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[notscience]

What’s the point of that statement then. I can literally make any generalization like that- stuff like that won’t really help anything and just seems like an attempt to be profound lol

[notscience]

I’d be down for a bob lunch.

@geraintm- I know you don’t like day one but can you muster up a readslist? It doesn’t need to be hk levels in depth just little blips for why you think. I don’t know where your heads at currently.

[stungun0404]

It makes it clear we are not dealing with 3 active scum members pushing lynches, which could even be taken to mean the likelihood is greater that geraintm is scum (the most passive player in this game imo).

[votato]

nope, bob is town.

[Green Crayons]

he hasn't beetlejuiced

Yes Dunn has I called him on it lol

I thought that was gerain you called out for that?

[stungun0404]

And that's a definite no to lynching bob

[votato]

I’d be down for a bob lunch.

@geraintm- I know you don’t like day one but can you muster up a readslist? It doesn’t need to be hk levels in depth just little blips for why you think. I don’t know where your heads at currently.

yeah, actually what the heck is this. whats going through your head. you were so town.

[notscience]

Porkens level with me is your main reason for your stance on Dunn self preservation? I don’t really think it’s inherently scummy to be self preserving- as town you only know yourself to be town but everyone else has a 1/4 chance. There’s some weird stuff you’ve posted I don’t like but I’m curious.

Pedit
Why is bob town to both of you?

And no shit all the scum aren’t hyper active I’m townreading most of them pretty solidly

Pedit
You can read flip on me if you want but I’m here to try hard now

[notscience]

Spoiler:

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

My gut feeling is that dun is town. As i just can't see scum blatantly making blank votes on a player claiming to scum read him and the other going wagon. It feels too blatant for scum. Would have thought that if he is scum then he would have tried dressing it up, instead he simply posts a series of quotes and doesn't say why they lead him to scum reading not mafia.

Would scum real vote for someone when their last comment on that player was that he had in fact had no read on them. If he was scum i would have expected something along the lines of something between a few short sentences to several paragraphs.

I can totally see scum making blank votes. The fact he’s being cyrpitc and won’t explain his votes makes me think there’s no case to begin with and he’s hiding behind blank votes.

My case is that his posts suck and he has no reason for his vote in the first place

Beetle juice

[notscience]

I called geraintm out for actively reading and not participating

[votato]

hmmm

[notscience]

You know damn well I sound more like how you’re used to me this past hour than I have this entire game votato

[Jake The Wolfie]

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[notscience]

DP I’m gonna need you to get your hands dirty you’re flitting around the outskirts of everything and it’s concerning me

[notscience]

Also I don’t feel like scum would sit on the same rvs vote all day even though they got called out for it like five times. I don’t think anyone in this playerlist other than him and kinda myself (which he wouldn’t know) even look really heavily into vca so it’s not like he’s trying to avoid it I felt genuine relief when I read his earlier post to mala about his “day1ness”

Am I happy with what he’s provided, no. Do I think he’s scum? Also no.

[notscience]

Mala we’re talking about farside tomorrow when we are both on tia

[notscience]

Whoever is townreading not mafia can you walk me through it? I’m not really seeing any alignment tells through his posting or lack there of it’s kinda hard to read a tunnel

[notscience]

I’m getting ready for bed but will reply to anything before I pass out. Will try to do stuff in the am.

[Porkens]

Finally home from work and post office.

Thank you for the extra time all. In response to this:

<snip...>

Did you actually say why Dunn is worth your vote here? I don’t think so.


Also tell me more about these “clear associatives” that would come with a Dunn flip.

Dunn’s got a

very

good chance of flipping scum, and everyone has shared reads of him one way or the other, including a small group of defenders. That will tell us a lot.

I have a solid townread on HK and Dunn’s vote there is a safe non-starter, which I think he knows. His vote’s there, but he isn’t doing anything to make it happen, I’m guessing because he doesn’t really want to present an alternative to my mislynch, which seemed pretty certain after clidd ghosted.

Dunn’s commentary in 822 also rubs me the wrong way. He’s casting shade on GC (and tato) without actually challenging him. (I also TR GC. I can understand the scum read on BM, and even though it's wrong I read GC as scum hunting and the votes there really don't make much sense to me.)

Finally, he’s been active lurking and trolling all day.

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I'd be ok lynching votato, but it really won't tell us as much as Dunn.

Okay. I think you're scum.

I commend the pivot to hard reading me as town. I instinctively don't want to lynch someone who does that.

But I don't think this Dunn suspicion is natural. Dunn was tied for the second bw (with me, who also had 2 votes), and I think you decided to try to push and focus on Dunn because he already had some votes and he hasn't nearly been a pain in the ass like I have. I say that because I don't think your suspicions are legitimate.

For starters, you didn't give suspicions originally for your Dunn vote.

And now it comes down:

- to pushing a non-starter wagon on HK--but it's no more of a nonstarter than farside trying to vote GC, as stun is happy with both a HK and GC vote but nobody else is
- picking one post (that conveniently defends me) with an okay theory, but would need some plenty more work to be a banner case
- uses buzzwords "active lurking and trolling," neither of which I think are accurate; he hasn't beetlejuiced and he isn't a troll player


I'm also not convinced that Dunn gives us great associative tells any more than other players who have been the thread's topic of conversation. You're pretty nonspecific on that point, which I admit is generally NAI, but I would think that if this was legitimate point you would have *some* specific examples in mind.

VOTE: Porkens

I guess if you can sincerely pull a townread off Dunn here that’s that. I’m not going to be able to convince you water is wet. But if you want to call me scummy for suspecting Dunn you’ve got a looong list of names above and below mine.

This is (was) farside’s town game and you are trying to compare her to Dunn. These pieces don’t go together.

[Porkens]

Why do you refer to yourself in the third person?

You don’t think Dunn has been active lurking or trolling? You are not making a great case for yourself here. This is almost as bad as stunguns original case on you.

[notscience]

Also side note but can y’all that keep quoting all these walls start putting them in spoilers or snipping them or something it’s making it harder to read

[Porkens]

Porkens level with me is your main reason for your stance on Dunn self preservation? I don’t really think it’s inherently scummy to be self preserving- as town you only know yourself to be town but everyone else has a 1/4 chance. There’s some weird stuff you’ve posted I don’t like but I’m curious.

Pedit
Why is bob town to both of you?

And no shit all the scum aren’t hyper active I’m townreading most of them pretty solidly

Pedit
You can read flip on me if you want but I’m here to try hard now

Lynching Dunn will preserve me, but that’s not the reason I’m pushing for his Lynch. I have my theory of the scumteam and he’s the keystone. I wanna pull it out.

[Porkens]

Whoever is townreading not mafia can you walk me through it? I’m not really seeing any alignment tells through his posting or lack there of it’s kinda hard to read a tunnel

It’s shitty but I just feel like that’s his meta.

[notscience]

Lay your theory on me I can’t make heads or tails of it from your iso

[notscience]

I also think the robot calling for a truce with stun seemed town because actively avoiding shitting on the thread isn’t something he had to do but he’s trying to keep from apathy inducing