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Post Post #3900 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 3880, Bingle wrote:
In post 3733, Menalque wrote:Hmmm.
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Or better yet

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Post Post #3901 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:18 pm

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In post 3899, Almost50 wrote:One more page to go, and it's come down to:

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Or

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Post Post #3902 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 3896, Bingle wrote:He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.
Why not think of "FB made the kill" alternative? I mean, why would the JOAT even bother the risk of being caught OR exhausting their 1-shot ability when it was obvious they'll be shooting skitter anyway? Wordt case scenario is the kill would be blocked and then they'd know it was a DOCTOR who stopped their kill on N1 and not -say- a JK. (There are other possibilities such as Hider, so the kill going through tells then their target on N1 was either a Hider or protected by a Doctor, but not a JK)

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Post Post #3903 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:26 pm

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If we assume FB makes the kill assuming skitter wouldn't be protected that doesn't explain why JOAT me doesn't roleblock skitts when I'm firmly in her PoE.

It's not a hard clear, but it is strong evidence that I'm town, which is exactly what Mena claimed it was.

The evidence on Dats is significantly weaker, also as Mena claimed.
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Post Post #3904 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:22 pm

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In post 3888, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3729, Blake Belladonna wrote:
V/LA until further notice. The next heat wave is here and it doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.
Does this mean you're wearing less clothes? Asking for a friend. :twisted:
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Post Post #3905 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:11 pm

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VOTE COUNT 3.1
Bingle [1]:
Blake Belladonna []
PenguinPower [1]:
Menalque []
Menalque [1]:
PenguinPower []
Datisi [1]:
MariaR []

Not Voting [4]:
Bingle, Something_Smart, Almost50, Datisi

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Post Post #3906 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:15 pm

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In post 3672, Menalque wrote:
@ofhrz are scum multitasking?
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Post Post #3907 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:15 pm

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In post 3903, Bingle wrote:If we assume FB makes the kill assuming skitter wouldn't be protected that doesn't explain why JOAT me doesn't roleblock skitts when I'm firmly in her PoE.
I already explained the JOAT must've used the RB shot on N1 already. I am not arguing YOU are the JOAT though. I am just saying skitter's shot going through = JOAT already used their RB like 80% of the time, because she was always going to shoot in FB/S_S anyway (which is -at least- a 50% chance she was hitting Scum, and after having lost lillith the JOAT could not afford losing their second goon on the same cycle)

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Post Post #3908 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:07 am

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In post 3907, Almost50 wrote:I already explained the JOAT must've used the RB shot on N1 already.
is this just because skitt's shot went through last night?
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Post Post #3909 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:21 am

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I see no need to full claim while everyone else is claiming VT and we know there are 3 PRs or 4 PRs plus an SK (where in the latter scenario the SK has holstered every night).

@blake knowing that bingle is strongly unlikely to be scum for mechanical reasons, who do you want to lynch/what happens to your lynchpool?
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Post Post #3910 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:22 am

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Datisi, seeing as how 5 votes are needed to lynch, can you put the second one on PP now?
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Post Post #3911 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:25 am

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In post 3896, Bingle wrote:He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.

If JK, it's even less conclusive because ambiguity of roleblock/protect, but the JOAT is more likely to perform the kill than a goon which makes it slightly clearing.
Bingle is correct.

@ofhrz, would a jailkeep stop a strongman?
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Post Post #3912 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:27 am

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i'm not sold on lynching PP (nor anyone else at the moment) so i don't see how my vote there would be useful
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Post Post #3913 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:27 am

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Given the missing kill N1, it seems more likely to me that if it’s been used, scum would have used ninja that night. And then with a missing kill that scum wouldn’t be sure of the reason for, they’d probably use the strongman on skitt in the case of a Doctor, right?
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Post Post #3914 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:28 am

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In post 3912, Datisi wrote:i'm not sold on lynching PP (nor anyone else at the moment) so i don't see how my vote there would be useful
There are 4 names, choose one

(A50, maria, PP, S_S)
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Post Post #3915 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:30 am

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In post 3913, Menalque wrote:Given the missing kill N1, it seems more likely to me that if it’s been used, scum would have used ninja that night. And then with a missing kill that scum wouldn’t be sure of the reason for, they’d probably use the strongman on skitt in the case of a Doctor, right?
that makes sense. i think either the roleblock or strongman would've gotten used night 2 (and skitt's kill fired, so.)
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Post Post #3916 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:30 am

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In post 3914, Menalque wrote:
In post 3912, Datisi wrote:i'm not sold on lynching PP (nor anyone else at the moment) so i don't see how my vote there would be useful
There are 4 names, choose one

(A50, maria, PP, S_S)
i'd really appreciate if you didn't try to rush me
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Post Post #3917 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:31 am

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I’d really appreciate it if everyone could stop making me want to ram my head through a wall, but we can’t always get what we want
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Post Post #3918 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:32 am

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i'm not mindlessly gonna push a pp lynch when i know i'm next on the chopping block
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Post Post #3919 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:33 am

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Then tell me how any of (A50, maria, S_S) make sense as scum
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Post Post #3920 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:34 am

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Like, in a town!you world datisi, that is the scumpool if it’s not PP and there are reasons to think all of those people are town
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Post Post #3921 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:35 am

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holy fuck

if there was -one person- that madr perfect sense as scum i'd already be voting them

pedit: yeah exactly.
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Post Post #3922 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:40 am

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For S_S to be scum, firebringer literally bussed all of D1 including at points where scum’s only PR was at risk of being lynched. He was then also unwilling to bus lilith D2 despite being the only PR scum has, and firebringer kept bussing him > bussing lilith.

A50 is actually scummy imo, but skitter thought he was town and she’s now confirmed town and it was like her most confident read. Plus while he was bickering with me earlier today he did give reasons to think that he’s town outside of that — like shifting back to lilith from Maria when a maria mislynch was probably still possible and he was already TR widely enough he didn’t need to.

Maria is still within her scumrange (Maria is always within her scum range yadda yadda) but is somewhat cleared by being the wagon that sprung up against lilith after S_S’s wagon dispersed.

From the PoV of you town, those are literally the only 3 people who can be scum in all reasonable worlds, and those are all good reasons to think they’re town. Why is PP town/might PP be town vs any of those 3?
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Post Post #3923 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:41 am

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In post 3921, Datisi wrote:if there was -one person- that madr perfect sense as scum i'd already be voting them
LITERALLY THERE IS AND YET I’M HAVING TO PUSH A BOULDER UP A HILL TO GET HIM LYNCHED FOR SOME REASON
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Post Post #3924 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:42 am

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In post 3922, Menalque wrote:but is somewhat cleared by being the wagon that sprung up against lilith after S_S’s wagon dispersed.
how is this clearing if the people counterwagoning were {a50, me, you, skitt, bingle} and we know none of those can be s/s with maria?
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