Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Menalque]

@a50 vote S_S then?

[Menalque]

Btw, if we do lynch the JOAT and the game isn't over then BINGLE is the SK. I know it's a very very unlikely scenario to begin with, but if it is the case then Bingle is the ONLY player in this player list who would adopt the holstering policy to hide his existence as SK.

Rude

[Bingle]

I would lynch pretty much anyone before SS here, I think.

SS/Lilith being S/S means that there was no significant push to any towny for a long time. SS would necessarily be the scum PR, who Firepup decided to bus from D1. When the Maria counterwagon popped up, it would have had to be entirely towndriven while there were competing wagons on scum, and scum never joined that wagon.

None of that adds up for me.

[Menalque]

Does A50 have a fetish for insulting scum!me? I am beginning to wonder

[Bingle]

Btw, if we do lynch the JOAT and the game isn't over then BINGLE is the SK. I know it's a very very unlikely scenario to begin with, but if it is the case then Bingle is the ONLY player in this player list who would adopt the holstering policy to hide his existence as SK.

I'd've shot Blake last night, tbh. She's a claimed PR and she has a history of not only catching me but getting me lynched.

[Almost50]

@a50 vote S_S then?

Is it not my turn to hammer? Or are we giving Datisi this chance?

[Bingle]

And why did lillith refuse to vote S_S when it was the only way to save herself?

Because then she couldn't make the "I'm not scum because I'm not voting my cw" argument and she could leave behind the obvious association you're following.

The narrative just falls apart if SS is actually scum though.

[Almost50]

Btw, if we do lynch the JOAT and the game isn't over then BINGLE is the SK. I know it's a very very unlikely scenario to begin with, but if it is the case then Bingle is the ONLY player in this player list who would adopt the holstering policy to hide his existence as SK.

I'd've shot Blake last night, tbh. She's a claimed PR and she has a history of not only catching me but getting me lynched.

OF COURSE you'd argue against that AS SK. Geez, man. I said "if we lynch the JOAT and the game doesn't end", so Town!You had absolutely no reason to refute that!!!

[Bingle]

I mean... SK me also had no reason to refute that. There was no potential gain in saying that, I just felt like saying it.

If I were the SK my best path to victory there is to shut up and shoot you tonight. (Also, it just now occurred to me that I actually would have shot Skitter, because she was a claimed vig who suspected me.)

[Datisi]

bingle, who do you do want to lynch?

[Almost50]

And why did lillith refuse to vote S_S when it was the only way to save herself?

Because then she couldn't make the "I'm not scum because I'm not voting my cw" argument and she could leave behind the obvious association you're following.

The narrative just falls apart if SS is actually scum though.

Straight up: Which is better? To get a mislynch today at the expense of Goon!You being lynched tomorrow (or vigged at night)? Or AVOIDING THE MISLYNCH so you can "maybe" argue you're not scum, and then pick the one fake claim that would get you lynched 10 times out of 10?

I think lillith is still rusty after coming out of her hiatus, and that was proven by her fake claim, which leads me to believe she also wouldn't have thought of "not voting her counterwagon to argue she can't be scum because of that AND to setup the lynch of S_S in the future"

[Menalque]

VOTE COUNT 1.37

gobbledygook [5]:

Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855], lilith2013 [2048]

— [L-2]

Something_Smart [5]

: Firebringer [1124], skitter30 [1664], gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927], Menalque [2000]

— [L-2]

lilith2013 [1]:

Blake Belladonna [1345]

Not Voting [2]:

Almost50, PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 1.38

Something_Smart [5]

: Firebringer [1124], skitter30 [1664], gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927], Menalque [2000]

— [L-2]

gobbledygook [4]

: Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855]

lilith2013 [1]:

Blake Belladonna [1345]

Firebringer [1]:

lilith2013 [2128]

Not Voting [2]:

Almost50, PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 1.39

Something_Smart [5]

: Firebringer [1124], skitter30 [1664], gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927], Menalque [2000]

— [L-2]

gobbledygook [5]

: Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855], lilith2013 [2218]

— [L-2]

lilith2013 [1]:

Blake Belladonna [1345]

MariaR [1]:

Almost50 [2174]

Not Voting [1]:

PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 1.40

gobbledygook [5]

: Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855], lilith2013 [2218]

— [L-2]

Something_Smart [3]

: Firebringer [1124], gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927]

PenguinPower [2]:

Blake Belladonna [2280], Menalque [2300]

MariaR [1]:

Almost50 [2174]

Pink Ball [1]:

skitter30 [2290]

Not Voting [1]:

PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 1.41

gobbledygook [6]

: Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855], lilith2013 [2218], Firebringer [2358]

— [L-1]

Something_Smart [2]

: gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927]

PenguinPower [2]:

Blake Belladonna [2280], Menalque [2300]

MariaR [2]:

Almost50 [2174], skitter30 [2314]

Not Voting [1]:

PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 1.FINAL

gobbledygook [7]

: Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855], lilith2013 [2218], Firebringer [2358], Almost50 [2367]

— HAMMER

Something_Smart [2]

: gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927]

PenguinPower [2]:

Blake Belladonna [2280], Menalque [2300]

MariaR [1]:

skitter30 [2314]

Not Voting [1]:

PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

This is kinda interesting. Both lilith and firebringer did move onto gobbles D1 when the alternative was SS. But equally, would lilith have felt comfortable enough with the gamestate to be distancing with firebringer while the scum PR was competing with a town wagon?

[Menalque]

Maybe it’s just datisi actually

[Datisi]

pardon?

[Almost50]

Does A50 have a fetish for insulting scum!me? I am beginning to wonder

Not at all, but I have not been scum with you, and scum!you has not beat me 3 times in a row (and manage to lynch me in LyLo despite a Cop clear on me). Perhaps I'm underestimating your scum game because I haven't seen it frequently enough?

[Menalque]

Maybe the last scum is actually just you

[Datisi]

i heard wjat you said

[Menalque]

I have not been scum with you,

I have actually, we were scum together in surprise mafia way back in the day where you and Dunn bussed me for the win

You don’t remember? Pepperidge farm remembers

I’m just saying, in a PL like this I’d definitely consider holstering and just scumhunting through the game. I also think Blake would potentially go down the route of just holstering, not just bingle. Maaaaybe datisi too

[Datisi]

there's an implied "please elaborate" there if you didn't catch that

[Menalque]

i heard wjat you said

Your voting history really doesn’t look gr8 if you look in ofhrz’s ISO

[Bingle]

bingle, who do you do want to lynch?

I dunno.

I think all of SS/Maria/PP are town based on circumstances, and think Blake should recognize that.

A50 is just obvtown.

That leaves me with:

Menalque
Bingle
Blake Belladonna
Datisi

Of those? I'd probably prefer to lynch Mena first. BB makes the most sense as scum, I think, but she's claimed PR and we're nowhere near LYLO. I don't have the town equity to get any of those to lynch though, so I'm going to make my arguments and then presumably eat the lynch so I'm not a distraction.

[Menalque]

Like you parked on gobbles, wouldn’t commit on lilith/S_S and when you eventually did it was on S_S

Then immediately hopped to Maria once S_S dispersed

And then again were cagey about voting lilith (admittedly the latter bit of that was to troll me and I don’t think it was AI)

[Menalque]

I'd probably prefer to lynch Mena first.

Oh, interesting

Go on bingle

[Datisi]

yeah i parked on gobbles because i thought he was scum? i was sheeping my townread onto maria?

[Bingle]

I mean... Ego wise I want to be right on Datisi and you on Day 1. That's it. There's no real deeper logic. I just get to feel better about my play D1 if you're the last scum.