still not sure about NS, he has been pretty low under the radar about his thoughts as well.

I’ve been vla for most of the day and I dare say pretty up front when I’m not

I wish mala was here for a second opinion on you

Maybe I could go for farside with my double vote.

Lots of quote walls but its just to show the surface level scum hunting that ns is doing. He just makes minor comments, floats into the background and until the moment called me town. Agrees with a player without really adding anything new. He would also make a great association with gc scum reading back. (If gc is scum) with the tvt thing.

Reasons for my scum read on NS. The last post was the strongest reason.

[farside22]

And yes I still scum read NS. He is better at interactions then he is here, so some of my feeling is part meta.

[Green Crayons]

So my top 2 scum reads are Dunn/NS. Still debating on who the 3rds scum is but those 2 are my strongest ones.

Did you ever explain your ns read? Do you still read ns as scum?

Oh boy I keep doing this.

Explained:

As for NS well I don't like his vote on you. He ignored the Dunn wagon and his reads here really have no explanation.
Like BM for example was pretty much not saying much, Gera hasn't offered much but he went with voting for you over others.
Why the criticism for DP?
I get the impression the list is a reason for him not to vote for Dunn.

Although farside sprinkles other bits in there, the running theme is that ns is scummy because he's avoiding Dunn (who farside is reading as scummy).

I think that's more likely to come from town than scum, as it's easier for town to convince themselves they're right on their primary suspect and start finding others suspicious based on that.

[Not_Mafia]

Scratchings and Maris are the only valid votes for the rest of today

[Green Crayons]

^^^ you jumped ahead 300 posts.

But skimming those 600s posts makes me wonder:

@Mala:

has ns pocketed you? what are your thoughts on ns?

[Green Crayons]

Scratchings and Maris are the only valid votes for the rest of today

Dunn's no longer on the table for you?

[Not_Mafia]

Not for today, he was quite resolute in his pushes, which weren't going to happen, in the face of him and the Scratchings slot getting run up

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

Good luck see y’all tomorrow

[Malakittens]

Excuse u

[Green Crayons]

Farside I’m prettty sure she was right that I used to do it all the time and I actually want to try to work with her this game as evidenced in my iso so I didn’t wanna be brainlessly tunneling all game so I took a step back

What do you think of farside's case on mala?

Spoiler: farside's mala thoughts

Spoiler:

I’m not voting you yet mala but I’m worried my fears are true

No, I’m town I’m just having a rocky start.

It will prob remain on me until he gets a solid scum read that he death tunnels

<3 ya

What the fuck is my reaction to the current battle Mages posts.

@Notty:

Right now scum wise I’m kinda getting some pings, but nothing solid as of yet. {Vot, Dunn, BM}
I have more town pings than scum pings. {HK, bob}

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

VOTE: clidd

Be willing to vote for Dunn.

I had a rough day, there’s no way I’m posting until Wed.

Mod: I’m VLA til Wed. Giving my vote as a proxy to nottyscience

Alright so my problem with SG is that he flipped so easily between BM and GC after he kept hounding that GC is scum because of similarities of tells between other players. Then stated that BM doesn’t feel like scum bc he wouldn’t sort out NM due to meta. Then just flops

It’s like an odd flop. That’s what bothered me is I’m like I read SG going after GC but why is he voting Bm?!?

So above is some quotes from Mala where she calls out notty, has a few town pings but never in any post did she call notty town, but gave her vote to him.
In a few post she says she town read both GC and BM back and forth but out of the blue and for no reason found she joined the BM wagon.
She's had very little follow through with her reads or reasoning on why she finds a player scum. That' s why I call it surface level scum hunting.

this was in my spoiler text.

So above is some quotes from Mala where she calls out notty, has a few town pings but never in any post did she call notty town, but gave her vote to him.
In a few post she says she town read both GC and BM back and forth but out of the blue and for no reason found she joined the BM wagon.
She's had very little follow through with her reads or reasoning on why she finds a player scum. That' s why I call it surface level scum hunting

[Green Crayons]

apparently you can't double the spoiler.

so here's farside's post without my additional spoilers:

Spoiler:

I’m not voting you yet mala but I’m worried my fears are true

No, I’m town I’m just having a rocky start.

It will prob remain on me until he gets a solid scum read that he death tunnels

<3 ya

What the fuck is my reaction to the current battle Mages posts.

@Notty:

Right now scum wise I’m kinda getting some pings, but nothing solid as of yet. {Vot, Dunn, BM}
I have more town pings than scum pings. {HK, bob}

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

VOTE: clidd

Be willing to vote for Dunn.

I had a rough day, there’s no way I’m posting until Wed.

Mod: I’m VLA til Wed. Giving my vote as a proxy to nottyscience

Alright so my problem with SG is that he flipped so easily between BM and GC after he kept hounding that GC is scum because of similarities of tells between other players. Then stated that BM doesn’t feel like scum bc he wouldn’t sort out NM due to meta. Then just flops

It’s like an odd flop. That’s what bothered me is I’m like I read SG going after GC but why is he voting Bm?!?

So above is some quotes from Mala where she calls out notty, has a few town pings but never in any post did she call notty town, but gave her vote to him.
In a few post she says she town read both GC and BM back and forth but out of the blue and for no reason found she joined the BM wagon.
She's had very little follow through with her reads or reasoning on why she finds a player scum. That' s why I call it surface level scum hunting.

this was in my spoiler text.

So above is some quotes from Mala where she calls out notty, has a few town pings but never in any post did she call notty town, but gave her vote to him.
In a few post she says she town read both GC and BM back and forth but out of the blue and for no reason found she joined the BM wagon.
She's had very little follow through with her reads or reasoning on why she finds a player scum. That' s why I call it surface level scum hunting

[notscience]

Excuse u

I don’t have time to deal with this tonight and I’m just getting annoyed in my skims

[Malakittens]

Excuse u

I don’t have time to deal with this tonight and I’m just getting annoyed in my skims

Feel u.

I had a beer Foe the first time since Jan.

[Green Crayons]

Okay, that was a reread (where I skipped ~15 pages in the 20s/30s).


I just want to see Porkens' answers to my Post 1254 Qs, and then I'll vote someone.

[Malakittens]

I’m actually p shocked though that bOb still has his vote on Gera.

As for the GC vs BM discussion. I actually did like how BM did come back to explain his read, but I do get GC point about it taking forever.

Notty I think is town because I don’t think scum!notty would be willing to give his vote temp to me That easily and I like how he changed his read on me in terms of when he was sorting me.

OKAY FARAIDE

FAME ON

[notscience]

Mala I’ll sheep you if you’re confident just give me a shout

[Malakittens]

Not for today, he was quite resolute in his pushes, which weren't going to happen, in the face of him and the Scratchings slot getting run up

Or maybe he is scum that didn’t think it was a threat !!????!!?!???

[Malakittens]

I hope
I either pass out or not spam
This thread

[Malakittens]

^^^ you jumped ahead 300 posts.

But skimming those 600s posts makes me wonder:

@Mala:

has ns pocketed you? what are your thoughts on ns?

He’s awesome and I miss him.

Idk if he’s pocketed me. I doubt it though

[Malakittens]

Who the hell is scratchings

Or Maris

Goddammit NM I’m equally angry at you if that was a troll post or a real post with names for real players you made up.

that would take *effort*. ill go through and make *effort* day 2, or if it seems like the porkens wagon is really falling apart. theres a lot of gut, and it takes time for my brain to catch up with my gut.

Effort pls n thx.

i wont be offended that you dont think im a god.


thats a lie, im pretty hurt.

Paragods exist

[Malakittens]

Can we lynch potatoe

I still like him for scum

Because of...
You guessed it..
Gut