Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

[DkKoba]

yoink

[Clover Ebi]

This game started 2 days ago and there's 700 posts that is impressive to me. Oh boy, I got a lot to get back into. Now time to figure out the best way to do this without draining myself out.

[DkKoba]

This game started 2 days ago and there's 700 posts that is impressive to me. Oh boy, I got a lot to get back into. Now time to figure out the best way to do this without draining myself out.

I have that effect on games...
if you'd like a summary I can give you one tomorrow when I'm off of work.

[DkKoba]

or rather... today LOL its 4am where I'm at

[Clover Ebi]

This game started 2 days ago and there's 700 posts that is impressive to me. Oh boy, I got a lot to get back into. Now time to figure out the best way to do this without draining myself out.

I have that effect on games...
if you'd like a summary I can give you one tomorrow when I'm off of work.

That'd be nice. I feel the pressure to try and catch up on all the pages I missed because I know if I can just get my feet back into the ground I'll be in that coil because if I can do one thing on this site I guess it's be townread but uh yeah coming home from a long day of work and seeing all this is pretty draining. I could probably do a few pages for now though.

[Clover Ebi]

I will go make some coffee and give this a good ole college try. I'm used to fast games but that's when deadlines are 2 days not this!

[Clover Ebi]

im actually reading harder into their ISO.. how TF did yall let him get in so far??????????????????

Does anyone know if DK is normally this energetic/aggro as scum? I'm inclined to townread this entrance. It feels pretty genuine to me.
Sleeper on page 15 seems pretty ok to me. The uneasy thought process is one I have all the time yet try to hide and fail to do so.

Idk how anyone has me in a team right now when I should be in zero with how little I've posted.

[Clover Ebi]

Clover's 107 pings me big time.

we arent gonna discuss day 2 because it could help scum to discuss it now.

How so?

explaining that would help scum. you trying to bait me into explaining it makes me think you're scum.[/quo*te]

blink

...Huh? I am just-huh?! You think talking about day 2 helps scum and because I asked for more detail why I'm scummy for it... am I getting that all right?

I don't read the tonality as genuine

at all

, given how large an overreaction this is. Like without weighing in on the validity of votato's point, I found his argumentation to be perfectly clear, so to respond with supposed indignant confusion comes off as badly faked emotional outcry.

I am not someone who can fake or probably would try to fake such an emotion. Is it really that hard to believe that I just didn't get why talking about day 2 is scummy? I'm curious.

I'm surprised some people have townreads on this slot based off 9 relatively contentless posts.

We agree on this though!

[Clover Ebi]

Up to page 20 and I think this works for me so far
HEAL: Clover
HEAL: Dk
HEAL: Deimos
HEAL: Votato
HEAL: Sleeper

[Clover Ebi]

Atm I don't really have any stong scumreads but Pooky has been talked about so much I want to lynch him if we don't auto win. That's decent logic right?

[Clover Ebi]

But yeah I think (DC, pooky, deimos, votato, clover) is prob winning here

You think Pooky came off good in the DK vs Pooky fight? I'd like to talk to you on that

[Clover Ebi]

Okay I skimmed the last few pages causes it uh, wasn't that nice but I feel good on the first 4 in my co. Sleeper could be replaced but yeah.

[Datisi]

Tuxedo Mask has requested replacement.

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.17

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)

coalition

PookyTheMagicalBear [5]:

Deimos27, SleeperSoul, DonCorleone, PookyTheMagicalBear, votato

votato [5]:

votato, PookyTheMagicalBear, DonCorleone, Deimos27, SleeperSoul

DonCorleone [5]:

DonCorleone, SleeperSoul, Clover Ebi, PookyTheMagicalBear, Deimos27

Tuxedo Mask [5]:

Deimos27, DkKoba, DonCorleone, Tuxedo Mask, SleeperSoul

Clover Ebi [5]:

Clover Ebi, DkKoba, Deimos27, votato, SleeperSoul

SleeperSoul [4]:

Deimos27, SleeperSoul, votato, Tuxedo Mask

DkKoba [4]:

Tuxedo Mask, votato, DkKoba, Clover Ebi

Deimos27 [4]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, votato, DonCorleone, SleeperSoul

Alduskkel [4]:

Alduskkel, votato, SleeperSoul, DkKoba

lynch

SleeperSoul (1):

Deimos27

Tuxedo Mask (1):

DonCorleone

PookyTheMagicalBear (1):

Alduskkel

not voting (6):

votato, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Tuxedo Mask, DkKoba

flavour

mod notes

• Replacing Tuxedo Mask.
  
• Play nice.

[DkKoba]

Good morning

[DkKoba]

I had a dream that a certain user was mafia

[SleeperSoul]

I wrote the post you are reading right now before bed.

Hey guys I'm back to catch up on everything and substantiate my reads. Before I look at everything I just want to say that my 'scum read' on pooky was a reaction test/joke. dKKona, if you're scum I'd say your playstyle is questionable. Okay time to catch up now.

I throw sheep entrails at the wall and the blood spray pattern will reveal who the bad people are

I knew you were wicked. pooky is scum, guys. gnight

HURT: pooky

[DkKoba]

What did you gleam from your reaction tes

[DkKoba]

test?*

[DkKoba]

Atm I don't really have any stong scumreads but Pooky has been talked about so much I want to lynch him if we don't auto win. That's decent logic right?

People with high post counts are usually town ~~

[DkKoba]

[SleeperSoul]

I'm working hard. Get your brain ready for a massive post. I hope it's worth it.

[DkKoba]

I eagerly await your analysis

[SleeperSoul]

Substantiating my coalition reads from before post 417. Listed from strongest to weakest:


*****Pooky*****:

Spoiler:

let's win this first day boys

get it done

I think we have a 85% chance of winning this game outright if townies act really townie



let's do it

Same plan as me.

DC pretty susp

a real townie would've said yes

Cute little quips like this remind me of town!Pooky from the lovers game.

I think there are 2 high-ev methods to play day 1.

1) we figure out 5 definite townies, throw em in the coalition - win the game.

2) we throw the 5 worst players in the coalition - if they're scum we will kick their asses in the real game cuz they're bad.

The first plan makes perfect sense. I think the second plan is bait for scum to hang themselves with.

we also won't know how many scum are in the coalition yes? So that's a bad plan there pooky.

50% of my mafia play is making bad plans and seeing who figures out they are terrible.

Votato a real G here

Pooky acknowledges his scumbait plan. town points for both votato and pooky.

Pooky, you ignored my request for a fight, now you're ready for DC's boring plan.... wtf?

I'm reading you as town why would I fight you

I mean, we town read eachother while 'fighting' last game.... So him not wanting to do it this game came off as AI. you think it's NAI?

For it to be a true fight, there must be consequences - life and death -lynch or let live. Without the danger there can be no information gained.

A quick, calm, logical town!rebuttal. I think pooky would have gotten more excited at the opportunity to pocket me by fighting if he was scum.

yea you'd be pretty terrible as scum ngl

PREACH!

This is where I become pretty much locktown on pooky. The next post is Deimos's first long quotey townie post, afterwards pooky responds by showing he's on the same page about me.

sleeper has to be town

if he was scum he would've told us all about it by now

*****Deimos27*****:

Spoiler:

Anyone wanna form a townblock?

He has the same plan I do.

deimos my number 1 townread right now

he's so clueless he has to be town

Pooky is 'brutaly honest' in defense of him. The honesty makes pooky and deimos seem town.

DC, how about you play the game like normal.
And you actually case your solve.
And people sheep you only if they agree with you?

This comes accross as very serioustownie to me.

DC, how about you play the game like normal.
And you actually case your solve.
And people sheep you only if they agree with you?

I prefer option a) I solve the game and everyone sheeps me and then I get lynched upon BoP if I’m wrong

Whats the matter Deimos, worried?

Worried about trusting the game to one player who I know nothing of? Yes, naturally.
I don't have such blind faith in you, nor lack of self-esteem for myself, that I would readily agree your strategy is higher EV than a cooperative, interactive one, where I still get to rely on my own judgment.

we arent gonna discuss day 2 because

it could help scum

to discuss it now.

If this is actually true, town points for votato

... what?

HEAL: Deimos

HEAL: Alduskkel

HEAL: Clover

HEAL: Sleeper

HEAL: Tux

thats an interesting list. to me none of those people are obvtown. maybe deimos? but no its too early to say for deimos. actually, deimos is leaning the other way at this early stage.

Pretty significant progression to go from Deimos is maybe obvtown to Deimos is leaning "the other way" (I assume that means scum). Walk me through your thought process there?

we arent gonna discuss day 2 because it could help scum to discuss it now.

How so?

explaining that would help scum. you trying to bait me into explaining it makes me think you're scum.[/quo*te]

blink

...Huh? I am just-huh?! You think talking about day 2 helps scum and because I asked for more detail why I'm scummy for it... am I getting that all right?

Yes, that's exactly right, and his argument was pretty straightforward so I dislike this seeming indignation.

actually if I count myself as town then everyone else has exactly 75% chance of being town. I calculated this yesterday.

Also, according to my calculations, there are 28 possible scum pairs in this game if I count myself as town.

And what value does this latter calculation provide you? What is the value of outing it?

Deimos makes his first superDUPERserioustownie post. At this point I am reading him as town.

This some kind of metaread? I get gutpings from like every one of his posts.

Deimos expresses doubt on pooky's confidence on me, like a good townie should.

*****votato*****:

Spoiler:

dc are you scum?

This rubs

me

as town votato, probably 'should be' NAI

we also won't know how many scum are in the coalition yes? So that's a bad plan there pooky.

votato recognizes that pooky's scumbait plan is 'bad'.

we also won't know how many scum are in the coalition yes? So that's a bad plan there pooky.

50% of my mafia play is making bad plans and seeing who figures out they are terrible.

Votato a real G here

Pooky acknowledges his scumbait plan. town points for both votato and pooky.

Initial tinfoil-hat solve: pooky and votato are pocketing me.

votato pocketed me in the lovers game

Sleeper you're doing pretty well for your first scum game

Sounds like town!votato wary of me pocketing him.

have you already sorted me pooky? or do i need to do more?

Is this real? As in do you think pooky should be able to have a read on you already?

yes.

I agree with votato. I dunno about 'should be able to', but it certainly seems plausible.

i have already sorted pooky with 90% accuracy.

I buy this.

Also a question I was thinking about pregame and would like some opinions on: Say we fail this day one. Is it best to lynch inside the Coli day 1 or go outside it to see if-you know what the more I type out this post the more stupid I feel nevermind
pedit: I can't tell if this is a joke

we arent gonna discuss day 2 because it could help scum to discuss it now.
its serious.

I agree with votato here.

HEAL: Deimos

HEAL: Alduskkel

HEAL: Clover

HEAL: Sleeper

HEAL: Tux

thats an interesting list. to me none of those people are obvtown. maybe deimos? but no its too early to say for deimos. actually, deimos is leaning the other way at this early stage.

Seems townie to me. Logical post from concerned a townie.

you trying to bait me into explaining it makes me think you're scum.

Sounds like something I would say.

Something I'd say as town.

yes. talking about scum's optimal strategy only helps scum at this stage. insisting that we discuss scum's optimal strategy and in fact trying to goad me into explaining what i think that strategy is, is scummy.

Another logical concernedtownie post.

*****DonCorleone*****:

Spoiler:

Have you read any of the previous editions of coalition?

There’s 4 and the only one town lost was the one where the coalition failed

This is a good, townie question and followup.

How about this: I read the game instead of playing, once I get to 4 townreads we make them + me the coalition and if I’m wrong you lynch me?

I did say the plan was 'boring' but if DC really is good at sitting back and reading like it seems he is, then this is a townie plan similar to mine, except my plan was to talk a lot more.

Okay.

Sleeper is town.
Clover is town.
Pooky is lightly town.
Votato is lightly town.

Aldus is null.
Bugspray is null.

Deimos is lightly scum.

Tux may be scum.

At the time I liked this list because I'm on the top, of course . I'm reading deimos as town at this point but it only recently 'flipped' so I can understand DC's scum lean on deimos. Overall, this post is a major factor in my town lean on DC. The only thing I'm not sure about is the clover read. I had a null read on clover at the time. But as I am looking to substantiate my coalition reads, I haven't really seen anything scummy from clover jumping out at me so far. Also I haven't really been looking at clover, I intend to do so after this long post is completed.

ME:

Spoiler:

Okay, that's my reads substantiated, now I will finish catching up on everyhing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

People with high post counts are usually town ~~

this is true but most of your posts are just spamming and avoiding actual discussion by hitting your target with tons of questions and then flooding the thread with one liners or 1 word posts that have no game-relevance.

when you analyze post count by content versus nonsense it's pretty clear you're just trying to confuse/snow the town by flooding this thread with garbage posts.