Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

[notscience]

Mala I’m not lynching Dunn he sounded town the past few days

[Porkens]

I think he has you pocketed.

[notscience]

How do you pocket someone you have no interactions with and why pocket me of all people

[Porkens]

interacting and calling you town

Spoiler:

Town or scum im enjoying hk-50 commitment for posting style.

He's scum with votato, but I'll let him live for being amusing

Why? I don't think it really is going to change how we read him.

Its how I play its not gonna change

You can’t just tell me not to do something and then expect me not to do that thing

Besides that wasn’t really a game relevant topic so I’m not really sure why it matters I agreed with it

Why is votato part of this sentence?

I vaguely saw his first post as a partner post

You can’t just tell me not to do something and then expect me not to do that thing

That's how the real world works

That's what you get for being passive on page 1

Did you learn your lesson from animal mafia or do you really think NS is scummy?

What lesson applies here?

Ideal world=/=the real world

I agree with farside's above post

My case is that his posts suck and he has no reason for his vote in the first place

Beetle juice

I wouldn't say he's town, just that he's acted like this as town before and so i don't think he's scummy

Notscience feels town

farside is scummy

Is that the only other read that you have. That you think mala is scum and battle reminds you of one of his town games?


These are the players on your wagon so far:

DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, notscience, stungun0404

And the below are on your one claimed town read

Not_Mafia, votato, Green Crayons

While your one scum read is on vot.


And since if you are town you would know that your town. What do you read of the players on the wagons that you know or think or town. And at the same time the wagon of the player that your scum read mala is pushing


corrected a bit of the gramma

I don't have a read on Not_Mafia or votato. Green Crayons is null.

[stungun0404]

Dunn has not seemed that scummy to me at all. Granted, I have never played with Dunn scum, but this game seems like the town dunn I have seen multiple times. Thus, I still don't want him to be lynched, especially on D1.

[votato]

Bc I’ve been drinking and now my neighbors who I was porch chilling with have left, let’s run down the player list.


votato - I’m thinking town but siiigh
bob3141 - leaning town now tbh
DoctorPepper - null bit was thinking town at some point
Not_Mafia- town Honestly not sure how folks can’t see between the lines with his posting.
geraintm - pretty sure town
Ghost Ganster stungun0404 - town Like, annoyingly super town and I say annoyingly because he can get a thought in his head and it might be wrong by gd he runs it down.
Green Crayons - town
farside22 - honestly thinking scum. Sorry <3
HK 50 - town, even tho I don’t k ow where he’s coming from with his fixation on stun
Battle Mage clidd - scum
Malakittens - null. Like if you put a gun to my head I’d slot her town but *** she’s been pretty absent in a way I cannot read
notscience - town. Not even a Q.
Dunnstral - scum

this read list won me over on GC.

this post does make me question: what about this reads list won you over about GC?

Also, @ Vota: can you answer this?

more or less lined up exactly with my own thinking and reads.

[notscience]

Rvs interaction and calling me town prior to my read on him reading town based on his late play not his midday play

Okay

[farside22]

But the thing you said is I never called town Notty.
I just proved that was a lie.
What we OT not it’s weak in your eyes
I still called him town
And then had to take a mental health vacation and have my vote to him

So take your twist

Your town read was off one post compared to others is weak. Your whole game has been fluff, even your return had brought back nothing new.
At all.
Tell me when you have ever given your vote to anyone. Ever.

[farside22]

Spoiler: ns vote on votato

As a new day broke out, Jake was found dead... asleep. Despite the wailing of the town to do his job, he stayed still all the same. Micc, the secretary, didn't do Jake's job for him, but instead woke him up.

Vote Count 1.6

Dunnstral (4):

DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, Green Crayons

HK 50 (2):

votato, bob3141

votato (2):

Malakittens, stungun0404

notscience (1):

geraintm

Malakittens (1):

Dunnstral

Battle Mage (1):

Not_Mafia

Green Crayons (1):

Battle Mage

Not voting (1):

notscience

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Mod Notes:

Majority is 7 players.

Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-22 07:23:04).[/area]

DP it doesnt look good for you 3/4 of us are already town you best town it up soon before the probabilities getcha

VOTE: Votato

Looks like an all green wagon there lets get this sucker moving

Mala
Bob
Robot
Farside
Stun

GC?

BM
DP
NM
Dunn

gera

votato

292 is a bad vote

Yeah, idg why ns voted votato. What does the all green bw even mean when there was only 2 votes?

ns, you ever explain/justify this?

fmpov the vote made sense and the unvote made sense. i townread ns for the way it went down based on meta. meta was the reason for the vote.

Why does ns get a free pass with reference to meta whether on him or about you?

its not a free pass. at every stage NS reacted exactly as i anticipated town NS would. when i was lurky NS got pinged, and based on my posts when i came back to the thread NS responded exactly the way NS was supposed to. NS is town.

You have a convenient meta reasoning read on ns but you haven't stated why this game is different then how i was in the large normal.

[notscience]

Don’t hate me cause you can’t out obv town me

[farside22]

Let’s Lynch farside mala it’ll be fun

She can get mad about me not having a sensible reason again

Being a shitty player with an attitude helps how? Like do you get off thinking its funny to just being shitty?
Ill be happy to show a game with 145 pages a attitude that did no good for town. Do you think it really sorts players out?

[farside22]

Yeah im not dealing with any more assholes

mod replace me.

[votato]

Spoiler: ns vote on votato

As a new day broke out, Jake was found dead... asleep. Despite the wailing of the town to do his job, he stayed still all the same. Micc, the secretary, didn't do Jake's job for him, but instead woke him up.

Vote Count 1.6

Dunnstral (4):

DoctorPepper, farside22, HK 50, Green Crayons

HK 50 (2):

votato, bob3141

votato (2):

Malakittens, stungun0404

notscience (1):

geraintm

Malakittens (1):

Dunnstral

Battle Mage (1):

Not_Mafia

Green Crayons (1):

Battle Mage

Not voting (1):

notscience

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Mod Notes:

Majority is 7 players.

Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-22 07:23:04).[/area]

DP it doesnt look good for you 3/4 of us are already town you best town it up soon before the probabilities getcha

VOTE: Votato

Looks like an all green wagon there lets get this sucker moving

Mala
Bob
Robot
Farside
Stun

GC?

BM
DP
NM
Dunn

gera

votato

292 is a bad vote

Yeah, idg why ns voted votato. What does the all green bw even mean when there was only 2 votes?

ns, you ever explain/justify this?

fmpov the vote made sense and the unvote made sense. i townread ns for the way it went down based on meta. meta was the reason for the vote.

Why does ns get a free pass with reference to meta whether on him or about you?

its not a free pass. at every stage NS reacted exactly as i anticipated town NS would. when i was lurky NS got pinged, and based on my posts when i came back to the thread NS responded exactly the way NS was supposed to. NS is town.

You have a convenient meta reasoning read on ns but you haven't stated why this game is different then how i was in the large normal.

you werent memorable in the large normal. didnt you get NKed early? i remember you from GNR obviously, but i was too new and we got in a big TvT

[notscience]

Below isn’t really relevant to the game

Spoiler: farside

I’m sorry. Idk why but it’s like every time I’m annoyed at something you posted something that annoyed me further and I’ve kinda been a raging douche and taking it out in game and it’s kinda why I left before is I was doing it all the time now I’m doing it again .-. . I know it won’t change anything about you replacing out but I genuinely am sorry. Idk. And you can call this scum theater or whatever but I genuinely feel bad about it. I get if you never want to play with me again because yeah I’ve kinda been a little shit and now I feel guilty af which isn’t really strengthening my apology but here we are. We can talk about it postgame.

[Green Crayons]

Finally home from work and post office.

Thank you for the extra time all. In response to this:

<snip...>

Did you actually say why Dunn is worth your vote here? I don’t think so.


Also tell me more about these “clear associatives” that would come with a Dunn flip.

Dunn’s got a

very

good chance of flipping scum, and everyone has shared reads of him one way or the other, including a small group of defenders. That will tell us a lot.

I have a solid townread on HK and Dunn’s vote there is a safe non-starter, which I think he knows. His vote’s there, but he isn’t doing anything to make it happen, I’m guessing because he doesn’t really want to present an alternative to my mislynch, which seemed pretty certain after clidd ghosted.

Dunn’s commentary in 822 also rubs me the wrong way. He’s casting shade on GC (and tato) without actually challenging him. (I also TR GC. I can understand the scum read on BM, and even though it's wrong I read GC as scum hunting and the votes there really don't make much sense to me.)

Finally, he’s been active lurking and trolling all day.

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I'd be ok lynching votato, but it really won't tell us as much as Dunn.

Okay. I think you're scum.

I commend the pivot to hard reading me as town. I instinctively don't want to lynch someone who does that.

But I don't think this Dunn suspicion is natural. Dunn was tied for the second bw (with me, who also had 2 votes), and I think you decided to try to push and focus on Dunn because he already had some votes and he hasn't nearly been a pain in the ass like I have. I say that because I don't think your suspicions are legitimate.

For starters, you didn't give suspicions originally for your Dunn vote.

And now it comes down:

- to pushing a non-starter wagon on HK--but it's no more of a nonstarter than farside trying to vote GC, as stun is happy with both a HK and GC vote but nobody else is
- picking one post (that conveniently defends me) with an okay theory, but would need some plenty more work to be a banner case
- uses buzzwords "active lurking and trolling," neither of which I think are accurate; he hasn't beetlejuiced and he isn't a troll player


I'm also not convinced that Dunn gives us great associative tells any more than other players who have been the thread's topic of conversation. You're pretty nonspecific on that point, which I admit is generally NAI, but I would think that if this was legitimate point you would have *some* specific examples in mind.

VOTE: Porkens

[stungun0404]

Yeah im not dealing with any more assholes

mod replace me.

farside, is there any way you can at least gut out the rest of this day phase? I only ask this because it's got 22 hours left, and we've already had the time extended 3 times, which is more than enough, and I sincerely don't want it to happen again.

If not, I understand, but it would just make things easier if we don't have to pause the game until night time searching for a replacement, and allowing the replacement to catch up during the night phase is also optimal.

[notscience]

You can’t redact a replace out I don’t think which makes me feel shitty and like I have to make it up to her and carry tf out of this game so here we go serious mode

[votato]

yep, sorry to make you feel bad farside. wasnt the intention. why is it a trend lately that everyone asks in-thread to be replaced out?

[stungun0404]

I kinda just want this day phase to be over with so we can get a flip, and also I feel this lynch might be scum, so VOTE: Porkens
Worst case scenario, it hits a vanilla townie, and we can all regroup and reanalyze everything tomorrow from a new perspective.

The wagon is now

L-2

[notscience]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmeh

not a great reason but also not scum indicative imo

At that point in the game it was a carbon copy, hence my vote. And him saying he prefers scum was weird given me watching him lurk to a win and I felt like he was lying about it too.

@Mala: has ns pocketed you? what are your thoughts on ns?

Candidly we both should be more paranoid of each other than we are but I think it’s due to not playing together for so long the paranoias notnthere anymore? Idk. She wasn’t wrong I used to tunnel her incessantly but that’s not a fun way to play so I didn’t do that and our reads are linking up which I think is a good sign for her

farside's case

I mean besides the fact it’s literally similar reasoning to her read obnme? I feel like farside knows that scum aren’t likely to use the same tactics to hide. Plus she’s been saying we’re both in her four scum and I don’t know of a scum team that would so readily give their votes and tie themselves to each other- even though we’d be expected to play this close it’s definitely a step up from where it’d be if we were buddies or something- plus we’re still moving autonomously.

I feel like I missed stuff further back standby

[stungun0404]

And also, GC I like the reasons behind your vote, that's the most townlike post I have seen from you today!

[notscience]

Also NS, I can understand the rationale about not wanting to move malakitten vote to a degree, but I expect that the additional concealed reason to be explained asap when possible.

Honestly I still personally dont see it lining up with your projected tone over the matter

Ive honestly always been a big talker lol

You can call me scum for not moving it if you want I guess but I was just enjoying having the freedom too but with how much I’ve been waffling it didn’t seem like a good idea to slap a vote down.

Consolidate elsewhere, the idea that there can’t be any other lynch is false. Again, Dunn has 1 less vote than I do.


Lynching Dunn will tell us a lot. There are clear associativas. BM tarnishes this slot so badly what do you learn about anything? Keep me around you won’t regret it.

The fuck kinda sleazy car salesman shit is this

[notscience]

This might even suggest some scum are in the passive players group

All 3 scum won’t be passive or it’s a sure fire loss for them and they know it

You need 1 agg 1 pass 1 in between

[notscience]

he hasn't beetlejuiced

Yes Dunn has I called him on it lol

[stungun0404]

This might even suggest some scum are in the passive players group

All 3 scum won’t be passive or it’s a sure fire loss for them and they know it

You need 1 agg 1 pass 1 in between

I said some scum, not all. That means 1, maybe 2 at most.